Formula 1 2009: The Launch Season

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I think those times are surprising, yet not revealing. The fact that the Mclaren is so far off the RBR, and the Ferrari as well, makes me even more sure that we haven't seen anything at all about anyone's pace untill the first round of the new season starts...

To be fair on McLaren (and BMW), they were using 2010 spec tyres, so I guess that explains why they were a fair way off. Also, it looks like McLaren are finally running the high downforce rear wing.

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It's good to see Timo Glock on top in both a dry and a wet session at Jerez, it's looking like the German is packing together a nice amount of experience with the TF109 👍

On that, I've read a lot more about Glock this winter than Trulli. If Glock outperformes Trulli this season (and I have a very strong feeling he will), what do you guys think Toyota will do with Trulli? Keep him or swap him with Kobayashi (or a something similar name to this one, can't remember it...)
 
On that, I've read a lot more about Glock this winter than Trulli. If Glock outperformes Trulli this season (and I have a very strong feeling he will), what do you guys think Toyota will do with Trulli? Keep him or swap him with Kobayashi (or a something similar name to this one, can't remember it...)

They won't demote or get rid of Trulli - he's a good reliable and consistent driver and I think its way too early to say whether he's been outperformed by Glock.
Toyota are one of the few teams where I believe there is an actual balance in driver skill and how they are treated by the team. Although Trulli is clearly the lead driver with experience, I don't think he gets special treatment over Glock and I doubt this would change if Glock started doing better.

I personally think Trulli will be staying with Toyota until he retires there is no reason to suggest otherwise.
 
Someone will probably sneak onto the track and leak some photos from their phone.
 
I tried to con the security for Force India's silverstone test. It wasn't happening.
 
Sorry, can you explain? I don't get it.

Well, first of all I recommend you borrow or buy his book whenever you can:
Flat Out, Flat Broke: Formula 1 the Hard Way by Perry McCarthy
as its a very humourous book, a good read and an interesting insight on the pains of trying to find sponsorship (and what lengths some people will go to just to get it!)

Anyway, without spoiling too much of the book, he used quite a funny trick to get into the Silverstone paddock when he didn't have a security pass (he was driving for Andrea Moda....and if you know what that team was about, you know what i mean when I say they weren't the most helpful team around). It involved pizza, Senna and some right cheek, :lol:
 
Finally, Renault realized they could at least make their front end aesthetically pleasing with careful paint application, or lack thereof.

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I think that Red Bull will probably be getting the most points of the Red Bull owned teams. I actually rather think that Toro Rosso's run of form that came completely out of the blue was a big fluke. Besides, Red Bull will have fixed all their teething problems on the new RB5, so that's why they'll be getting more than Toro Rosso.

Renault have been back on top of practice again recently...maybe they could stage a come back to the big chase for the constructors championship, but I still think Ferrari has got it.
 
Finally, Renault realized they could at least make their front end aesthetically pleasing with careful paint application, or lack thereof.

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I don't see any difference in paint job to the launch pictures. I do see that they've made the front wing's bit that goes straight underneath smaller and more slimline.

I think that Red Bull will probably be getting the most points of the Red Bull owned teams. I actually rather think that Toro Rosso's run of form that came completely out of the blue was a big fluke. Besides, Red Bull will have fixed all their teething problems on the new RB5, so that's why they'll be getting more than Toro Rosso.

Renault have been back on top of practice again recently...maybe they could stage a come back to the big chase for the constructors championship, but I still think Ferrari has got it.

Big fluke? I thought the consensus was that it was a combination of:
Renault engine being crappy (hence the tuning this year)
Toro Rosso (see: Minardi) being the more experienced team, and generally getting their setups and race decisions more correct, this paid off hugely in 2008 seeing how many wet races we had or other odd circumstances.
Having clearly better drivers, Bourdais was letting the side down a bit, but he did overall have more flashes of brilliance than Coulthard did.
Gerhard Berger is (was) a good team principal.

As for Renault today - its still testing, we can't make any predictions at the moment. Last year, we would have thought Williams were going to score lots of podiums and BMW Sauber none, but need I say that was not the case?
 
You do have to remember though, there are new rules, i.e. slick tires, new aerodynamics, driver adjustable bodywork etc.
 
^I still don't see what you're referring to.
Heres a launch pic:
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Please correct me, but other than the obviously different underside to the front wing, what is the difference?

You do have to remember though, there are new rules, i.e. slick tires, new aerodynamics, driver adjustable bodywork etc.

What do you mean in relation to? Renault doing well or STR not doing well?
I disagree with both anyway :P

Renault because they have shown before they can screw up, so can McLaren and Ferrari.
STR because they have the same car essentially as RB just with different drivers and the same team who might I add also experienced a previous huge change in regulations in 1998.

However, I did vote that Red Bull would do better than STR this year purely because of Vettel.
 
Big fluke? I thought the consensus was that it was a combination of:
Renault engine being crappy (hence the tuning this year)
Toro Rosso (see: Minardi) being the more experienced team, and generally getting their setups and race decisions more correct, this paid off hugely in 2008 seeing how many wet races we had or other odd circumstances.
Having clearly better drivers, Bourdais was letting the side down a bit, but he did overall have more flashes of brilliance than Coulthard did.
Gerhard Berger is (was) a good team principal.

From what the interviews (confirmed by the whole STR team), Bourdais was "the reason" the STR3 worked this well: His never-ending setup woes meant that the team tried as many possible solutions as possible, some of them quite radical - and through that extreme trial-and-error process, managed to understand the behavior of the car much better than perhaps any other team. At the same time, they used slightly-simpler versions of the RB4 - without, for example, the suspension on the RB4, which was more complicated and harder to perfect.

The ultimate reason for the Toro Rosso's victory at Monza, however, is very simple: Careful planning. While most teams opted to skip Friday testing in the wet, the STR crew tested as always. When others did limited running on Saturday, scrambling to get their wet setups right, the STRs had a strong base. That, combined with running a full wet setup (a gamble - it could've dried off on Sunday), and taking absolutely no chances during qualifying (or just lucking out with the right time-frames, weather-wise), allowed them to gain pole position. Come race-day, the other drivers were stuck in the spray, allowing Vettel to easily put some distance between him and the ill-setup Kovalainen.

^I still don't see what you're referring to.

Please correct me, but other than the obviously different underside to the front wing, what is the difference?

The underside of the nose at launch was just the beginning - they've since increased the length to span almost the whole nose. The "new" bit is that they've blacked out that part.

Another obvious difference is the wing itself. While the previous R29 endplates used to channel air above the wheels, they now channel it around - gaining them some 5cm or so of wing-surface, and perhaps extra downforce through endplate vortexes. The whole R29 is subtly updated at this test: The new sidepods "drape" slightly less, and are slightly tighter.
 
The underside of the nose at launch was just the beginning - they've since increased the length to span almost the whole nose. The "new" bit is that they've blacked out that part.

I remember it's legality being discussed before, so I presume there's nothing out of the rules with that running down the underside?
 
This looks like the fourth, maybe higher, iteration of that underside extension - shorter than the one that was speculated as illegal, but longer than the launch version. My take is it's legal. Not sure why any team this late in the game would put a device which seems to effect aero so appreciably if it's not there to stay in one form or another.
 
It was speculated as illegal, but proven to be legal after all - the illegality comments turned out to be a misinterpretation of the rules. There's not much change in that section lately - just new paint compared to the last tests - and Renault have been introducing incremental changes to the front wing since launch: Nothing radical.


I worry about McLaren, however. There's not much time left, yet they're still very slow when running without their 2008 rear wing. At the same time, they've been using the green flow-visualizer substance far more than usual, yet insist on testing 2010 tyres for Bridgestone, and recently tested a four-plane front wing. Reliability also hasn't been the best...
 
So who are the favorites as of now?
I think BMW are looking good, they started development far earlier than McLaren or Ferrari and they have their KERS system ready more or less. Toyota seem fast in practice, but we all know practice doesn't tell us much. Red Bull seem to have the best interpretation of the rules with regard to how their car looks, but without KERS in Melbourne I doubt they have the potential to win there.
I think Renault, if they have KERS ready, will do well in Melbourne, but my money is still on BMW.
 
So who are the favorites as of now?
I think BMW are looking good, they started development far earlier than McLaren or Ferrari and they have their KERS system ready more or less. Toyota seem fast in practice, but we all know practice doesn't tell us much. Red Bull seem to have the best interpretation of the rules with regard to how their car looks, but without KERS in Melbourne I doubt they have the potential to win there.
I think Renault, if they have KERS ready, will do well in Melbourne, but my money is still on BMW.

We are yet to see whether KERS is a race-winning part yet. I'm sure with time they will gradually make the units weigh less and less, but with seeing as its fairly new technology and it takes a considerable amount of weight, I can see why some teams are not bothering to use it for at least the first few races.

My thoughts on which teams that may be on top (though with consideration that this is only testing and some teams may be sandbagging and others may not be testing their fastest pace):
BMW Sauber look strong and consistent, a little like last year though last year they sandbagged their testing so this could actually mean they are looking very strong, but who knows?
Renault are looking good at least when Alonso is in the car but I'm wondering whether really seeing their pace or not. They seem to have a lot of reliability issues going on, or at least when I last read.
Ferrari and Toyota seem to be same old, though Toyota might be up to something more this year, can't tell though.

The rest of the teams are hard to read, Red Bull and Vettel taking some good times, Force India and Williams doing ok. McLaren looking a bit worrying. Can't really say where they stand. All I know is that BMW are definitely looking strong.
 
Hamilton crashed the McMerc yesterday and they finished early to fix the car. They most likely be on barcelona.
 
The RB5 ran a fantastically huge shark fin today btw...

(from Formula1.com for educational purposes)


(from Formula1.com for educational purposes)
 
It's exactly what was speculated to appear a year ago, after the first sharkfins emerged! We wondered if it is of any use to completely split the airflow - and it appears Red Bull is here to find out!

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