Forza Horizon 5: General Discussion

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Why do people in the game are so reluctant in trying out Horizon Arcade? I swear i lost count how many times there were a bunch of people near the starting area, only to be left alone and doomed to fail because it's designed to screw over anyone attempting to solo it or with 1 or 2 teammates not competent enough to complete it.
 
I had a laugh listening to voice chat during the Horizon Tour.

I don't have a mic plugged in so stayed muted and don't know how to turn it off but it was hilarious.

One guy and his buddy were on my team and they came 1st and 2nd and me 3rd in all 3 races, but they didn't know there were three races so after the first
"Yeah! We did it! Phew, cool, it should show the note soon"
then the 10 min timer and race to next event pops up and I hear
"WHAT!?! Come on!! No way!!!" and various exclamations of surprise and eventual resignation on the way to the next race.
After the second race "Yeah bro, I think we're finished, it's done, finally..." mwahahaa....
 
Why do people in the game are so reluctant in trying out Horizon Arcade? I swear i lost count how many times there were a bunch of people near the starting area, only to be left alone and doomed to fail because it's designed to screw over anyone attempting to solo it or with 1 or 2 teammates not competent enough to complete it.
I agree, it is a bit frustrating especially with the weekly challenge to complete. I wish they would announce the event like they did for Forzathon Live in FH4.
 
I agree, it is a bit frustrating especially with the weekly challenge to complete. I wish they would announce the event like they did for Forzathon Live in FH4.
Could have sworn I got announcements for it while playing. Although, the times it actually does seem spotty.
 
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Considering how Forza Horizon is set up, I actually think the solo portion of the game is far too long considering it's basically a glorified tutorial.


If you get bored after doing 1 race at each track/route racing games probably aren't for you.
If you think FH5's solo portion of the game is too long then maybe racing games aren't for you, because when you add up all the single player races (4 race types, about 15 races for each which take on average about 3 mins to complete) it works out to be about 3 hours of actual racing gameplay - that's not very much. Add another hour for the Goliath races and racing against trains and jet skis and you're only looking at 4 hours. I can't see how that's too long.

I bought the Premium version of FH5, played it at exactly midnight on the 5/11 and took a week off work purely to play it....I think I'll stick with racing games thanks very much.
 
If you think FH5's solo portion of the game is too long then maybe racing games aren't for you, because when you add up all the single player races (4 race types, about 15 races for each which take on average about 3 mins to complete) it works out to be about 3 hours of actual racing gameplay - that's not very much. Add another hour for the Goliath races and racing against trains and jet skis and you're only looking at 4 hours. I can't see how that's too long.

I bought the Premium version of FH5, played it at exactly midnight on the 5/11 and took a week off work purely to play it....I think I'll stick with racing games thanks very much.
I was more talking about the stuff like expeditions and showcases taking up too much time, not necessarily the number of races available. I would much rather spend my time doing actual races than a "race" against a train/plane/jetski/monster truck.

Also, you do know you can make circuit races longer right? Not to mention the fact you can make insanely long routes with the various creation tools. There's nothing saying you have to do the default 3 lap races.
 
If you think FH5's solo portion of the game is too long then maybe racing games aren't for you, because when you add up all the single player races (4 race types, about 15 races for each which take on average about 3 mins to complete) it works out to be about 3 hours of actual racing gameplay - that's not very much. Add another hour for the Goliath races and racing against trains and jet skis and you're only looking at 4 hours. I can't see how that's too long.

I bought the Premium version of FH5, played it at exactly midnight on the 5/11 and took a week off work purely to play it....I think I'll stick with racing games thanks very much.
Well considering racing games largely revolve around repeating a same process you've done a ton of times, it makes your original statement all the more odd. Your opening sentence doesn't even make much sense.

I set every single race that's not a sprint at 10-20 laps each. The single player content alone is going to last me a good while. literal days later and I still have a ton to do still - weird, since you're saying it's only 3 hours worth of racing. Always amazed that people absolutely rush in the fastest way possible and then get upset about it.
 
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Could have sworn I got announcements for it while playing. Although, the times it actually does seem spotty.
I misspoke, you're right there is an announcement. But it still sucks not having anyone to complete Horizon Arcade events alone.
 
I was more talking about the stuff like expeditions and showcases taking up too much time, not necessarily the number of races available. I would much rather spend my time doing actual races than a "race" against a train/plane/jetski/monster truck.

Also, you do know you can make circuit races longer right? Not to mention the fact you can make insanely long routes with the various creation tools. There's nothing saying you have to do the default 3 lap races.
Yeah I know about the creation tool - I tried it in FH4 and with limited success - trying to create a course of any complexity would cause the race not to work properly and the interface was too annoying to fix it. The game does provide an infinite amount of options to create your own content, I just don't have a lot of interest in doing so. If I've got 3 hours of an evening to play a game, I want to play, I don't want to create - that's the developers job to create content, not mine. I don't disparage people who enjoy doing it, it's not just for me.

The value my mates and I get out of FH has been doing the Goliath track over and over using different cars and playing with different upgrades - Eg, we choose a D class car and upgrade to A class and we see who wins. The Goliath track on FH3 was fantastic with two long straights and great variety of twists and turns in between. FH4's Goliath was disappointing, was a bit too samey all the way through and FH5's Goliath does look to have potential so we'll see.
Well considering racing games largely revolve around repeating a same process you've done a ton of times, it makes your original statement all the more odd. Your opening sentence doesn't even make much sense.

I set every single race that's not a sprint at 10-20 laps each. The single player content alone is going to last me a good while. literal days later and I still have a ton to do still - weird, since you're saying it's only 3 hours worth of racing. Always amazed that people absolutely rush in the fastest way possible and then get upset about it.
My opening sentence was in response to another post which should provide context.

I'm not upset about the content, it's been the same with the previous FH games, I was just responding to a post that said the single player content was too long - which it clearly isn't because I finished all the single player races a week ago.

Presumably you're doing more laps for more XP and cash - but I also assume you're getting to first place in the first 2-3 laps and then just touring around on your own for the next 15 laps? If you enjoy that then that's cool but that's not for me.
 
I managed to complete all the 5% Rivals challenges last night using one of the shortest Street Racing layouts, can't remember the name but it is located just north of the festival outpost:
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All six classes done on the first attempt except 'D' (because I first tried it in a stock Mini, a terrible idea). All I did was find which car that I owned in each class had the highest speed figure, then auto-upgrade the car to the max level in the class.

My runs were very cautious to make sure I had a clean run and will be lucky to be in the top 50% once more players try to complete these challenges. This is definitely a good time to be completing these accolades.
Thanks for that! I found a tune for the '94 Miata and got my top 5% time on that track!
 
Among some others, yeah. I doubt you'll see them flooding the auction house anytime soon though.

Well yeah, putting an easily obtained super wheelspin on one of the cheapest cars in the game was something of a head scratcher.

In other news, look what else is working now!

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Hooray!
If you think FH5's solo portion of the game is too long then maybe racing games aren't for you, because when you add up all the single player races (4 race types, about 15 races for each which take on average about 3 mins to complete) it works out to be about 3 hours of actual racing gameplay - that's not very much. Add another hour for the Goliath races and racing against trains and jet skis and you're only looking at 4 hours. I can't see how that's too long.
My brother and I have played the game for over a week and we still have stuff to do. Last time I checked the total driving time was 18 hours so the career mode isn't short at all.
 
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My opening sentence was in response to another post which should provide context.

I'm not upset about the content, it's been the same with the previous FH games, I was just responding to a post that said the single player content was too long - which it clearly isn't because I finished all the single player races a week ago.

Presumably you're doing more laps for more XP and cash - but I also assume you're getting to first place in the first 2-3 laps and then just touring around on your own for the next 15 laps? If you enjoy that then that's cool but that's not for me.
I know it was, and it still makes little sense. It was a quick quip and that’s all. The content of single player is long, otherwise I wouldn’t be racing for 3-4 hours a day for a handful of days a week since release.

I like how you made up a scenario for me and tried to use your own hypothetical as a counter point as if to make my point seem somehow lower in someway.
 
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Yeah I know about the creation tool - I tried it in FH4 and with limited success - trying to create a course of any complexity would cause the race not to work properly and the interface was too annoying to fix it. The game does provide an infinite amount of options to create your own content, I just don't have a lot of interest in doing so. If I've got 3 hours of an evening to play a game, I want to play, I don't want to create - that's the developers job to create content, not mine. I don't disparage people who enjoy doing it, it's not just for me.
Nobody's expecting you to create stuff. Just pick a race someone else has created. It's no more difficult than it is to select the prebuilt content. The point is that it potentially gives you a lot more stuff to play.
 
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Nobody's expecting you to create stuff. Just pick a race someone else has created. It's no more difficult than it is to select the prebuilt content. The point is that it potentially gives you a lot more stuff to play.
One reason I enjoy the Eliminator is that it's a different race each time. You can start anywhere on the map, you have no idea where the final arena is going to be, you don't know who you're racing against, and you don't know where the final checkpoint is going to be. It's endlessly entertaining.
 
I Still can't win the Weekly Forzathon featurng Modern Sports Cars. I've tried 7 times. The lead cars in the 1st race are just gone after the 1st lap. the best I can do was 7th. I can get closer in the next races, but I finish no better than 2nd in the championship. I've tried every car, and some tuned to dirt. This was one of the things I HATED in FH4 where there were some races that were just impossible to win. and on the other hand I won some races with no trouble at all. Arrrgggh!
Secondly, the daily challenge, to complete a clean lap in any Rivals event, it won't give it to me. I've done the Monthly Rivals, twice. and several other races on rivals. Nothing. I've already won the weekly cars, so it's just a completion thing. But anybody got any suggestions? Most of the other complaints some you have noted, haven't happened to me. So I guess this is just payback?
 
I really hope Arcades aren't working as intended right now, I miss the social aspect of chilling out in a car park waiting for a Forzathon Live to start. Now you're lucky if three other people show up.

Also, where have all the people who used to wait at either end of the motorway for impromptu casual races in FH4 gone? Maybe they're still there. FH5 feels quite antisocial at the moment, which is a shame.
 
I have a whole bunch of Accolades in the Stories that just aren't working.

The shortcut in the Monster Ghost won't trigger, despite the commentator calling out my use of the shortcut. Still, that's an easy one to just go and retry any time.

The worse ones are in El Camino. With a single exception - which is the one with two spelling errors in it ("Discovery the satue") - none of the Accolades for actually photographing the statues will ping. It doesn't seem to matter if it's quickshot, or a properly framed, saved, shared photo of the statue (or statues!), nothing happens on the Accolade front.
 
One reason I enjoy the Eliminator is that it's a different race each time. You can start anywhere on the map, you have no idea where the final arena is going to be, you don't know who you're racing against, and you don't know where the final checkpoint is going to be. It's endlessly entertaining.
It's also nice that the vehicles are random so the game isn't flooded with the exact same car.
Secondly, the daily challenge, to complete a clean lap in any Rivals event, it won't give it to me. I've done the Monthly Rivals, twice. and several other races on rivals. Nothing. I've already won the weekly cars, so it's just a completion thing. But anybody got any suggestions? Most of the other complaints some you have noted, haven't happened to me. So I guess this is just payback?
I've heard it triggers after doing one clean lap followed by a dirty one. I think they may be right as well since it didn't unlock for me until after I failed to post a clean time despite having done several clean times right before that session.

I wish I could help you with your first issue, but I've had the same luck with that championship despite winning the other seasonal ones fairly easily.
 
Is Forza Arcade doing weird stuff for other people?

I tried to complete one but got put with just one other guy and we failed round 1. That little "press windows button to stay with the group" thing got stuck on my screen at 20 and not counting down. Didn't think anything of it and have no clue if it's related.

Went to the next one. Only one other guy at the start, the first challenge was a speed trap that started nearly full, we both went through it once and it completed. Next was a speed zone, and right when it started it said we had like 516,000 mph already recorded, I passed through it once and it instantly continued.

Was thinking "finally! I might actually finish one of these" but started the final limit breaker thing and the other guy with me apparently doesnt get how they work, so even though we had nearly 8mins to complete it, we failed at like 80% done.

Now I went to the next one, and it counted down, then went straight to "Round 2 started!" but I'm alone and still failed it because I crashed and ruined my big skill combo. When it ended, it said "Round 3 failed!" and I got nothing.

These things are so irritating, it's just "repeat the thing over and over for 10mins" and I just want to get it done. The new mini missions one is stupid too and just randomly doesn't detect things. I've never had a photo detect, and the one for not moving for 10secs only seems to detect about half the time.
 
I Still can't win the Weekly Forzathon featurng Modern Sports Cars. I've tried 7 times. The lead cars in the 1st race are just gone after the 1st lap. the best I can do was 7th. I can get closer in the next races, but I finish no better than 2nd in the championship. I've tried every car, and some tuned to dirt. This was one of the things I HATED in FH4 where there were some races that were just impossible to win. and on the other hand I won some races with no trouble at all. Arrrgggh!
Secondly, the daily challenge, to complete a clean lap in any Rivals event, it won't give it to me. I've done the Monthly Rivals, twice. and several other races on rivals. Nothing. I've already won the weekly cars, so it's just a completion thing. But anybody got any suggestions? Most of the other complaints some you have noted, haven't happened to me. So I guess this is just payback?
I used the GR Supra 2020 for that race series. Yeah you're right it wasn't easy. I think I finished third on the first race and won that last two.
 
Well considering racing games largely revolve around repeating a same process you've done a ton of times, it makes your original statement all the more odd. Your opening sentence doesn't even make much sense.

I set every single race that's not a sprint at 10-20 laps each. The single player content alone is going to last me a good while. literal days later and I still have a ton to do still - weird, since you're saying it's only 3 hours worth of racing. Always amazed that people absolutely rush in the fastest way possible and then get upset about it.
I've played FH5 for 40 hours, and I've really only begun to scratch the racing content. The majority of my time has been spent driving around, unlocking things, exploring/completing the roadmap. The game won't stop throwing cars, credits, and checkboxes at me just for spending time in it.

Racing games are as you say, but to me, Forza Horizon is hardly limited to that. It's a driving game -- it's kind of in the name. Romanticizing the horizon does not necessarily call to mind lapping circuits in organized festival events. :)
 
Just got the "Win 10 Road Races with Unbeatable Drivatars" accolade and free Lexus RC-F... after completing the expedition to set up the Baja or Land Rush or whatever festival co-op in a friend's game.

...I've maybe won 3 or 4 Unbeatable road races before I remembered they aren't fun because the AI is cheaty as hell.

I'll take it though... but it's been a buggy night for me.

Edit: and now we are setting up his Street Scene festival and after the cutscene in Guanajuato it switches my transmission to automatic for the second leg of the expedition.
 
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Just got the "Win 10 Road Races with Unbeatable Drivatars" accolade and free Lexus RC-F... after completing the expedition to set up the Baja or Land Rush or whatever festival co-op in a friend's game.

...I've maybe won 3 or 4 Unbeatable road races before I remembered they aren't fun because the AI is cheaty as hell.

I'll take it though... but it's been a buggy night for me.

Edit: and now we are setting up his Street Scene festival and after the cutscene in Guanajuato it switches my transmission to automatic for the second leg of the expedition.
There's EventLab challenges that make the Unbeatable Accolades easier to earn. Can't remember them on the top of my head, but there's some on the Forza Discord.
 
I don’t know if it’s because of the Willy’s glitch, or one of the other money making deals, but there’s all kinds of deals in the auction house. I just got a 250 Testa Rossa for 1.9 million, and there’s a few others for buy out at the same price.

Edit: did they drop the buyout on some of these cars? I just got the California for around 2 million, and the #2 Ford GT40 for about 1.6. I guess the market is just over saturated from everyone doing the Willy’s, which is cool for me. I just bought 3 cars usually over 40 million credits combined, for about 6 million. And I still have a free car token.

Double edit: and a Porsche 917 for 2 million, Shelby Daytona for 1.7. The auction house is officially trashed.
 
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In the Wash For 20 Seconds Daily Challange, post a clean lap in any Rivals event. I think it doesn't count it if you choose "keep lapping". I always chose that, mainly because the first rival I get posted a dirty lap, so when it stops, I choose keep lapping to get improve and get my best time. Then when I quit, and it tallys up my points, it says New Rival, but it's the very same Rival I just bested.

Also I see the Forzathon Shop is open, Argh, 533 points, I need 600 for the Apollo!
 
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