Forza vs GT - budget
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PD but most of it went on promotional drinks coasters
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Probably GT, how else can you take a long hiatus making a game with the most recent cars being from 2017? I went to McLaren and their newest cars are a 650S. Here we are 2022, 765LT Spider is now out.
Not only that, but the total of cars also went down despite that last GT being made in 2013 and GTS coming out in 2017. Like they couldnt update all of the manufacturers since then?
Not only that, but the total of cars also went down despite that last GT being made in 2013 and GTS coming out in 2017. Like they couldnt update all of the manufacturers since then?
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Tough call. I believe GT is more well known and sells more overall but If I am remembering correctly Forza 7 had more licenses for cars and real world tracks and Horizon 5 has more newer cars. Granted Forza may still have a lower budget and no doubt spreads the costs between Motorsport and Horizon.
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I bet the maestro doesn’t come cheap
Gran Turismo 5 sporting $60 million budget
Polyphony Digital head Kazunori Yamauchi reveals next year's sprawling racing simulator cost nearly three times as much as Killzone 2.
They have a different approach. PD maintain a permanent 200+ staff all the time and develop almost exclusively in house. T10 on the other hand only have a small amount of permanent staff and then go on a huge, but temporary spree with outsourcing in the last couple of years of development, up to 400 or 500 total for a few weeks.
Licenses are not necessarily expensive. Project CARS 2 has far more licensed tracks than any GT game and the overall budget for that game was tiny.
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I'm not aware of any recent iteration of Forza apart from Horizon - which I excluded? There's been a 'Motorsport' title in development for years now which is the one I was referring to.How much totally new content was in the recent iteration of Forza? afaik they re-used >15yo models for some cars
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I don't have pics either, but there are re-used but decently upscaled models that have maintained inaccuracies since FM1 from 2005. If you don't know how the car should look or don't look too closely you might not notice they're wrong, but those who know and care to look can see it.
The easiest way to spot a likely outdated car is to check if you can open anything other than the doors in Forzavista. It's not a guarantee, but if you can't open the hood/trunk (and haven't done an engine swap or body mods), and the car is 10+ years old now, it's probably from the Xbox 360 or older. Beyond that, FM3/4 models often have lower detailed interiors, because while FM3 introduced a cockpit camera you couldn't really look around so detail was cut where you wouldn't be looking. Some of that lack of detail still exists today.
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Turn 10 has 170 employees on linkedin, playground games 338 employees on linkedin. Turn 10 is repsonsible for fm series, engine and physics creation, playground is responsible for fh. Pd is around 300. My guess combining turn10 and playground and we for sure get more budget for a forza horizon series (as they re-use engine, some car models and physics). Budget for fm could be similar or even lower than gran turismo.
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Forza has endless money from Microsoft. Also technically Forza has 2 studios working on it (Turn 10 and Playground) and ironically the synergy between them is not as good as it could've been.
Worth mentioning that Turn 10 heavily outsources stuff, which, along with the budget, is why the game has lots and lots of cars, but their quality is often inconsistent. In Forza you have laser scanned stuff and also hand modeled stuff from the FM2 days, which I don't expect to change because it's just not economical for them to do so.
Worth mentioning that Turn 10 heavily outsources stuff, which, along with the budget, is why the game has lots and lots of cars, but their quality is often inconsistent. In Forza you have laser scanned stuff and also hand modeled stuff from the FM2 days, which I don't expect to change because it's just not economical for them to do so.
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The GT7 is basically the same as GT Sport. Not to say I'm lying, it's GT Sport with eighty more cars and four new circuits, plus a rearrangement of the single player game, something that doesn't require a budget, just intellectual work.
I wonder: Considering that GT Sport was released in 2017, was GT7's budget just to revamp GT Sport?
Of course, there's a lot of content to reveal in the coming months, via DLCs. But it's curious after five years to re-release a game basically the same as GT Sport. Maybe it's bad budget management!? I dont know.
Anyway, an example from today about the Forza budget:
I wonder: Considering that GT Sport was released in 2017, was GT7's budget just to revamp GT Sport?
Of course, there's a lot of content to reveal in the coming months, via DLCs. But it's curious after five years to re-release a game basically the same as GT Sport. Maybe it's bad budget management!? I dont know.
Anyway, an example from today about the Forza budget:
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imo gt7 has more differences vs gt sport (very different physics, dynamic time, dynamic weather, proper campaign and tuning) than fh5 vs fh4 (different map and better graphics)
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working lobbies in GT sport is a difference, they are very similar games but all the GT games are just evolutions so how different was it ever going to be? the fact that the sport mode is missing a bunch of the lobby features and chat options from the previous instalment at launch is puzzling as this is fully developed QoL stuff just copy and paste it in zero budget needed to think up the idea
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As does Gran Turismo.
How much better is the synergy supposed to be? Both games are running the same engine with Horizon getting understandable tweaks to make it more arcade, & they share the same car models/development for the most part. There's not much else for them to share.
Gran Turismo started doing that, too. @Famine wrote an article on it.
Gran Turismo Car Models Now Made in Three Months, Outsourced to India
Back in August 2018, we brought you some rather interesting information on the inner workings of the Gran Turismo series: after two decades of almost exclusive in-house development, Polyphony Digital had decided to bring in some external talent by outsourcing some of its vehicle modeling tasks. W
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As noted in the article, there is an individual within' the outsourcing efforts who has touched many of Forza's games.
GT isn't exactly innocent from inconsistencies. They did well to drop them, but folks do remember the days of Premium & Standard car models.
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