Front Splitters And Front Downforce

[Crispy]

So today I decided to buy an online weapon. The Honda NSX Type-R. Seeing this beast on the 550pp limit online shows the full potential for this car as a true beast. Currently I have it at 543pp, tuned it and everything. But the front end still likes to slip out sometimes, causing the scariest thing know to man. Understeer.

Now there are many ways to correct this dreaded monster, yet try as I might, I can't get it to work. Then I remember, one way to keep a car planted to the ground, downforce. I have a good rear downforce setup, which may just contribute to the front slipping, but its also there to keep the rear planted. So I went to GTAuto to see if they had any front splitters to add downforce. Turns out, they do! 3,000 Cr later and a carbon fiber pizza cutter attached to the front and my heart set on pushing the front down so hard that its pushed on the ground I find out, the front downforce can't be adjusted!

I remember back on the early days of GT5 that you could adjust front downforce with pizza cutters, such as the ones attached to the front of my Honda! So is it only possible to adjust the front downforce for some cars, (which I assume is the case) or are all cars forced to wear deadly knifes on the front, that could injure harmless spectators, without adjustable downforce to make those spectator lives worth it?

 

[MitchZ06]

Can you give me an example where a splitter has killed or injured a spectator please? Interested to know about this danger I've never heard of, really didn't know a piece of carbon 3-5mm think at its thinnest edge was a knife...

 

[Crispy]

Can you give me an example where a splitter has killed or injured a spectator please? Interested to know about this danger I've never heard of, really didn't know a piece of carbon 3-5mm think at its thinnest edge was a knife...

Nah it was just a joke. I agree though, no way a splitter could kill.

 

[nomis3613]

Mmmm...pizza with human toppings...

Yeah, most of the time only rear downforce is adjustable (unlike GT4s magic rear wing...) I can't remember what causes front to be adjustable or not, hopefully someone better informed will reply!

 

[XDesperado67]

Blunt force trauma is the technical term for getting killed by a splitter Same as getting hit by a sledgehammer.

For the majority of cars in GT5 front aero, rear aero and splitters seemingly have no effect on downforce. A few where these parts are available have a very low set value that can't be adjusted. Think I have only found one car that you could add a front splitter to that gave you an adjustable front downforce and its value only ranged from 5-10. Can't remember which car it was now though.

 

[MitchZ06]

McLaren F1 '94 gets 20 downforces (why can't we have it in kg or lb PD....) when you add the front splitter, most I've seen so far.

 

[Rotary Junkie]

McLaren F1 '94 gets 20 downforces (why can't we have it in kg or lb PD....) when you add the front splitter, most I've seen so far.

It's there whether you have the splitter or not.

 

[dr_slump]

McLaren F1 '94 gets 20 downforces (why can't we have it in kg or lb PD....) ...

Because it wouldn't make sense......

 

[Vin1021]

I don't understand why they did'nt allow us to put a front splitter on every car in the game. It's not like it's that difficult to install one in real-life. I just fabricated an aluminum Pro-Outlaw style rear wing for my drag car, and I've fabricated front splitters for other road race vehicles that I've owned in the past. It's not really that much of a difficult task. I mean I remember in GT2 or GT1 (Can't remember off the top of my head) we had the option of doing a full race mod to the cars. Thinking back I don't remember if performance was enhanced or if it was just a cosmetic upgrade but if I remember correctly they did a paintjob,decals,a wing and thats all I remember. Anyone else remember this?

 

[MitchZ06]

Because it wouldn't make sense......

It'd make more sense than just a number because real downforce is measured in among other things the 'weight' it generates.

 

[nomis3613]

I don't understand why they did'nt allow us to put a front splitter on every car in the game. It's not like it's that difficult to install one in real-life.

My similar pet hate is that if you want any form of gearing adjustability, you have to put up with the mind-numbing whine of straight cut gears. Whereas IRL you'd just drop a different ratio diff in it without even touching the gearbox.

I wish GT5 would let us change the Final Drive ratio (even if you're limited to a couple of presets) for say $3k to allow gearing changes sans banshee. Sorry, I digress!!

 

[HaylRayzor]

You can add both splitters and extensions to most cars and you get nothing. Not even a token 5 downforce in front.

 

[m8h3r]

Nah it was just a joke. I agree though, no way a splitter could kill.

Unless it hits you at say 150mph with a car attached that may hurt a little.

 

[CSLACR]

I think the short answer to this thread is "GT tuning is 10 years out of date".
It only takes a glance to realize this, I think we all know it, and cars like the ACR, where you can't even BUY parts to work like factory just make it that much more obvious.