Fuji 1000km; How long does it take?
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A spec or B spec?
Just had a look at a race report, and it seems as tho it would be just under 5 hours, done in A-spec mode.
https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/showthread.php?t=114819
But this race report was done with a BMW/McLaren GTR, which is probably slower than your Pescarolo. The Pesky should get it done in just over 4 hours.
Just had a look at a race report, and it seems as tho it would be just under 5 hours, done in A-spec mode.
https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/showthread.php?t=114819
But this race report was done with a BMW/McLaren GTR, which is probably slower than your Pescarolo. The Pesky should get it done in just over 4 hours.
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Reading Smallhorses' A-Spec Endurance Companion in the GT4 Race Reports section, found more specifically in the GTP Race Report Reference Thread reveals it to be more or less five hours - proven on several takes.
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The Pesky is overkill here, as I found out:
Post from Smallhorses A-spec Endurance companion
Selected the hardest AI lineup I could lay my hands on, and still finished 17 laps ahead of the Sauber C9. Not my kind of race at all 👎, prefer things much closer than that!
Finishing time was 4 hours and 50 minutes.
Post from Smallhorses A-spec Endurance companion
Selected the hardest AI lineup I could lay my hands on, and still finished 17 laps ahead of the Sauber C9. Not my kind of race at all 👎, prefer things much closer than that!
Finishing time was 4 hours and 50 minutes.
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Well, look, it depends on your level of skill.
If you drive a Pesky for instance, or the 787B, and you're having problems keeping a lead, then it's not truely overkill, it's simply the fact that you need more practice. You'd be relying on the car's power & prowess, but not to the extent that you're getting an easy win.
Now on the other hand, if you do the race and find yourself a half a lap (or thereabouts) ahead of the 2nd place car and the 1st pitstop hasn't even been made yet, now THAT'S overkill!
That's where i would start over (personally) with a weaker machine or less power. Now if you choose to overkill, that's your call. But don't show up here writing a race report about it claiming to be a great driver or whatever!
Somebody did that just a few weeks ago, he got trashed! 
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Haha okay then, well I see myself as a pretty good driver.
So do you have any suggestions?
And no, I won't use the BMW Mclaren because I hate that car more then anything that ever existed in the holy universe. Really.
I'm gonna try to write a race report, so I don't want to be considered an overkiller!
Greets,
Maas
EDIT: I just noticed an unused Ford GT Spec 2 Racecar, overkill?
So do you have any suggestions?
And no, I won't use the BMW Mclaren because I hate that car more then anything that ever existed in the holy universe. Really.
I'm gonna try to write a race report, so I don't want to be considered an overkiller!
Greets,
Maas
EDIT: I just noticed an unused Ford GT Spec 2 Racecar, overkill?
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Using the Ford GT LM Spec II would make it an extremely hard race to win, even for the best GT4 drivers, because it wears out tires quickly, has relatively low downforce, and has a fairly unimpressive power-to-weight ratio. Unless you have trouble driving the LMP cars like the Audi or Pescarolos, you should have an easy win. If you want a race that is neither extremely difficult nor extremely easy, I'd recommend the Mercedes CLK-GTR. It's a pretty fun car to drive in my opinion, and has a good power-to-weight ratio; the only thing holding it back is downforce, but it's not too big a hindrance.
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Well the hardest lineup I could find on my version of PAL was this as follows in no particular order....
Nissan R89C
Nissan R92CP
Sauber Mercedes C9
Mazda 787B
Toyota GT-One
Well if you want 200 A-Spec points up this lineup then either the Black Toyota GT-One or the Black Mazda 787B with R1's on front and back will do fine without using any oil changes and will win by around a so-so margin and it is stock with no modifications what so ever.
If you want to do the race then it will take around 4 hours 50 minutes to about 5 hours 6 minutes depending on the car you use and the amount of time on track.
The Sauber Mercedes C9 and Nissan R92CP will take at least 5 hours 7 minutes or so to finish the Fuji 1000km so you will need a car that can at least finish ahead of those two.
Other cars like the BMW McLaren F1, AMG Mercedes CLK-GTR and Pagani Zonda LM are good other challenges, whilst not have the best tyre wear around and have lower downforce than the LMP's or Group C's, will provide a challenge up against the strongest line-up I have mentioned.
Try not to use the C9, R89C, R92CP, XJR-9 cars as they are overkill and the LMP's with the exception of the black Toyota GT-One will not provide a good race and technically counts as overkill.
Of course if you are struggling with a high powered LMP or Group C car up against the field, then you will need some practice with the cars till you can get the hang of it. Of course remember the chassis on the cars then to go off after around 320-350 miles into the race so handling the car will be a little difficult.
Well anyway good luck in your adventure....
Nissan R89C
Nissan R92CP
Sauber Mercedes C9
Mazda 787B
Toyota GT-One
Well if you want 200 A-Spec points up this lineup then either the Black Toyota GT-One or the Black Mazda 787B with R1's on front and back will do fine without using any oil changes and will win by around a so-so margin and it is stock with no modifications what so ever.
If you want to do the race then it will take around 4 hours 50 minutes to about 5 hours 6 minutes depending on the car you use and the amount of time on track.
The Sauber Mercedes C9 and Nissan R92CP will take at least 5 hours 7 minutes or so to finish the Fuji 1000km so you will need a car that can at least finish ahead of those two.
Other cars like the BMW McLaren F1, AMG Mercedes CLK-GTR and Pagani Zonda LM are good other challenges, whilst not have the best tyre wear around and have lower downforce than the LMP's or Group C's, will provide a challenge up against the strongest line-up I have mentioned.
Try not to use the C9, R89C, R92CP, XJR-9 cars as they are overkill and the LMP's with the exception of the black Toyota GT-One will not provide a good race and technically counts as overkill.
Of course if you are struggling with a high powered LMP or Group C car up against the field, then you will need some practice with the cars till you can get the hang of it. Of course remember the chassis on the cars then to go off after around 320-350 miles into the race so handling the car will be a little difficult.
Well anyway good luck in your adventure....
Nice timing.
I just directed this race yesterday using Bob.
I used the black beauty Nissan 390 with Turbo upgrade. I didn't want to use the Toyota, Pescarolo, R8, Speed 8, or any of the fastest race cars b/c I thought it would not be very close with the Turbo advantage. My competition was Nissan 1989, Audi R8, Pescarolo 2004, Corvette C5R and another 390 in baby blue.
Things started out well with an oil change just 50 miles ago. I ran the car in Speed 4, Overtake, and 3x viewing speed. I set the transmission to 15 I think with no tricks. ... ran out of RPMs about 75% down the back stretch and bounced from about 232 to about 220 at that point and back on up.
I used SuperHard rears and Hard fronts until lap 224 when I switched to Hard/Medium for the last seven laps.
Bob pitted my car at lap 17, while my main competitor, the 89 Nissan, pitted on 14 I think. Good sign I thought.
I was running 1:18 and 1:19 laps except for the first lap out and sometime the last lap before pitting. The Nissan was matching me, or else about a quarter second slower per lap.
I left with the family for church and came back at about lap 160. The Nissan 89 was now in the lead, and my Black Beauty, having lost its oil change power, was running mid 120.1 to 120.8. The loss in oil cost me about 2 seconds per lap speed.
What to do... what to do??
I switched to speed 5 'overtake' on the Bob speedmeter. That caused my car to pretty much match the Nissan 89's laps, but I was 55 seconds behind, but I had one pit stop less to go than he did. so call that a 20-25 second disadvantage, and with matching laps, I didn't think I could win.
Then I realize Bob would lose about a second on the turn at the end of the straight, and again another second on the esses just before the back straight. bob would lose the rear outside wheel onto the soft stuff which slowed him down. So the last 20 laps or so to go out of 228, I switched the Bob speedmeter to 4 manually at the end of the stretch, and going into the esses. This saved on average over a second each lap from clumsy Bob.
The last thing I did, and this might have been a mistake, is calculate my pitstops from 160 to 228. I somehow ended up calculating I'd need to pit at 226 with red hots, so decided to take over pit strategy from Bob, add one pit stop, pit after 16 laps instead of 17, and upgrade to Hard/Medium tires for laps 222 - 228.
During one two lap period, I accidentally had Bob driving speed 5 "push" instead of overtake. It cost me about 8 seconds pushing the C5R though the back half of the course. This was about lap 215, and I thought that it was all over. Over 20 seconds down, with Nissan 89 and me both with one pit left, and matching lap times. But, I noticed my speed changing from 5 to 4 at the two spots I mentioned had me gaining almost a second vs. the Nissan 89 each lap...
Finally, lap 221, I'm upgraded into Hard/Medium tires. By lap 223, I'm turning 116.8 second laps, gaining almost two seconds on the Nissan who is still running about 118.5 just like the entire race.
Lap 228, I'm trailing him by 3 seconds at the end of the back stretch. I'm still a second behind out of the esses. But Bob doesn't let me down... he catches the Nissan 89 about 100 yards before the finish line and I win first place by 0.8 seconds, and grab my prize Nissan 92C and jump in for a ride.
I just directed this race yesterday using Bob.
I used the black beauty Nissan 390 with Turbo upgrade. I didn't want to use the Toyota, Pescarolo, R8, Speed 8, or any of the fastest race cars b/c I thought it would not be very close with the Turbo advantage. My competition was Nissan 1989, Audi R8, Pescarolo 2004, Corvette C5R and another 390 in baby blue.
Things started out well with an oil change just 50 miles ago. I ran the car in Speed 4, Overtake, and 3x viewing speed. I set the transmission to 15 I think with no tricks. ... ran out of RPMs about 75% down the back stretch and bounced from about 232 to about 220 at that point and back on up.
I used SuperHard rears and Hard fronts until lap 224 when I switched to Hard/Medium for the last seven laps.
Bob pitted my car at lap 17, while my main competitor, the 89 Nissan, pitted on 14 I think. Good sign I thought.
I was running 1:18 and 1:19 laps except for the first lap out and sometime the last lap before pitting. The Nissan was matching me, or else about a quarter second slower per lap.
I left with the family for church and came back at about lap 160. The Nissan 89 was now in the lead, and my Black Beauty, having lost its oil change power, was running mid 120.1 to 120.8. The loss in oil cost me about 2 seconds per lap speed.
What to do... what to do??
I switched to speed 5 'overtake' on the Bob speedmeter. That caused my car to pretty much match the Nissan 89's laps, but I was 55 seconds behind, but I had one pit stop less to go than he did. so call that a 20-25 second disadvantage, and with matching laps, I didn't think I could win.
Then I realize Bob would lose about a second on the turn at the end of the straight, and again another second on the esses just before the back straight. bob would lose the rear outside wheel onto the soft stuff which slowed him down. So the last 20 laps or so to go out of 228, I switched the Bob speedmeter to 4 manually at the end of the stretch, and going into the esses. This saved on average over a second each lap from clumsy Bob.
The last thing I did, and this might have been a mistake, is calculate my pitstops from 160 to 228. I somehow ended up calculating I'd need to pit at 226 with red hots, so decided to take over pit strategy from Bob, add one pit stop, pit after 16 laps instead of 17, and upgrade to Hard/Medium tires for laps 222 - 228.
During one two lap period, I accidentally had Bob driving speed 5 "push" instead of overtake. It cost me about 8 seconds pushing the C5R though the back half of the course. This was about lap 215, and I thought that it was all over. Over 20 seconds down, with Nissan 89 and me both with one pit left, and matching lap times. But, I noticed my speed changing from 5 to 4 at the two spots I mentioned had me gaining almost a second vs. the Nissan 89 each lap...
Finally, lap 221, I'm upgraded into Hard/Medium tires. By lap 223, I'm turning 116.8 second laps, gaining almost two seconds on the Nissan who is still running about 118.5 just like the entire race.
Lap 228, I'm trailing him by 3 seconds at the end of the back stretch. I'm still a second behind out of the esses. But Bob doesn't let me down... he catches the Nissan 89 about 100 yards before the finish line and I win first place by 0.8 seconds, and grab my prize Nissan 92C and jump in for a ride.
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I ran the race with a Toyota MINOLTA 88C-V with a stage 4 turbo and hard racing tires. My AI was quite easy, that R92CP was a pain in the neck. I was still able to beat it in about 4 hours.
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I won the race with 6 laps i think, using the Black version of the Nissan. Not the R89 or the R92, but the other 'smaller' one, which for some reason i can't recall the name now 
Anyways, i ran the car without an oil change, no refreshment, just less wing at the rear and front, and longer 6th gear ratio for high top speed when i'm in the slipstream.
Notable opponents that gave me a good fight was the Sauber and the Nissan R92. The good thing about using this car was the tyre wear was less compared to the Group C beasts, so the race can be won using the right strategy, not speed.
Anyways, i ran the car without an oil change, no refreshment, just less wing at the rear and front, and longer 6th gear ratio for high top speed when i'm in the slipstream.
Notable opponents that gave me a good fight was the Sauber and the Nissan R92. The good thing about using this car was the tyre wear was less compared to the Group C beasts, so the race can be won using the right strategy, not speed.
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