G25 180's and Settings

[Pcaola]

I broke the G-25 out of retirement because I found a nice size desk to set the rig up on in my garage with a 23" monitor. It's been a fun but challenging few days to say the least. Using my usually settings - only ABS 1 and sometimes TC 1 it's been a lot of facing the wrong way on the tracks
First. I switched ASM on... Very safe but very boring. No good.
Second I switched on steering assist (Mild) . MUCH better. I found myself getting close to my usual times even though It feels like I am driving slower and more cautious. I can't seem to drift the corners I am used to with my DS3 yet my times actually got a little better.
Third : in GAME options Wheel Settings ( not under race settings ) I turned on Power Assist steering ( helps aid when counter steering to prevent spinning out). Even better now with the wheel.

After starting the game with lots of assists on I have learned to drive without them. Faster, more fun, and as many say, more pure. What do others use as setting when on a wheel? To get the most out of a car without giving in to un needed aids?

Also, it's always been pretty darn easy to recover from grass, a drift or an oversteer out of a turn with the DS3. With the wheel.... Not so easy LOL. I rarely find myself turning the wheel farther than 180-210 degrees in either direction, yet it seems to have about 500 degrees to full turn? Am I really supposed to turn into a full counter steer and then back to strait to save a skid? Or is it just not gonna happen with a wheel?

Thanks for any input guys....
Paul

I think I spend as much time on these forums as I do driving some days

 

[Not_A_Guest]

Oh it seems like this happens with all wheels. I bought a DFGT a while back, experienced exactly the same problems you did. It seems that driving with the DS3 just is a whole lot more forgiving because you can instantly and effortlessly snap the wheel and adjust your turning without any resistance. But I always use the no assist setup. I only set my ABS to 3 because if you don't have your ABS above 1 in GT, you're going to fly into a lot of barriers.

 

[bs13]

Check this out . https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/showthread.php?t=286646

 

[byegad]

Oh it seems like this happens with all wheels. I bought a DFGT a while back, experienced exactly the same problems you did. It seems that driving with the DS3 just is a whole lot more forgiving because you can instantly and effortlessly snap the wheel and adjust your turning without any resistance. But I always use the no assist setup. I only set my ABS to 3 because if you don't have your ABS above 1 in GT, you're going to fly into a lot of barriers.

Totally agree, but the wheel adds sensitivity and the feedback makes you drive more like a real racing car. Having done a track day or two in the dim and distant past I would much rather drive GT5 with my DFGT than a DS3.

 

[Pcaola]

Check this out . https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/showthread.php?t=286646

Thanks BS13. WOW, exactly what I had looked into but couldn't find! Definitely going to read more and give this a shot

Paul

Update - 1 hour later. OMG!! What a difference and more importantly so much fun! I tried a FR car and was struggling a bit so figured I would try one of my lighter AWDs. Dusted off an old favorite, my Audi S3 and too it to Cote D Azure' . I haven't tested any times but it feels great. I left the track with a custom graffiti pattern of black streaks and white poofs of smoke in almost every corner. The car handled the tight turns nod hairpins very well for a car that's never made it to be a top seasonal contender for me.

So far. The S 450 degree settings seem to feel the best. Had to dial down force feedback a bit but I'm giddy that I can drift/corner some of my favorite spots on my usual tracks.

Thanks again BS13

 

[bs13]

You're most welcome Pcaola . It's a shame we didn't know about that little trick 3 years ago. It is truly is a game changer!

 

[Johnnypenso]

IMO the trick to getting the most out of a wheel is to forget everything you know about driving with a DS3. Things you can do or have to do with a DS3 to get around a road circuit quickly you don't want to do with a wheel. Drifting for example and correcting huge slides looks great on the replay but it's not the fastest way around. What you want to do is learn to drive with the wheel so the slide doesn't occur to begin with. Smooth inputs, finding the traction and braking limits and not exceeding them, tuning your car for optimum balance etc. If you try to do what you did with a DS3, with a wheel, you'll never be as fast as you possibly can be.

In short, you must learn to drive just like you would a real car on a circuit, not like a wildman, correcting huge slides with massive countersteer.

 

[Pcaola]

IMO the trick to getting the most out of a wheel is to forget everything you know about driving with a DS3. Things you can do or have to do with a DS3 to get around a road circuit quickly you don't want to do with a wheel. Drifting for example and correcting huge slides looks great on the replay but it's not the fastest way around. What you want to do is learn to drive with the wheel so the slide doesn't occur to begin with. Smooth inputs, finding the traction and braking limits and not exceeding them, tuning your car for optimum balance etc. If you try to do what you did with a DS3, with a wheel, you'll never be as fast as you possibly can be.

In short, you must learn to drive just like you would a real car on a circuit, not like a wildman, correcting huge slides with massive countersteer.

This is spot on! Initially in reading, i was under the impression it was "best" to drive the car while maintaining as close to 100% traction. With the Ds3 I was never able to get my runs to mimic the AI rabbits even though I eventually found my own grove and started beating them at "my own game".
Playing with the wheel I have found it much easier, and more natural feeling to drive smoother, more gracefully, less dramatic. Even though it felt slower it wasn't. ( and I agree, it's ashame the play back isn't as entertaining lol )
It's still fun though ! Especially when I'm running 400-500 pp in manual with clutch and H pattern.