G27 PS4 , has anyone tried yet?PS4

[SGETI]

Now that the game is out, has anyone even tried to see if the G27 will work with Ps4?

A quick answer will do. Before you jump down my throat saying all along the G27 would not be supported, some other wheels have not been supported on game titles and they do in fact work.

Hoping for some good news.

 

[the_D_]

At this point, I'd say don't get your hopes up :-/

 

[Johnnypenso]

I also doubt it, but how funny would it be if someone plugged in their G27, brought up one of the Fanatec profile, and the wheel worked in the game?!

 

[the_D_]

I also doubt it, but how funny would it be if someone plugged in their G27, brought up one of the Fanatec profile, and the wheel worked in the game?!

I never even thought of that, it's certainly worth a try.

 

[SGETI]

I also doubt it, but how funny would it be if someone plugged in their G27, brought up one of the Fanatec profile, and the wheel worked in the game?!

That is what i am hoping for!

 

[Flaco13]

Wheel calibrates as you plug it in the PS4, and that's all it does.

 

[SGETI]

Wheel calibrates as you plug it in the PS4, and that's all it does.

Thank you for trying. Not the answer I wanted but now we all know.

 

[CyberOcelot]

Logitech no longer manufacturers racing wheels and therefore, no longer supports their racing wheels either.

I own a G27 and was hoping for some support as well. I was also part of a change.org petition with over 10,000 signatures that did nothing.

According to both sides (Logitech and Sony) some kind of authenticating chip is required for peripherals to work on the console. I believe Fanatec got its support through a software update (not sure. That's what I heard.)

Unfortunately, the G27 is simply not going to be supported on PS4. I got Project Cars on PC solely because of a lack of support on PS4.

 

[Kjelliken]

That sucks big time...
How do they expect us to be loyal to them if they cant be loyal to us..

I Guess I already have the PS4 but really.. now i need to buy a New steering Wheel as well... YAY for Sony and Logitech..

 

[sk8er913]

That sucks big time...
How do they expect us to be loyal to them if they cant be loyal to us..

I Guess I already have the PS4 but really.. now i need to buy a New steering Wheel as well... YAY for Sony and Logitech..

I hope GT7 will support it.

 

[sik180sx]

Sony is not to blame logitech is,sony have already stated it's up to the third party to make drivers,if logitech don't wanna play the game it's not on sony's back.

 

[CyberOcelot]

Sony is not to blame logitech is,sony have already stated it's up to the third party to make drivers,if logitech don't wanna play the game it's not on sony's back.

Logitech has already addressed why G27 will not work on PS4 in 2014. It's not just a matter of updating a driver. Sony has moved to requiring an actual physical chip in peripherals for authentication / proof of license. Here's the issue third party peripheral manufacturers face with the PS4 as explained by Eurogamer's breakdown...

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2014-11-05-whats-the-deal-with-ps4-and-xbox-one-steering-wheels


This is, of course, not to paint Sony or Microsoft in a negative light. Due to some issues with consumers being cheated in the peripheral market with faulty cheap controllers made to look OEM, both console manufacturers have apparently done this to protect their install base.

Hope this helps clarify.

 

[DarthMosco]

Logitech has already addressed why G27 will not work on PS4 in 2014. It's not just a matter of updating a driver. Sony has moved to requiring an actual physical chip in peripherals for authentication / proof of license. Here's the issue third party peripheral manufacturers face with the PS4 as explained by Eurogamer's breakdown...

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2014-11-05-whats-the-deal-with-ps4-and-xbox-one-steering-wheels


This is, of course, not to paint Sony or Microsoft in a negative light. Due to some issues with consumers being cheated in the peripheral market with faulty cheap controllers made to look OEM, both console manufacturers have apparently done this to protect their install base.

Hope this helps clarify.

it isn't true, T100,T500RS and all Fanatec wheels don't have the chip and they work in the game.
the chip is only for the complete compatibility with ps4 menu/share function

 

[CyberOcelot]

it isn't true, T100,T500RS and all Fanatec wheels don't have the chip and they work in the game.
the chip is only for the complete compatibility with ps4 menu/share function

There's been no mention of the chip being solely for the UI. I'll do more digging, but I'm not inclined to call several official sources liars before learning more about how the authentication chip requirements were bypassed.

 

[DarthMosco]

There's been no mention of the chip being solely for the UI. I'll do more digging, but I'm not inclined to call several official sources liars before learning more about how the authentication chip requirements were bypassed.

that the devices don't need a chip for compatibility in the game it's a fact

 

[CyberOcelot]

that the devices don't need a chip for compatibility in the game it's a fact

Can you please provide a source link so I can learn more on the topic?

Thanks in advance.

 

[DarthMosco]

T100 doesn't have it
T500RS doesn't have it
Fanatec wheels don't have it
so it isn't needed for in-game compatibility

 

[CyberOcelot]

T100 doesn't have it
T500RS doesn't have it
Fanatec wheels don't have it
so it isn't needed for in-game compatibility

That doesn't really say much against official statements from not just Sony, but third party manufacturers as well. Logitech isn't the only peripheral maker that had issues either. Here's another discussing the issues that MadCatz faced...

http://www.playstationlifestyle.net...upport-authenticating-security-chip-required/

Also, simply because you see some hardware working around the issue, that doesn't imply that every other peripheral can do the same. This is evident when you meet players like myself who use G27 on Project CARS, with full support on the PC side and have no issues.

So yes, it is in fact needed for in-game compatibility for many peripherals. You can also spot Sony's regulation by looking for the stamp on new peripherals that say "Officially licensed" on the packaging which implies the chip is in place.

As a side note, I personally would not trust a peripheral that bypasses the authentication methods Sony has imposed after the issues many experienced on the PS3 after the infamous 3.50 update that made MadCatz products stop working...

http://www.gamesradar.com/mad-catz-...ollers-so-much-for-being-officially-licensed/

 

[DarthMosco]

That doesn't really say much against official statements from not just Sony, but third party manufacturers as well. Logitech isn't the only peripheral maker that had issues either. Here's another discussing the issues that MadCatz faced...

http://www.playstationlifestyle.net...upport-authenticating-security-chip-required/

Also, simply because you see some hardware working around the issue, that doesn't imply that every other peripheral can do the same. This is evident when you meet players like myself who use G27 on Project CARS, with full support on the PC side and have no issues.

So yes, it is in fact needed for in-game compatibility for many peripherals. You can also spot Sony's regulation by looking for the stamp on new peripherals that say "Officially licensed" on the packaging which implies the chip is in place.

As a side note, I personally would not trust a peripheral that bypasses the authentication methods Sony has imposed after the issues many experienced on the PS3 after the infamous 3.50 update that made MadCatz products stop working...

http://www.gamesradar.com/mad-catz-...ollers-so-much-for-being-officially-licensed/

I give up, continue to think that the chip is necessary

30/10/2013

Will PS3 peripherals such as fighting sticks and steering wheels work with PS4?
Generally speaking, no. However, at launch, users will be able to use these controllers if a specific game title allows it to be used within the game. This decision is upon the game developer and will vary from game to game.

http://blog.us.playstation.com/2013/10/30/ps4-the-ultimate-faq-north-america/

It needs only a new driver, as did Fanatec and Thrustmasters
http://www.ign.com/articles/2014/10...veloper-creates-ps3-to-ps4-controller-drivers

if some manufacturers (MadCatz, Logitech) are lazy or out of the console peripherals business they may very well make excuses

 

[CyberOcelot]

I give up, continue to think that the chip is necessary

30/10/2013

http://blog.us.playstation.com/2013/10/30/ps4-the-ultimate-faq-north-america/

It needs only a new driver, as did Fanatec and Thrustmasters
http://www.ign.com/articles/2014/10...veloper-creates-ps3-to-ps4-controller-drivers

if some manufacturers (MadCatz, Logitech) are lazy or out of the console peripherals business they may very well make excuses

I have already linked you to where Sony themselves say the chip is required. Not sure why you're saying manufacturers are making excuses?

I wasn't debating, I was asking you for source links so I can review where you got your information.

Now that I see it, I think you missed an important part of my post that explains that, simply because some peripherals can work around it, it doesn't mean that all peripherals are capable of doing so. This is implied in the blog post link you provided from Sony.

And, in Mad Catz case, a simple 3.50 update for the PS3 (not PS4) disabled those peripherals simply because they weren't "officially licensed" which, even in your link, the implication is made that this can occur.

If, at any point in the PS4 life cycle, these updated drivers are used to make unofficial peripherals, Sony may impose a block on any unofficial peripherals and the Mad Catz issue returns. Mad Catz was still in business at the time.

It is true that Logitech is no longer making or supporting racing wheels (which I've already mentioned), so there is no work around that will be made and there's no one that a games developer can contact to do so. But, as I stated, if no chip is required, don't you find it odd that G27 is completely supported on PC on an outdated driver but cannot be on PS4? And, how can you be so adamant that, those without the chip will continue to work in a year or two or five after we already witnessed how PS3's 3.50 update affected other peripherals?

As a G27 owner this is not something I just decided to post about. I have supplied you with links throughout to every of my sources, and none of them were links that don't work, nor were they marketing blog oposts from the hardware manufacturer in question. And I'm studied in this BECAUSE I own a G27 and initially wanted the game on PS4 and was basically forced to purchase on PC due to lack of support.

I guess we'll agree to disagree.

 

[DarthMosco]

Source? Fanatec and Thrustmasters compatibility without the chip are the source

 

[CyberOcelot]

Source? Fanatec and Thrustmasters compatibility without the chip are the source

LOL!

OK... I guess I wasted my time giving you the sources needed to understand that doesn't matter. Noted. I won't make that mistake again.

 

[DarthMosco]

possible good news

http://m.neogaf.com/showpost.php?p=162947167

This seems to suggest that Logitech support is coming, but some kind of non-disclosure agreement is preventing anyone from saying anything. Seems hopeful...

 

[Tired Tyres]

I have already linked you to where Sony themselves say the chip is required. Not sure why you're saying manufacturers are making excuses?

I wasn't debating, I was asking you for source links so I can review where you got your information.

Now that I see it, I think you missed an important part of my post that explains that, simply because some peripherals can work around it, it doesn't mean that all peripherals are capable of doing so. This is implied in the blog post link you provided from Sony.

And, in Mad Catz case, a simple 3.50 update for the PS3 (not PS4) disabled those peripherals simply because they weren't "officially licensed" which, even in your link, the implication is made that this can occur.

If, at any point in the PS4 life cycle, these updated drivers are used to make unofficial peripherals, Sony may impose a block on any unofficial peripherals and the Mad Catz issue returns. Mad Catz was still in business at the time.

It is true that Logitech is no longer making or supporting racing wheels (which I've already mentioned), so there is no work around that will be made and there's no one that a games developer can contact to do so. But, as I stated, if no chip is required, don't you find it odd that G27 is completely supported on PC on an outdated driver but cannot be on PS4? And, how can you be so adamant that, those without the chip will continue to work in a year or two or five after we already witnessed how PS3's 3.50 update affected other peripherals?

As a G27 owner this is not something I just decided to post about. I have supplied you with links throughout to every of my sources, and none of them were links that don't work, nor were they marketing blog oposts from the hardware manufacturer in question. And I'm studied in this BECAUSE I own a G27 and initially wanted the game on PS4 and was basically forced to purchase on PC due to lack of support.

I guess we'll agree to disagree.

Point 1

Mad Catz. That was PS3 when a driver had to be via Sony. On the PS4 it doesn't. It's between wheel maker and game maker.

Point 2

http://gaming.logitech.com/en-gb/gaming-controllers

They still sell them, so they are legally required to support them.

 

[Johnnypenso]

I have already linked you to where Sony themselves say the chip is required. Not sure why you're saying manufacturers are making excuses?

I guess we'll agree to disagree.

Agree to disagree on what? The T500,without a security chip, works on the PS4, end of discussion. A security chip is only required for full functionality, the T500 needs a controller to navigate the menus, but the wheel still works as a fully functioning FFB wheel...without the security chip.

 

[gotdirt410sp]

I have a question will a gt3 fantech wheel mount on a wheel stand pro that was used for g27. I know I might have to make new holes, thanks

 

[HBR-Roadhog]

I have a question will a gt3 fantech wheel mount on a wheel stand pro that was used for g27. I know I might have to make new holes, thanks

I would think so. The Fanatec wheels can be bolted down. Like you say you will probably need different holes but so long as it is a flat surface and is large enough it should work fine.

I think the bolt pattern for the fanatec is something in the area of 8"x4" or something close to that. 4 bolts in a rectangle. 6mm bolts I think, been a while since I mounted mine.

 

[Kjelliken]

I hope GT7 will support it.

That would be Nice..

But Now I ordered the T500RS just incase...

 

[gdmnd]

Beeing the happy owner of a g27 and pcars on ps4, I wonder have anybody tried connecting a pc and ps4, thus beeing able to use the g27? Having paid for the game on ps4, would one be allowed download an extra copy to a pc?
I know I'm grasping at straws, but as many an old fart has learned, thekids know the darndest things... :-D

 

[SGETI]

Beeing the happy owner of a g27 and pcars on ps4, I wonder have anybody tried connecting a pc and ps4, thus beeing able to use the g27?

I like the thinking of trying to solve an issue. Is this even possible? We need some techie to step in tell us, yes or no.