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Genius cleans windows for a living.
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Last time I took an IQ test there wasn't much math on it, just general problem solving. Either the scope of his intelligence is wider than he thinks it is or he was given some sort of math-specific test or its just an estimate.
Either way, just because you're smart doesn't mean you're motivated enough to go to college. Kind of like how being motivated enough to go to college doesn't mean you're not a complete idiot.
The IQ test is not an expert, far from it. To say he is more clever than Einstein is as preposterous as saying Einstein is the pinnacle of genius!
Just because he read Maxwell and the media till today take the "spacetime" to be curved while actually a mathematical 4D space is curved under matter. Go figure...
IQ tests. Answering questions nobody cares about and comparing apples and oranges since 1900.
Just because he read Maxwell and the media till today take the "spacetime" to be curved while actually a mathematical 4D space is curved under matter. Go figure...
IQ tests. Answering questions nobody cares about and comparing apples and oranges since 1900.
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I really think IQ tests can actually be quite accurate when measuring your raw logical thinking capabilities like seeing a connection between shapes and figures, combining things, that's intelligence in it's essence. But yeah, IQ tests simply can't test creativity and without creativity the intelligence isn't worth too much.
^Close to your definition, for me intelligence is the extent of the ability to assocciate as many things at the least of time. At its heart is as you said pattern reckognition.
A typical IQ question would be:
Write the next number of the sequence: 2, 4, 8
Person A: 16, "sequence of powers of two"
Person B: 10, "hours on a clock that consist a square symmetry"
Which answer gets the points?
A typical IQ question would be:
Write the next number of the sequence: 2, 4, 8
Person A: 16, "sequence of powers of two"
Person B: 10, "hours on a clock that consist a square symmetry"
Which answer gets the points?
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Yup, this. Also I might add, a good memory GREATLY improves the own mental capabilities. It's simple, the better memory, the more information you can store and the faster you can acces it during a thought process. Sadly though, my memory is avarage at best. I once made an IQ test, which I found very good (it was the only good one by the way), it didn't have any questions where "knowledge" would be asked for, but simply logical thinking and I had a slightly above avarage result, oh well, I should be happy with what I have. 👍
Oh and Famine if you're reading this, not being "vitriolic" here, but I would actually love to know your I.Q., as you make at least the impression that you're quite high above the avarage level and work(ed) as a molecular biologist? (which I find pretty damned awesome to be honest)
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I was remind of Christopher Logan, who was a bouncer when a considerable amount of attention was drawn to him for his IQ. Tests put him at 190+, which is just insane. He has some interesting ideas, though not sure I agree with them.
As for Famine, it is obvious the guy is intelligent. One simply has to look at how well he can boil down complicated concepts into amusing analogies that make sense.
For what it is worth, I was given a lengthy IQ test as a child and scored 184 from what I recall. I've not sat down to take a proper test since becoming an adult, but they often mean less taken at older ages from what I've researched. Informal, self administered hour long or so tests, have still generated scores in the 160+ range. That aside, I still don't have a college degree or made a fortune doing my thing and I'm in my 20's. Supposedly high intelligence does not translate into success.
As for Famine, it is obvious the guy is intelligent. One simply has to look at how well he can boil down complicated concepts into amusing analogies that make sense.
For what it is worth, I was given a lengthy IQ test as a child and scored 184 from what I recall. I've not sat down to take a proper test since becoming an adult, but they often mean less taken at older ages from what I've researched. Informal, self administered hour long or so tests, have still generated scores in the 160+ range. That aside, I still don't have a college degree or made a fortune doing my thing and I'm in my 20's. Supposedly high intelligence does not translate into success.
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I feel like a huge stalker for doing this, but...
Well 172 is simply HUGE!
Einstein supposedly had an IQ of 168...
Hah, his IQ between 195-210. C-R-A-Z-Y. Always wondered if there are some amongst us, who could brake the 200 mark. Funny thing is, I always imagined the universe, us and God just like he does, after what I read on these subjects for about 2-3 years.
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I'm smarter than Einstein. I can dress myself.
I'm also dumber than Einstein. I can't do even a tenth of a percent of the math he could do.
IQ tests... feh. Traditionally they're about spatial awareness and pattern recognition, that I happen to be terribly good at. So I can tell you what number is next and what shape yellow block goes through what shape red or blue hole. I'm not so smart I've worked out a way to make that a marketable skill yet.
I'm also dumber than Einstein. I can't do even a tenth of a percent of the math he could do.
IQ tests... feh. Traditionally they're about spatial awareness and pattern recognition, that I happen to be terribly good at. So I can tell you what number is next and what shape yellow block goes through what shape red or blue hole. I'm not so smart I've worked out a way to make that a marketable skill yet.
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I didn't really want to indicate that you're smarter than him, but that you're definatly not far off. And not to be an arse licker but what you achieved so far proves that in some "categories" of intelligence you must be very high up there. But yeah, I'm getting what you're saying. Also, I find the field of genetics extremely interesting, what do you think about the theory that certain waves of energy or the consciousness itself (feelings, thoughts) can alter the genetics?
He was just an athlete of thinking, he spent months after months sitting there and thinking about well, what he thought about...
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Sweden's "most intelligent man" sells hotdogs for a living apparently. And one of the biggest math-geniuses in the world prefers picking mushrooms to solving mathematical problems. At least that's what i've heard.
Just because you're smart doesn't mean you're ambitious, or care about fancy jobs and titles.
Just because you're smart doesn't mean you're ambitious, or care about fancy jobs and titles.
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All these armchair "answers" and "reasons", yet nobody has stopped to actually think: Maybe he just likes washing windows...after all, it's simple enough work and the view is wonderful if you're cleaning high-rises. And generally, people leave you alone. But if he wants to do something else, well...there's not always a job opening at the right time.
Perhaps the test isn't flawed, but our demands for what people should do with their lives is the culprit.
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Perhaps the test isn't flawed, but our demands for what people should do with their lives is the culprit.
- Grandson of a former window washer.
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Translation: Your bourgeious views of what constitutes success is at fault. 
I can imagine intelligent people washing windows and loving it. There's a kind of zen to repetitive, brainless work that allows you to use the rest of your mental capacity for other things.
I score pretty decently on IQ tests and math tests, but I had a classmate in high school who was insane. He could do cube roots out to several digits in his head. Went to Japan for an international competition, placed just one spot off the podium.
I can imagine intelligent people washing windows and loving it. There's a kind of zen to repetitive, brainless work that allows you to use the rest of your mental capacity for other things.
I score pretty decently on IQ tests and math tests, but I had a classmate in high school who was insane. He could do cube roots out to several digits in his head. Went to Japan for an international competition, placed just one spot off the podium.
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Agreed. I have never taken an IQ test but was always on the honor roll through high school, close to 90% average in all high school classes. I did two and a half years of university to realize I hate it, that degree isn't for me.
If I had my way I wouldn't have gone to school after graduating and probably would have started a trade after a year or two of traveling. Does that make me less ambitious? Lazy? No I don't think so.
People's expectations put unrealistic pressures on people and it's only when people stray from the norm that people stop and pay attention. A genius washing windows doesn't make sense to anybody and while Omnis' suggestion of accountant makes sense maybe he'd rather do anything but that. I know I would, in fact I was pressured toward that many times because math was my best subject.
