Get the BEST performance online (DMZ) Sticky this!

[porschedrifter]

If you own a router with a firewall, I have THE best option for you to make sure you are getting the best connection performance. (This will also work for all online games)

As you may or may not know, GT5 is especially picky with people behind firewalls.

By setting your PS3 onto the routers DMZ, it completely bypasses the firewall and gives you a clean direct connection to your WAN.

What you need to do is:
1. Config your PS3 in the network settings to a static IP address manually.
(guide here: http://foggaming.com/modules.php?name=PS3&file=ps3_ip )

2. Add the PS3's static IP to your routers DMZ zone.
(Google for router specific guides, however it should be close enough to this: ( http://support.netgear.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/1118/~/how-to-make-a-dmz)

Congrats, now spread the word!

 

[MOTORTRENDmitch]

It's useful information, but, Sticky This! Is a little unnecessary

 

[porschedrifter]

Its quite possibly the best thing you can do for online performance, IMO it should be stickied.

Sorry to offend you

 

[ZohsixGT5]

This is pretty common knowledge I think. I have a static IP for my Xbox and PS3, as well as my roommates Xbox, PS3, and Wii. It's just better that way. Otherwise the router might prioritise the devices I don't want to have the best connection, such as my phone or iPod.

 

[MOTORTRENDmitch]

Its quite possibly the best thing you can do for online performance, IMO it should be stickied.

Sorry to offend you

not offended at all, I was just saying 👍

 

[porschedrifter]

This is pretty common knowledge I think. I have a static IP for my Xbox and PS3, as well as my roommates Xbox, PS3, and Wii. It's just better that way. Otherwise the router might prioritise the devices I don't want to have the best connection, such as my phone or iPod.

Static IP does nothing for you in terms of performance, it's the DMZ that matters, however you must make the 1 device IP you want to be in the DMZ zone static, as you can only ever put a single device's IP into the DMZ at all times.

Static IP is just forcing the DHCP to keep that IP always for that device, you won't see any type of better performance because of it, the only reason you "should" do a static IP is if you have ports forwarded/triggered for that specific IP or you are implementing the DMZ, otherwise you should just let the DHCP do it's thing automatically.

Gaming consoles should *never* be behind a firewall, ever. You should always put your gaming console into the DMZ if you have the option.

 

[esoxhntr]

....and you need to make sure your ISP provides you with a public IP address (dynamic is fine).

no amount of DMZing will help if you're double NATted.

 

[leeson65]

Wow I have no idea what any of this means. I have no idea if I am double NATted. I sure hope not. I bum off my neighbors internet anyway so... can't really do much about it. Maybe I'll go over and ask him if he knows if he's double NATted, no matter how much he may be DMZing.

 

[ZeGermanBastorD]

It's basically enough to open 6 ports on your router, see here: The ULTIMATE ultimate guide to fixing your NAT.

Or you can set up your PS3 as an "Exposed Host" in your router port settings. This will bypass the router firewall for all connections to/from your PS3 (lag-free gaming). Hacking-dangerous for your PC if you set up your PC as an exposed host, but not for your PS3 (hacker un-friendly file system).

You might have to use both settings if you have connected 2 PS3's to your router, that's what I had to do. And don't forget to set up a fixed IP adress on your PS3's, else it will only work till your next re-connect.


If you did everything right, the network test on your PS3 will look like the following & you can from now on enjoy a lag-free online gaming experience, without lagging cars on the road. You also can join much more lobbies btw.

 

[porschedrifter]

It's basically enough to open 6 ports on your router, see here: The ULTIMATE ultimate guide to fixing your NAT.

Or you can set up your PS3 as an "Exposed Host" in your router port settings. This will bypass the router firewall for all connections to/from your PS3 (lag-free gaming). Hacking-dangerous for your PC if you set up your PC as an exposed host, but not for your PS3 (hacker un-friendly file system).

You might have to use both settings if you have connected 2 PS3's to your router, that's what I had to do. And don't forget to set up a fixed IP adress on your PS3's, else it will only work till your next re-connect.

That's not true, some games require even more ports to be opened you can see a partial list here (scroll down to PS3 listings) http://portforward.com/cports.htm

"exposed host" is the same as DMZ.

DMZ is the one click fix, the best-no fuss approach and better than forwarding ports. As long as you have one gaming console in your house that you play online with, or don't care about the others, DMZ is still the best way, not the guide you linked to.

 

[ZeGermanBastorD]

That's not true, some games require even more ports to be opened you can see a partial list here (scroll down to PS3 listings) http://portforward.com/cports.htm

"exposed host" is the same as DMZ.

DMZ is the one click fix, the best-no fuss approach and better than forwarding ports. As long as you have one gaming console in your house that you play online with, or don't care about the others, DMZ is still the best way, not the guide you linked to.

Yes, you are right.

But 90% of the PS3 games are using these 6 ports, and only these 6. As I don't play atm some of the moronic games on my PS3 who are dancing out of the line (like Morons of Duty, Fiva or NHL), I am currently fine with my setup.

I still don't get it how some guys can play ego shooter games on a console. It's completely retarded without a mouse & keyboard.

Btw. here's a DMZ Guide, posted by an PSN admin: How to put your PS3 into a DMZ

Its quite possibly the best thing you can do for online performance, IMO it should be stickied.

And you should use a Lan cable instead of a wireless connection. That's another big performance boost.

Wlan is really horrible for gaming.

 

[iRepDaNAP]

Very good info here!! People can be very stubborn when it comes to things they don't completely understand but I've had my PS3 in DMZ since I had problems with Madden 07 and I have not had any problems since.

 

[Catch---22]

Same experience here... Once setting the PS3 outside of the firewall ("DMZ'd"), several years ago, I have had few issues with any online game. It's simple, reversible and as long as one takes the time to understand what they are doing, should solve most connection errors.

PSN could improve the online portion greatly, by restricting the allowable variances in the rooms (or do it to a higher degree).

Turning down the audio quality when hosting also generally improves the online game. I'd rather the game were "real-time" in control, over the high quality sound of voice in any case.

It's a great game...a work in progress (which "ain't" a bad thing)

 

[toymdngn]

This is all very good info. I may have to try this out later, as I usually get disconnected from my friends lobby anytime I'm streaming music to my laptop from Spotify and playing GT5 at the same time. Otherwise, if I (or my wife) turn off spotify, my connection is solid...

 

[Vol Jbolaz]

I don't really advise putting anything into the DMZ. However, a practical reason to keep your PS3 on your LAN, is for media streaming. If the PS3 can't get to the PC that hosts the media, then it can't stream it.

 

[davelis]

if you guys have routers that support DD WRT then install it.
It will revive your router and get rid of any problems with the PS3.

 

[MustangCobra95]

It's basically enough to open 6 ports on your router, see here: The ULTIMATE ultimate guide to fixing your NAT.

Or you can set up your PS3 as an "Exposed Host" in your router port settings. This will bypass the router firewall for all connections to/from your PS3 (lag-free gaming). Hacking-dangerous for your PC if you set up your PC as an exposed host, but not for your PS3 (hacker un-friendly file system).

You might have to use both settings if you have connected 2 PS3's to your router, that's what I had to do. And don't forget to set up a fixed IP adress on your PS3's, else it will only work till your next re-connect.


If you did everything right, the network test on your PS3 will look like the following & you can from now on enjoy a lag-free online gaming experience, without lagging cars on the road. You also can join much more lobbies btw.

I'm trying to do that link you sent me and it doesn't seem to be working. Might be because of the software update I never did but I'll look back and edit to confirm that.

 

[ZeGermanBastorD]

I'm trying to do that link you sent me and it doesn't seem to be working. Might be because of the software update I never did but I'll look back and edit to confirm that.

Follow the guide & make sure you entered all datas (especially the IP adresses & the 6 ports) corectly, then it should work. 👍

I also had first some trouble, I think I forgot to turn off Upnp on my PS3. I think I also restarted the PS3 & restarted my router (unplugged it from the power) after the job was done. Then it worked, was maybe a "handshake" problem.

 

[MustangCobra95]

Follow the guide & make sure you entered all datas (especially the IP adresses & the 6 ports) corectly, then it should work. 👍

I also had first some trouble, I think I forgot to turn off Upnp on my PS3. I think I also restarted the PS3 & restarted my router (unplugged it from the power) after the job was done. Then it worked, was maybe a "handshake" problem.

I'm only getting one DNS address by the way. What do I do about the second one?

 

[watermelon punch]

This is pretty common knowledge I think.

No. Most people buy a ps3 & some games, and just plug it in and have it on the same wireless connection everything else is on, any old way, and never think about any of this... if they even understand it.
I would be willing to bet most people never even think about this until they have problems.

👍 sticky ftw

 

[ZeGermanBastorD]

I'm only getting one DNS address by the way. What do I do about the second one?

Yea, I think the DNS is the routers IP adress. So there's only one (f.e. 192.168.178.1). If you have to enter a second one, then use the same as for the first one, because you have only one router, right.

If it doesn't work, then just leave the second one blank.

No. Most people buy a ps3 & some games, and just plug it in and have it on the same wireless connection everything else is on, any old way, and never think about any of this... if they even understand it.
I would be willing to bet most people never even think about this until they have problems.

👍 sticky ftw

That's right. 👍

An average customer has absolutely no clue about these problems or how to fix these things. It isn't that there is a huge warning sticker on the PS3's box or a guide inside the box for how to fix it. Without google I would still have these problems. What do you think how many customers have stopped playing with their PS3 because of these problems?

On PC port forwarding works without any problems via UPnP, for any game I've played till now, why not on the PS3? I guess it's a hardware problem & I hope they sort it out for the PS4.

 

[phil_75]

Am I right in thinking that if I'm on NAT TYPE 2 (UPnP Enabled) everything is ok and I don't need to do anything more?

Its all a bit techy for me!

 

[tourist]

You are right.

I had huge online problems. Disconnects every time i was playing online.
Tried pretty much everything. Including DMZ, but it didnt help.

But after an update, i dont remember which one, the problem was gone and i never ever had a disconnect again. And i am playing on Nat 2 with automatic settings since couple months.


The most important thing imo is, to have a wired connection.

 

[ZeGermanBastorD]

Am I right in thinking that if I'm on NAT TYPE 2 (UPnP Enabled) everything is ok and I don't need to do anything more?

Its all a bit techy for me!

Are you connected directly to the internet or via an router? Are you using a Lan cable or Wlan?

I think mine showed NAT typ 3 with Wlan & type 2 with a Lan cable. But I still got with Nat type 2 problems, before I used the manual settings. The main problem is not that it says NAT type 2 or 3, the main problem is that if your PS3 is connected to an router with UPnP enabled, you have a problem (disconnects, lame connection,etc.). UPnP (opens the ports automatically if required) doesn't work flawlessly or fast enough, at least not on the PS3.

That's the reason why you have to open these required ports manally & permanently, or set your PS3 up as an exposed host/DMZ (which will open all ports manually & permanently).

It's kinda like on the highway with a tollbooth. The firewall of the router is our tollbooth. No tollbooth means no waiting time. The data can travel barrier free.

 

[toymdngn]

I have a 2wire gateway with the PS3 connection wired... I got the first part of the OP, but once it got to the router settings, I got lost, since none of it looks anything like the page for my router/gateway...

 

[bushmaster]

Dose this also apply for a DSL modem I don't have a router .

 

[ssyd780]

It may improve performance and in some cases it can make a connection work that isn't but if you're just looking to lower your ping, it's not worth opening a massive security hole to do it. A DMZ leaves every single port on your router wide open to hackers. Don't use it unless you absolutely have to.

Don't sticky this. There are too many drawbacks to using a DMZ to justify using it. Learn a bit about your router and learn how to forward ports instead.

 

[bushmaster]

I don't have a router only a DSL modem

 

[HuskyGT]

Thankfully, although I have a modem/router with Wi-Fi, I have it in my room so I have a connection to my PS3 through ethernet cable.

But this is very good info and I'm sure it will be of much help with people who might have problems updating GT5 due to disconnections, if they don't have the option to connect directly through ethernet cable. As I discovered previously, while updating, if you get briefly disconnected, it will fail to install the update and corrupt your game data utility file.

 

[Vol Jbolaz]

I still find this sort of advice troubling. Again, if the PS3 is in the DMZ, it can't get to any media servers. If someone puts a media server in the DMZ, it will be compromised. One can measure the time it takes for a Windows machine bare on the internet to be compromised in minutes.

The other thing that bothers me is, just because I don't know how to remotely hack a PS3 over TCP/IP, doesn't mean it can't be done. Admittedly, it will be harder because the PS3 is doing less and accepting few connections, but that doesn't mean it is impossible. I still advise against it.