Ginger, Rust, Auburn, Redhead

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Prejudices Against Ginger, Rust, Auburn Or Redhead - A Problem Unnoticed Or Not As Big A Deal?

As some of you will already know I have 'ginger' hair. As many of us (in the UK and the USA at least) also know, us 'gingers' suffer abuse at times from certain members of society.

Or maybe you didn't know that. Maybe you weren't aware of it. Maybe you are aware of it, but don't perceive it as a 'real' problem when compared to homophobia or racism. My thread for debate for you, GTPers, is to debate whether prejudice against people with the same melatonin imbalance as me and many others is something which needs greater attention, something which is dealt with adequately, or whether it isn't a real problem and people should just get on with it.

You may be wondering while I write ginger with inverted commas. Well, that's because I consider it a misnomer. Unless I'm colour blind, ginger the spice isn't particularly reflective of my hair colour. Nor is the hair colour ever 'red'. Red is that fake hair colour which is frequently used in hair dye by teenage girls trying to be cool.

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Looks kinda brown to me.

During my lifetime, you'd be surprised to know that on innumerable occasions people, typically the usual sort of uneducated bigot, would actually slow down in their cars, wind down the window and just shout "GINGERRRR!", like they wanted a medal for stating the bleedin' obvious, then zoom off.

When I was in Germany, I got stares pretty much everywhere I went because I was the only orange haired chap there. I saw just one other in the 9 months I lived there.

Many of my homochromed friends say they suffer the same sort of thing. Just snides everywhere. Any sort of 'banter' (Another hateful invention of the 2010s) is immediately ended with "At least I'm not ginger!" And this is grown 'adults' we're talking about, not just children.

Do gingers have souls? Another 'classic', now ubiquitous thanks to South Park. Souls don't exist so nobody has one. Or, as I like to say, each freckle on my body represents a soul I've captured and devoured.

Do we have ginger pubes? Yes. We do. Stop asking.

Frankly, while I personally am less affected as the years go on and those around me mature and I find myself in better company, I think this is something which is swept under the rug and treated as less important than prejudice towards someone's skin colour. To me, the principle is the same; judging someone by their skin colour is equally wrong as judging someone by their [natural] hair colour.

What do you think?
 
Its just a joke. If people make fun of you for it, shrug it off and be happy to know that there's hopeless people out there who pathetically think hair colour makes a difference.
 
I've spent my entire school time, from since I was 5 untill I was 16 with a red head in my class, she was never bullied about it. But then again, being a red head in the Netherlands doesn't seem to be so much of an issue at all.


And no. Gingers do not have souls. :P
 
(slight language warning - it's Tim Minchin though)
 
I have friends that are gingers and while we sometimes joke around with them they joke right back and it doesn't seem to bother them. I think there's a point where it could be harassment but as long as both parties know they are joking I see nothing wrong with it. Same with other races/hair colors etc. Blondes get it pretty bad too sometimes.

Personally I have nothing against them. In fact I think red hair is pretty damn cool. 👍
 
Having actual prejudices against gingers is as bad as having prejudices against people who who are of of a different race. But we all know having such prejudices is socially unacceptable in this day snd age. So now that racism is out, I declare an open season on homosexuals and people who enjoy watching immasculine television shows and discussing them on the internet.

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'gingers' suffer abuse at times from certain members of society.
My last name is Rosenkranz and all my friends call me Jewish. Maybe it's the big nose, or that it's always runny, or some other habits, but they always joke that I'm Jewish.

Rosenkranz translates directly to "rosary" in German, a Roman Catholic symbol that I'm sure many of you are aware of. I don't think any religion in the history of humanity has done as much destruction as Roman Catholic. Pretty sure Hitler based his ideals on Roman Catholic principles.

The Jew jokes are annoying but funny. My point is that I think you should just suck it up. At least you aren't black, right?
 
Here, as far as I know "gingers" doesn't get bullied, but worshipped, well, at least a classmate (She's the only "ginger" person I know actually :lol:)

When my classmates (including her), me are walking in the school to go to a class, some people ask to take her a photo (specially those awkward guys from the photography class),


And I think it's a joke that has gone too far

I've seen some memes making fun of that people, as far as I see, people don't see that they're doing the same as they did (and do) with black people, asians, french, etc.
 
My last name is Rosenkranz and all my friends call me Jewish. Maybe it's the big nose, or that it's always runny, or some other habits, but they always joke that I'm Jewish.

I'm surprised they don't crack jokes about you having a friend called Guildenstern. ;)
 
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Personally I've never known of any weirdness, hatred, prejudice, or ridicule against red-headed persons.

Unless they have a lot of freckles, too!
 
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Sounds like a cry for attention in my opinion.
I've been wearing a ginger beard since I could grow one and it's never been a problem. More an issue of admiration (for men) and attraction (for ladies).
 
I get considerable stick for having an incredibly popular look, dark hair and glasses. I probably look like 10% of the population and have more celebrity look alikes than most. I also have a long history of doppelgangers from all around the world (Most recently a tibetan monk).

But you know what? It beats being short.

Just like ginger beats being bald.
 
Just like ginger beats being bald.
Depends on your style, again. I don't want to be bald - it's not my personality, not my style. But if I were a tough guy with a leather vest and a Harley, bald would be badass. I could get tattoos on my head and nobody would ever mess with me and I'd get mad biker girl poontang.

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Merica.

Also, Bruce Willis.

*These analogies only apply to white people
 
I have a close relative who's a redhead, and dated a redhead for a fair length of time. Never saw or heard of anything resembling discrimination against redheads.

I'd also never heard the term "ginger" applied to redheads other than here on GTP so I'm guessing it's all a regional thing.

Or maybe Kent got it right.
 
I've got ginger hair and I've had abuse thrown at me throughout my life. Half of the stuff I get doesn't bother me anymore. What still pi**es me off is when I'm having a debate/argument with someone - including my friends - if they can't think of anything relevant to say they 'end' it with a ginger remark, claiming I have no soul thanks to South Park.

Another thing I get is 'Ron Weasley' sometimes I've said 'yes I am and I'm much richer than you, you mudblood'.

But what pi**es me off the most is when my friends start giving me grief and include a few ginger remarks and then when I start to hit back they all shoot me down and claim how 'childish' and 'immature' I am and say 'I can't take a joke'. I know thats probably more to do with my friends but I get it from other folk too.
 
Female gingers are only being made fun of by other females because they cannot handle the ginger beauty.

There, I said it.
 
I can confirm that I am member of this club. Until the age of about 8-9 I had a curly ginger 'fro.

Of course, growing up there was the usual abuse which never really got to me. My hair actually got darker from the age of 12 upwards so it's now really a very dark reddy/brown shade. I'm going bald anyway (eff you gingerness!).

The problem is that some people get bullied really badly because of their ginger hair. It's not right, bullying anyone for any distinctive feature is not right. Every form of bullying should be treated in the same way.

I get banter still today, it's one of those things between friends, nothing is meant by it. I haven't had any strangers say anything for years, literally 15 + years which takes me back to when I was 15-16.

In saying all of this, no one got bullied more at my school more than the fat people. If you were fat and ginger then you had real problems. I saw some pretty terrible bullying at my secondary school and thinking back now I wish I had the balls at the time to say something.
 
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I have a close relative who's a redhead, and dated a redhead for a fair length of time. Never saw or heard of anything resembling discrimination against redheads.

I'd also never heard the term "ginger" applied to redheads...

Same here, although I'd never heard the term until about 4-5 years ago. My cousin was tired of people calling him "carrot top" (this is before the comedian of the same name was popular), mainly because carrots technically have green tops...but that was pretty much the extent of what he'd heard.

That said, kids will make fun of whatever they want to or just learned (especially if it gets any sort of reaction), so there's no prevention other than building up thick skin.

My beard has picked up a few red strands over the years to go with the gray, black, and brown...although I have no red hair on my head.
 
Isn't 'ginger' the rarest hair color of the human population. I think that's pretty cool. You've got natural anime hair color! 👍

You could cosplay as Ichigo without the need of an ugly fake wig or the trouble of dying your hair! :dopey:

I get that, but really? Pubes? :crazy:

It's like the time when I asked my Indian friend if his uh, semen is black. Stupid questions gets asked, purpose being satirical or not.

I totally did that as a joke BTW, I'm not that big of an idiot. :sly: It's just, the brain makes some crazy connections sometimes. :scared:
 
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