Got $15000 to spend on a car in REAL LIFE, what should I get?

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My family has decided that it's time to upgrade my car so they gave me $15000 :) and I am thankful for that. But I can't decide on what to get. :banghead: I like the WRX a lot but it just seems way out of my range. Oh yeah, and they want me to get a 4 door, which limits my options but I'm not complaining.

Please give some advice.

Thanks.
 
...And I dont think this thread belongs here either


In any case welcome to
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Not really up on US prices (I live in AUS) anything in your price range would be ideal, especially a REX, how much for a Supra over there?
 
Recently spotted a 99STi in a weekly news paper over here for $39990AUS whic would make it around the 18-20K mark in the US i reckon
 
15 isnt alot if you're thinkin of getting a new car...you're not too far from a subaru impreza 2.5 RS though...probably not quite enough for the turbo wrx...but why dont you go for...an AE86...great car =) ....or get a 240sx fastback... with 15..you can get the car..and still afford to do the SR20DET swap =) ...just some ideas
 
Geez, I don't think we have any Sti's here except for the recent 2004 WRX Sti @ $31000. Supra's run for about twenty something depends on the condition I think. RX-7's can be had for around $15000 but I gotta get a 4 door.
 
Phame - Yeah, I know $15000 isn't a lot that's why I'm only looking at used cars. The 240sx does sound good though. Thanks.

1mic - I don't know much about the Dodge SRT-4 except for the fact that it looks like a Neon. I suppose I could wait to make some extra money. But this might take up to 6 mos. : ((
 
Originally posted by ewgf
My family has decided that it's time to upgrade my car so they gave me $15000 :) and I am thankful for that. But I can't decide on what to get. :banghead: I like the WRX a lot but it just seems way out of my range. Oh yeah, and they want me to get a 4 door, which limits my options but I'm not complaining.

Please give some advice.

Thanks.

That's pretty cool. The only thing that really sucks is having to get a 4-door. The cheapest cool 4-door is the $20,000 Mazdaspeed Protege. The 2004 WRX is $31,500.

A couple things to keep in mind, though: If you've got bad credit and not a lot of cash, you also can't afford to get something that isn't extremely reliable. In the US, that means your best bet is getting a certified pre-owned Toyota/Lexus or Honda/Acura, because they're the used cars you can trust more than anything else, and you get a warranty.

When you're spending $15,000 on a used car, you can get something that's only a couple years old and has all the options. The used cars I would look at would be:

2001 Subaru Impreza RS AWD Secan
2.5L 5-speed, AWD, 165 HP, 2825 lbs.
$14,700

1999 Accord EX V6 4-door
3.0L auto, FF, 200 HP, 3020 lbs.
$14,200

2000 Toyota Camry XLE V6
3.0L 5-speed, FF, 200 HP, 3252 lbs.
$15,000

1997 Lexus ES 300
3.0L V6 auto, FF, 200 HP, 3296 lbs.
$14,000

1998 Acura TL 2.5
2.5L auto, FF, 176 HP, 3282 lbs.
$14,100

1998 Acura TL 3.2
3.2L auto, FF, 200 HP, 3513 lbs.
$14,600

The 165 HP Impreza RS might not be a WRX, but it looks really nice, and for the sake of reliability and just for the practicality of everyday driving, you're honestly better off without a turbo. The 2001 RS is basically the same thing as the 2002 WRX without a turbo. The RS has come down a lot in price just because the WRX was released the next year.

The Accord V6 EX has nice wheels and a ton of good stuff on it. The Acura TL 2.5 is a better looking car with nicer wheels than the TL 3.2.

Of course, there are actually plenty new cars you can get, too. 4-doors you could get for $15,000 that don't suck are:

2003 Honda Civic LX 4-door
1.7L 5-speed, FF, 115 HP, 2513 lbs.
$14,200

2004 Toyota Corolla CE
1.8L 5-speed, FF, 130 HP, 2502 lbs.
$13,800

2003 Mazda Protege DX
2.0L 5-speed, FF, 130 HP, 2634 lbs.
$14,900

2004 Chevy Cavalier 4-door
2.2L 5-speed, FF, 140 HP, 2676 lbs.
$14,900 -$3,000 customer cash thingy this month

2003 VW Golf GL 4-door Hatchback
2.0L 5-speed, FF, 115 HP, 3759 lbs.
$15,000

2003 Mitsubishi Lancer ES
2.0L, 5-speed, FF, 120 HP, 3638 lbs.
$14,300

The Civic LX comes with good standard equipment like air, cruise, power windows, CD player, and a bunch of other stuff that will be tough to get on a new car with a bigger engine.

The Golf is a pretty nice car, but it's made in Mexico (then again, Jettas are, too). The Protege handles really well for a sedan, and even the cheaper DX model has decent power and comes with a CD player standard. You could also get a Sentra, but that's a pretty crappy car unless you get the $17,500 one. Same goes for the Neon. You could get a Focus, but those have lower reliability than most new cars.
 
Originally posted by 1mic
omg i cant believe nobody put the:
Dodge SRT-4???
its about 19,xxx? just work off the last 4gs

OMG! Maybe nobody suggested it because the SRT-4 is $20,995 and he said he only had $15,000 to spend!!!

The Neon SRT-4 is pretty badass, though... It'd almost make me not ashamed to be in a little girly Neon. :)

Turbos are just a bad idea for your daily driver, though. It's nice that more cars are coming with superchargers these days. Even a normal car like the Grand Prix GTP has a 3.8L supercharged V6 with some low-end torque you can actually feel.
 
Originally posted by BadBatsuMaru
Even a normal car like the Grand Prix GTP has a 3.8L supercharged V6 with some low-end torque you can actually feel.
Yes it has torque... but it still sucks :P
 
ewgf, why don't you try narrowing down your choices first? Do you want an automatic or manual? Will you have some cash on hand for repairs and mods or will it need to be a bullet-proof proposition? Do you want an import or domestic?

BadBatsuMaru put together a pretty solid list for you. Honestly, in terms of quality, longevity and bang for the buck, its hard to beat the various Honda and Toyota offerings on the list. There's a good reason why Civics are so popular.

But if you're willing to dig around and wait for good opportunity, I'll add a couple that you may also want to consider.


'99-00 Jetta GLS/GLI 1.8T. Sensible, soild German sedan with good aftermarket support. Roomy, practical, lots of standard goodies in GLI trim. Easily chips to 220+ hp for less than $450. Decent handling for FWD if you get one with sport package. Only downside is spotty reliability record.

'96-98 BMW 3 series. Gold mine of a car if you pick a clean one. Long lived and exceptional value IF properly maintained. 328i with 5-speed/sport pack a pleasure to drive. Exemplary handling. Quick, stylish; defines the sports-sedan. Tremendous aftermarket and enthusiast community (for a Euro import). Downsides: many of them have been riden hard and put away wet. Parts and service prices can cause heartattacks. The key is to pick a good one with records. A low milage BMWCCA member owned car is the A-ticket.

'96-97 Volvo 850 Turbo. Not an obvious choice, but I consider these one of the best used car deals going today. You can pick 'em up all day long for under $10,000. Big, plush, loaded --good power if you get the turbo. Generally dependable and solid cars without many surprises. Parts and service is almost down-to-earth for an import. Upping the boost is even an option. Downside: I guess its a terminally 'un-cool' car according to some people, so you'll have to be prepared to not care.

I'm hesitating recommending '98-99 Audi A4. They are in your price range, but I don't have much experience with used ones. They seem to hold up from what I hear, and don't suffer from the maladies of the big-brother S4. I'd still stay clear of the Quattro versions, due to potential trouble with the AWD systems. The FWD 1.8T (shared with the Jetta) is probably your best buy.

All of these cars except for the Jetta will have over 50k on them. However, there is no reason a 50k+ Euro import cannot be a good ownership experience, provided you get the car checked out by a specialist, but you'll want to steer clear of the neglected ones. Some of these cars, especially the bimmer, can be very expensive to make right if they've had a tough life. If you have the means and ability to turn your own wrench, many of these cars are in easy DIY territory more than half the time.


///M-Spec
 
Originally posted by ///M-Spec


'96-97 Volvo 850 Turbo. Not an obvious choice, but I consider these one of the best used car deals going today. You can pick 'em up all day long for under $10,000. Big, plush, loaded --good power if you get the turbo. Generally dependable and solid cars without many surprises. Parts and service is almost down-to-earth for an import. Upping the boost is even an option. Downside: I guess its a terminally 'un-cool' car according to some people, so you'll have to be prepared to not care.


850 T5-R's are awesome!
 
Originally posted by BadBatsuMaru
It's nice that more cars are coming with superchargers these days. Even a normal car like the Grand Prix GTP has a 3.8L supercharged V6 with some low-end torque you can actually feel.

Exactly what I was going to suggest. you can easily get a decent 97-00 GTP for 15...hell you could get a good one for 12 and have 3 grand left to mod it w/. W/ a few simple mods like a smaller pulley, intake, exhaust, and new computer its very capable of hitting high 13's. If you can find a 2 door w/ cloth interior and no sun roof you'll easily save yourself a few hundred pounds too. (Every bit counts :) ) The top end isnt as great as say an LT1 engine, but w/ a few mods it should have no problem hanging w/ a Z28, until you get past 100-110 anyways, haha
 
Man, I really didn't expect this much input. I am absolutely overwhelmed. I really appreciate your responses, especially BadBatsuMaru's and ///M-Spec's. I am now officially your fans. Guess I didn't realize the full potential of the $15k my parents gave me. (thank you mom dad).

So I narrowed down to a import, since reliability is a huge concern. Please, I'm no domestic hater but domestic cars just seem a lot less reliable from what I've seen. Manual or automatic depending on availability. I will have some extra cash to fix the car up in case it breaks down. Most of the cars listed are great but I would prefer the following, if they are obtainable:

1997 Lexus ES 300
1998 Acura TL 2.5
1998 Acura TL 3.2
2003 VW Golf GL 4-door Hatchback
'98-99 Audi A4
1999 Accord EX V6 4-door

I actually like the 1999 Accord EX V6 2-door better. Maybe my parents won't be too unhappy if I get the Coupe instead since "it's a Honda" :). I'm still thinking about this.

Another thing I'm concerned about is where to find these cars. Someone suggested ebayautos.com. I have visited that page quite frequently but I never had actual ONLINE CAR TRADING experience. I wonder how safe that is. I sold and bought things up to $1000 value on eBay but cars might be a different story.

So my first option right now is the local private parties but that could mean longer wait and less selection. Any suggestions on this? Thanks. :)
 
...didnt the wrx make its debut here in '00?:confused:

Actually the WRX didn't make its debut until the 2002 model. Before that the RS was the best Subaru Amecicans could get. Which is crap compared to ...say the 22B. I know that's not very realistic comparison but ... you know.
 
Now that you've heard all that, here's the answer:

- 1994-2001 Acura Integra sedan: always a great deal; get it closer to 2001 for more stuff
- 1996-1998 Acura 2.5TL: five-cylinder; more 'fun' than the more expensive V6 TL of the same age
- 1995-1996 Audi S6: completely kickass; hard to insure
- 1992-1998 BMW 3-series sedan: can't go wrong; even the 318i is a safe bet
- 1994-1996 BMW 5-series V8: V8 originally on 540 only, but later expanded to 530i
- 1994-1996 Chevrolet Impala SS: woo!
- 1989-1995 Ford Taurus SHO: better than the final SHO
- 1990-1996 Infiniti Q45: luxury, cheaply; Consumer Reports calls it most reliable car ever
- 1994-2000 Mercedes C280: overpriced, but looks great
- 1992-1996 Mitsubishi Diamante: BMW looks, think $2k-8k. Bargain
- 1993-1997 Saab 9000 Aero: incredible performance; looks best in black
- 1998-1999 Subaru Legacy 2.5GT: AWD, cheap, reliable
- 1995-1999 Toyota Avalon XLS: leather, CD, auto for $9k - can't go wrong with a Toyota, either
- 1994-1997 Volvo 850 Turbo: especially 96-97 with five-spoke wheels for maximised coolness
- 1996-1997 Volvo 850R sedan: incredible performance; slightly expensive
- 1995-1997 Volvo 850 T-5R: third-fastest Swedish car ever; 3000 total imported, only in yellow
 
If I were to decide, see if you cant pickup an S15 or S14 and drop in a RB25det froma R33 or R32 fr Skyline not 4wd. Make sure to get the tranny and ecu and wiring. It would be best to get a half cut car from japan. You could definitely get it all for 15k if you search long enuf. Good luck.
 
If I were to decide, see if you cant pickup an S15 or S14 and drop in a RB25det froma R33 or R32 fr Skyline not 4wd. Make sure to get the tranny and ecu and wiring. It would be best to get a half cut car from japan. You could definitely get it all for 15k if you search long enuf. Good luck.
 

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