Gran Turismo World Series 2024 Thread

[Nebuc72]

Don't like that manu is Gr.3 only for GT1. Races are also extraordinarily long. I'd be happy to dunk myself into GT2 for this series, because there's no appeal to me there whatsoever. Just when I thought they'd already hit the bottom of the barrel in terms of variety, they manage to go even deeper.

I feel like PD forget that just because you're a faster driver, it doesn't mean you only want to drive one type of fast car for like an hour straight.

 

[Yard_Sale]

Oh my...


I remember like it was yesterday that the forum was up in arms because GT2/3 didn't get long races. Now people are complaining because the races are too long???

NOT TO MENTION.....

A lot of us have said that the biggest and easiest determent for dirty driving, is just to set damage to "Heavy". And now peopler are unsure about that now too??


10 laps at the Ring?? Bring it on! I can't wait!!

 

[Nebuc72]

Oh my...


I remember like it was yesterday that the forum was up in arms because GT2/3 didn't get long races. Now people are complaining because the races are too long???

I mean these aren't mutually exclusive things?

There's a difference between GT1 getting 15 laps vs GT2 getting 7 laps, and GT1 getting 35 laps vs GT2 getting 15.
There's no reason for GT2 to not be 15 instead of 7 - but increasing a race from 15 to 35 laps for GT1 league is a huge increase.

I don't think GT1 should be that long, but I don't think GT2 and below should be punished with shorter races. Not an incredible concept to understand.

 

[Talon16]

The wheels are already spinning on which Manus I am going to pick. I am going to have to do some practice laps on some of these tracks, but I am thinking for the 2 account leaning towards Dodge. I was thinking either Dodge or Genesis but I am not a huge fan of the Genesis Gr3 car.

I am tired of Toyota and Nissan, maybe McLaren for one of them and the other I am not sure. I've picked Ford before but it's also a solid choice, IMO.

 

[appu]

This is the discussion thread for an article on GTPlanet:

Gran Turismo World Series Exhibition Seasons Begin September 16​

After a long break since the end of the official 2023 Gran Turismo World Series online seasons, Polyphony Digital has announced the start of the Exhibition Series that will tide players over until next year...

You may have made a mistake with "there’s no Gr.4 races at all in the Manufacturers Cup". The biggest point this time is this-

One thing I noticed immediately, is GT1 is using Gr3 and GT2/3 is using Gr4 for rounds 2 and 4. I don't like that.

 

[Michelin Man]

Looks pretty decent for an exhibition season, I like longer races given the organised lobby events I tend to enter, so I'm fine with that. Would have liked GT1 to use a mix of Gr.3 and 4, as it would have given me a chance to more thoroughly test my Manufacturer(s) of choice for the next full season. Given I'm looking to try Ford or VW full time, if I don't revisit Mazda or long time favourites Honda.

With it just Gr.3, it would given me a chance to run the Beetle again, or the '18 Ford GT, so there's some testing needed me thinks 🤔. Pleasantly surprised too see partial tuning will be an option, I definitely like the idea they're testing that 👍.

 

[Yard_Sale]

I mean these aren't mutually exclusive things?

There's a difference between GT1 getting 15 laps vs GT2 getting 7 laps, and GT1 getting 35 laps vs GT2 getting 15.
There's no reason for GT2 to not be 15 instead of 7 - but increasing a race from 15 to 35 laps for GT1 league is a huge increase.

I don't think GT1 should be that long, but I don't think GT2 and below should be punished with shorter races. Not an incredible concept to understand.

But if you go back in the thread, you'll see many examples of the true-to-life GT2/3 guys commenting in hindsight, that they're glad they didn't have to gut through some of the longer races - that the distances for the GT2/3 class was just about perfect. Not to mention, you had many more slots available. Those guys by and large, are casuals. They want no part of hour long races. They want a good distance, and multiple slots.

These changes for GT1, I feel is something that we've been clamoring for. More strategy, more seat time, more consequence for bad decisions.


This is 100% PD deciding to step into the big leagues of E-sports Sim Racing. Good for them!!!

 

[05XR8]

Kind of ironic to have GT2/3 using amateur “GT4” cars when GT racing are all about amatuer/gentlemen drivers in GT4 and GT3 machines.

 

[afc5150]

Not sure if I'll bother with these this time around, seeing A+ drivers already talking about running their alt. accounts in GT2 again.

 

[A_Higher_Place]

Not sure if I'll bother with these this time around, seeing A+ drivers already talking about running their alt. accounts in GT2 again.

Gotta love getting dusted by those shadow A+ drivers with their B ratings. I'll probably participate when I can, but won't fully commit to it like I did the last one. Free extra credits, so why not?

 

[JDMKING13]

Extremely excited for this and we get heavy damage!

 

[Nakano219]

Well, I've made an early decision to try and drive something new this manufacturers season. Surely there's no way this can go as badly as the car's reputation would imply...

 

[Zorz]

I'm terrified thinking of the bloodbath that round 1 of Nations looks likely to turn into.

The balance of the cars available is unbelievably bad. The Ferrari F40 is so much faster than everything else, save for the Lambo Diablo. The braking distances for turn 1 and the hairpin are massive and vary wildly across the cars. It's around the 200m board in the F40 and even further back for the Diablo. If anyone does turn up in something else like the Supra, they can brake around the 150m board.

Add in heavy damage for GT1 and this could be very difficult to survive. And don't get me started on the wicked understeer the F40 has with the throttle down. I never thought the small kinks between the hairpin and start/finish line would actually need attention to take at speed in any car!

 

[05XR8]

Having a browse of the Manu choices. Have the choices always locked out the older alternate GT3 cars? Look like PD locked out the FT-1, older GT3 cars from BMW, No Gr.3 Mustang, no older GT-R, Gr.3 WRX, Gr.3 Golf. I like this.

Edit: Just switched from Toyota to AMG.

 

[Pfei]

After skipping the past couple seasons, this is a schedule I can stomach. GT1 will be fun for the long races and heavy damage.

Although I usually choose outlier manufacturers, this time I will go Nissan since my league just started a Gr.3 season and I was assigned that car.

 

[RacingGrandpa]

Having a browse of the Manu choices. Have the choices always locked out the older alternate GT3 cars? Look like PD locked out the FT-1, older GT3 cars from BMW, No Gr.3 Mustang, no older GT-R, Gr.3 WRX, Gr.3 Golf. I like this.

Edit: Just switched from Toyota to AMG.

You can still use thenolderncars in race if you own them, you just can't pick them from the manu screen.

I am in GT2 or 3 again, but know that there's no way to compete bec6the top 100 at least are going to be artificially drop downs from GT2.
I am happy to not having heavy damage though.
I bet the ones that has been arguing for heavy damage to clean things up will learn it's a double edged sword

 

[05XR8]

You can still use thenolderncars in race if you own them, you just can't pick them from the manu screen.

I am in GT2 or 3 again, but know that there's no way to compete bec6the top 100 at least are going to be artificially drop downs from GT2.
I am happy to not having heavy damage though.
I bet the ones that has been arguing for heavy damage to clean things up will learn it's a double edged sword

Oh well. Shouldn’t have thought PD would try something new with only using the new variants.

 

[Nebuc72]

Did PD just.. forget to balance the cars for the first nations race?

The fastest car (the F40) is 1.5 seconds faster than the 2nd fastest car, the Diablo.
Behind that, the 3rd fastest car is the Ford Gt, 3.5 seconds behind the F40???

I actually don't know what to say, look at this!

 

[Exosum]

What manufacturer would you choose for gt1 league and controller?
Last nations and manufacturer I was almost always last due to tirewear compared to wheel... Few rounds were on edge for wheel players so for me it was usually +1 pit stop = last place usually....

 

[Zorz]

Did PD just.. forget to balance the cars for the first nations race?

The fastest car (the F40) is 1.5 seconds faster than the 2nd fastest car, the Diablo.
Behind that, the 3rd fastest car is the Ford Gt, 3.5 seconds behind the F40???

I actually don't know what to say, look at this!

I reckon it's got to be some kind of attempt at 4D chess, for GT1 at least.

Step 1: Make the new season available.
Step 2: Turn on heavy damage.
Step 3: Don't balance the cars.
Step 4: Make it one of those rounds where the car settings are completely hidden so it's impossible for anyone to practice in race conditions.
Step 5: Wait 2 weeks.
Step 6: The race starts. Virtually everyone is in the F40. Lots of people are likely going to have some fun off the rolling start misjudging their braking points into turn 1 and then later at the hairpin, picking up lasting damage that they'll need to pit to remove.

The person who picked the completely off-meta car strolls through the carnage after starting at the back and being completely outgunned off the line, then laughs as everyone else pits... 🤔😆

Although considering the ridiculous disparity, chances are the F40s would still catch up and overtake by the end...

 

[OJBrit]

I have to say I'm not a fan of no Gr4 in GT1. Why make things even more different? Some Manu's have better Gr4 cars so those particular manu's will be in the cold this season. At least I'm in GT2 so will see some varied grids. Someone really needs to sit down with PD and make sure they're o.k. Just some really bizzare decisions lately.

 

[Cherryturbo]

They need find a way for GT3, for example, not to be ruined by folk who qualify at sign-up then doing all their actual races at DR B and above.

Makes both events a farce and pointless for genuine racers at the requisite level.

 

[Redneckchef]

What manufacturer would you choose for gt1 league and controller?
Last nations and manufacturer I was almost always last due to tirewear compared to wheel... Few rounds were on edge for wheel players so for me it was usually +1 pit stop = last place usually....

Alfa. Fantastic tire wear and really easy to get the power down.

 

[dazdilly75]

Put the date in your diary lads. 8th September 2023 is the day GT7 decided to take definitive stand against dirty drivers, and those who treat racing like a glorified time trial. Imagine, people will actually have to slow down for T1 like they do in real life races, instead of going bowling. Ghosting has been set to strong, which should help clean drivers avoid being rammed by vindictive drivers. Well done P.D. For those who don't like the implementation of heavy damage, I've heard Forza is looking pretty good. Good luck!

 

[LeGeNd-1]

I like long races but wow PD has really gone hardcore this season. N24 10 laps is at least 90 minutes (not including pitstops). If it rains it can easily be a 2 hour race. That's not including quali which takes almost half an hour by itself. You're looking at around 2-2.5 hour time commitment just for this one race I bet lots of people will quit halfway, even at GT1.

Heavy damage is great. From experience, the first few races are going to be bad because of takeouts, but eventually the dirty drivers will get tired of it and we'll see an improvement in driving standards in the long run. This combined with the ultra long races will filter out all of the casual racers and leave only people who want to race seriously. I can't imagine it's good for participation numbers or matchmaking parity (especially in underpopulated regions like Oceania), but if you manage to get a good room, it will be worth it. Can't say the same for GT2/3 rooms though, as I imagine lots of GT1 drivers will sandbag just to avoid the long races and heavy damage.

Shame about no Gr.4 in GT1 though. We need more variety, not less. Also I don't think the adjustable damper settings will make much difference to the pecking order. Ride height/springs/ARB have a much bigger effect on handling. Without being able to change those, the damper adjustments are kinda wasted. Not worth spending hours testing to find the "perfect" setting.

Well, I've made an early decision to try and drive something new this manufacturers season. Surely there's no way this can go as badly as the car's reputation would imply...

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Gr.4 is decent. Not meta but above average. Good on tires and fuel too. Just remember to shift at 3/4 rev bar.
Gr.3 is just plain slow unfortunately and saddled with the typical MR lift off oversteer. Also need to be shifted at 3/4 rev bar.
Good luck and just enjoy it and take the challenge of learning a difficult car. If anything, it's consistently one of the least popular brands so you'll have a bigger chance placing highly in your manu rankings and get more $$$

 

[Talon16]

I reckon it's got to be some kind of attempt at 4D chess, for GT1 at least.

Step 1: Make the new season available.
Step 2: Turn on heavy damage.
Step 3: Don't balance the cars.
Step 4: Make it one of those rounds where the car settings are completely hidden so it's impossible for anyone to practice in race conditions.
Step 5: Wait 2 weeks.
Step 6: The race starts. Virtually everyone is in the F40. Lots of people are likely going to have some fun off the rolling start misjudging their braking points into turn 1 and then later at the hairpin, picking up lasting damage that they'll need to pit to remove.

The person who picked the completely off-meta car strolls through the carnage after starting at the back and being completely outgunned off the line, then laughs as everyone else pits... 🤔😆

Although considering the ridiculous disparity, chances are the F40s would still catch up and overtake by the end...

 

[Yard_Sale]

I too am bummed that there’s going to be no Gr.4 in GT1 this season. I was all set and ready to pick Porsche as my manu knowing full well the cayman sucks ass. Probably still going with Porsche, but I feel a lot of the variety of manufacturers we see in that series, is because guys are willing to make compromises in order to be in a decent car for races that play to their strengths. Hence why last season, you saw a fair amount of Ferrari’s for once.

 

[benjoi84]

Big decision time for me. I'm currently sitting at DR B 93%, and going well at Autopolis this week. So with some effort I could proably make it to A for these and enter the GT1 league. My big worry is the limited time slots and long race commitment might make it difficult to get a suitable time to enter some rounds.

I think the answer could be try and enter one for GT2, and the other for GT1, if I can make it to A.

I have the opposite quandry.

I want to fire up a secondary account in order to find a timezone which has races fitting my schedule better than my current one.

Here's the rub; I'll have to get my secondary up to A to justify it, otherwise I'll be better off just tanking my primary to B and use the expanded time slots instead (which would suit just fine).

Jesus

Edit: just caught up with the thread. Now with the differences between GT1 and the others, I REALLY have to get myself into that category on my new account to make it worth it.

 

[C_Raccoon23]

With GT1 league having heavy damage on, I’m just really going to focus on having fun above all else, especially since this is just an exhibition season as well. It's not worth the stress and frusturation. I am liking the look of longer races though.

That said, at the end of the previous season, I decided for the next one to take a break from Lexus and go with a different manufacturer. And to make things a bit more interesting, I used a randomizer wheel to pick for me. So, after giving it a spin, I will be going with…

 

[Yard_Sale]

I have the opposite quandry.

I want to fire up a secondary account in order to find a timezone which has races fitting my schedule better than my current one.

Here's the rub; I'll have to get my secondary up to A to justify it, otherwise I'll be better off just tanking my primary to B and use the expanded time slots instead (which would suit just fine).

Jesus

Edit: just caught up with the thread. Now with the differences between GT1 and the others, I REALLY have to get myself into that category on my new account to make it worth it.

With the longer races last season, and how much of a hit they were… I figured they were here to stay, so I hustled and got an account in each region up to “A”, just for this very reason. Because of my work schedule, I’ll never be able to do a full season on one account. But I should be able to participate in a full season, between my 3 accounts