Gran Turismo World Series (Nations Cup 2025 Exhibition Season 3: 15 Oct - 1 Nov)

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Tried the next on in the Red Bull.

Oh my, this won't go down smoothly with people's SR, especially in lower lobbies. Even if people try to be fair, there will be a lot of accidents in my opinion.

Curious that CSA is forbidden but ASM is ok. I might even try that.
 
Suzuka was as fun as the previous matching daily race was, but eventful. Had four tries. No Qt and finished 9th first go, then two horrid experiences, dropping my DR and SR down a bit. Kept getting notched up into stronger lobbies with the bonus in my last race of dubious SR amongst the lobby. NO QT again. The start was amazingly clean with just one spinner in the esses. A lap or two later it was like dominoes falling, with some help from two drivers making a bad call to come in for wet weather tires for a brief but heavy splotch of rain. Running Porsche all the way with this one meant I I could get the power down in the wet and stay ahead of everyoone I had gotten around and held on for 5th and 78pts from 14th.
More of one of my favorite cars ever at no chicane Monza, that's good. Reading about the lap one carnage, that's bad. No QT attempt again, with the confidence of a really good free practice time of 1:26.6. Start 16th, two positions made up at the chicane. Thn up to 11th by Parabolica. A few more laps and its 5th and I'm more than content with finishing there. Instead I'm reeling in 4th and then up into 3rd and 56 pts out of 62. Make a dumb mistake out of Ascari with P4 close enough behind on lap 11, Kudos to him as he naturally ended with a great run into the chicane and we both left each other room side by side through it and I amazingly hung on from there for third. I can't tell you how mad I am though that I had no room for the save though.
 
Bondwhar
Sadly after 3 attempts and being booted out by the server 3 times I leave this race with a big fat zero. Also DR and SR take a hit as the ‘machine’ thinks I quit!!! 🙃
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I was already thinking it was our national Iron Curtain that was at work, but I see the problem in both the UK and Italy. I only got error CE-210381. I also couldn't get into any of the last four slots yesterday, resulting in 0 points for stage 3. What's more annoying is that this race seemed like the most fun for me.
 
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I absolutely loved this combo! One and done for me. Building up a new account to A+ currently at about 40K DR. So thought I'd use this Nations campaign to get some races in. I've never driven the 962C until now and I bonded with it immediately. TT was a respectable 1:25.417 So I had high hopes for this race.

 
I had no pace (rarely do at Monza) but somehow managed to survive the bump-drafting and go from 11th to 6th in 2nd split. That was more than enough for me.

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Congratz!
I managed to get from 14th in qualifiers to 6th in the race. Was so upset that I lost 5th by my own mistakes on a last two lap (0.500 penalty during 11/12 and got so pissed I drove on a dirt once) that I haven't saved it but +8 positions is pretty cool. Aside of first two laps carnage, ex. first chicane got from 14th to 9 :P, it was really clear race, and guy that I competed with for 5th also had great sportsmanship and he let me through when I was faster, so also I did the same when got stopped I drove all the way to the right. Not like some wankers that are pretending to ram you with their ghost car.
Overall fun race but had problems with pacing as well.
Now this loooong Red Bull race on reverted Highway 1, with tires management might be an interesting one.
 
1st race I was kicked out from the server when I was P4.
2nd I was kicked out from the server when I was P2.
3rd race I was spun by two different drivers and finished at P11.
I take it and I will try to forget the soonest as possible.
 
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Just a public service announcement: Take note that the 'Require Tire Type Change' setting is set to 'On' for this round at Grand Valley, which means that you are required to use two of the three tire types. The setting is buried in the 'Race settings' section of the details page, not anywhere on the main entry screen.

Personally, I'll be running the first slot on Saturday to take advantage of all the drivers who miss that detail.
 
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Moose78
Just a public service announcement: Take note that this has the 'Require Tire Type Change' setting to 'On' for this round at Grand Valley, which means that you are required to use two of the three tire types. The setting is buried in the 'Race settings' section of the details page, not anywhere on the main entry screen.

Personally, I'll be running the first slot on Saturday to take advantage of all the drivers who miss that detail.
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With 30 laps and 4x tire consumption, I am wondering if medium + soft is the right choice or a combination between hard + medium.
I am not really fast so I am wondering if soft could really improve my performance.

I remember last time that all 3 types were to be used and I started with Hard because at T1 there is always a sort of carnage and the first lap the battles between cars keep the pace a little bit low, so Hard worked perfectly for me.
However changing to medium after 2 laps forced me to put soft quite before the end and arriving at the end with not so much tire available.
 
For anybody who needs a refresher, these were the predicted strategies from the live stream prior to the race in London:
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I haven't taken the time to go back and check what Serrano and Urra did, but I remember it wasn't any of these. I also remember that what they did required god-like tire-saving skills. Maybe not for the rest of us plebs.

EDIT: I just checked the live stream recording, Serrano and Urra both did a 20RM-10RS strategy.
 
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I've done custom race based on Saturday's race conditions (fuel x1, tires x4, 30 laps).

Seems softs can be good for around 11-12 laps, mids - up to 20. I play on controller so with wheel it can be different. I started on softs and had like 1:35 top lap, while later on mids 1:34. Most probably I was just smoother later in the race. Anyways, cars in custom race might be bit slower than ones in nations as in later training to actual race I managed to go 1:29. It seems like I'll go 20 mids-pit-10 softs, with no additional fuel needed. Overall, it takes around 50 mins, pretty demanding race to be concentrated this long with such speeds. Definitely will be super interesting and doubt that everyone will finish it:)

BTW. ai (pro level) switched mid tires around 25'th lap and those were almost all red... and then one of them had like 1:23 best lap time. My +15 seconds heads-up after one lap it got cut to like +6 :P Though I think it's a fake and console just wanted me to have more interesting race and cheated a bit as I believe even best players can't go this low.
 
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Hiponiak
BTW. ai (pro level) switched mid tires around 25'th lap and those were almost all red... and then one of them had like 1:23 best lap time. My +15 seconds heads-up after one lap it got cut to like +6 :P Though I think it's a fake and console just wanted me to have more interesting race and cheated a bit as I believe even best players can't go this low.
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You're 100% correct. If you take the lead of a race the AI will boost to catch you up. The bigger your lead the more they boost.

You can prevent this by adding a fast car that you will never overtake (for example, the Chaparral). If you are in P2 then the boosting doesn't happen.

Works with Sophy too, and Sophy is pretty fast in the Red Bull. If you put Sophy into the 2014 version they will even start on soft tyres. I used it to practice round one. Just make sure Sophy is set to Boost 'Weak' in the custom race settings.
 
Moose78
EDIT: I just checked the live stream recording, Serrano and Urra both did a 20RM-10RS strategy.
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I remember there was a similar race in world-series-nations-cup-2024/5-exhibition, but you had to use all three compounds. I don't remember how many laps I did, but it was something like 30% RS, 69% RM, and I used RH on the last lap, so I support the 20RM-10RS strategy.
 
First test in at GVH.

Running this on 1-stop strategy is way over my paygrade.
Now, the decision is how many laps should I do on mediums? Did 16 in the test and the drop in laptimes toward the end was noticable.
On the other hand running more than 8 laps on softs is clearly asking for trouble.
Will have to try again to work that out.

Oh, and it is easy to infringe pit lane entry here if you don't position yourself correctly after last corner exit, so be mindful about that.

P.S. I ran without ASM and steering sensitivity on 5 (TCS on 1 though), it's easier that way when it's not wet apparently... 😅
 
Just finished a full distance run doing the 1-stop in 45:00. That needs a lot of patience. Taking corners a gear higher once the tyres start feeling uncomfortable helps keep things steady. I also did it with BB-5 hoping to try preserve the rears by any means possible.

tmtk
First test in at GVH.

Running this on 1-stop strategy is way over my paygrade.
Now, the decision is how many laps should I do on mediums? Did 16 in the test and the drop in laptimes toward the end was noticable.
On the other hand running more than 8 laps on softs is clearly asking for trouble.
Will have to try again to work that out.
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Yeah, the drop off in laptimes is pretty severe. To give everyone a data sample:

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I don't think there's any getting away from running on heavily worn tyres in this one unless you take Hards, and that's probably going to feel just as bad anyway. Everyone's going to be in the same boat though.

If the 1-stop feels too much, maybe 14M-8S-8S (or some variant thereof) will be the best bet.
 
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I am sure we did a similar race a while ago and for the early/first few slots I made the 2 stop work for a decent result but the later ones (probably where my DR had improved and everyone was dialled in better) the 1 stop was better especially with the attrition rate this combo has
 
stpatty
I think driving the X2019 with the brake balance all the way to the front is the only way, even if you'
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stpatty
I think driving the X2019 with the brake balance all the way to the front is the only way, even if you're an alien.
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Best to try different settings and see how that darn fast machine handles. Good luck everyone 💪🏻
As a low to mid DR B racer I will definitely need some TC 😇
 
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Tried ASM on. Weird it really doesn't feel good.

Without stability management i feel the front tyres turning and a lot of grip (with TC) in the back. With it on it feels like the car just turns in the middle of the vehicle like an arcade game. I get more over- and understeer due to not getting it right.

I'm at least a second slower with ASM on.

BTW, is 1:28:5 ok in a low B lobby?
 
I've done some of my usual strategy testing. Results below.

Disclaimer: I feel it is necessary to mention right off the top that this reverse direction of the track is pretty much entirely new to me, especially driving the X2019 here. I've figured out a way to drive around the track. It's slower than @Zorz's, but that's normal. I seem to be seeing stronger effects of tire wear on my lap times than he did. This is probably a quirk of how I'm driving. This is all to say, take all these results with a grain of salt. What is true for me and my way of driving may not be for you.

I did test stints on each tire compound -- 10RS, 20RM, and 13RH -- in Custom Races against one AI driver, with the fuel and tire multipliers matching this round's. For weather, I picked early morning with S05.

I did a couple runs each of 10RS, 20RM stints. From those, I fabricated 'optimal' stints by picking the fastest of each lap. I only had time (and interest) for one run of 13RH. That's why the chart has a few spikes in it -- mistakes were made.

Summary:
Tire compoundLapsOpt timeBest timeAvg timeTotal time
RS
10​
1:28.719​
1:28.808​
1:30.211​
15:02.113​
RM
20​
1:29.600​
1:29.689​
1:31.085​
30:21.695​
RH
13​
1:30.882​
1:30.965​
1:32.227​
19:58.945​
Tire tread levels a finish:
Tire compoundLapsFront LeftFront RightRear LeftRear Right
RS
10​
35%​
25%​
20%​
10%​
RM
20​
35%​
25%​
20%​
5%​
RH
13​
70%​
65%​
60%​
55%​

Lap times:
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Simulated strategies:

Using these lap times, I can simulate various strategies for a full race. I assumed an additional pit loss of 17 seconds for the 2-pit strategies, which was an estimate based on the lap times @Zorz posted yesterday. I simulated 38 strategies in total. These were 5 fastest:

StrategyStint 1Stint 2Stint 3Additional pit lossTotal time
10RS-20RM
15:02.113​
30:21.695​
45:23.808​
9RS-9RS-12RM
13:30.029​
13:30.029​
18:06.991​
0:17.000​
45:24.049​
9RS-8RS-13RM
13:30.029​
11:59.557​
19:38.368​
0:17.000​
45:24.954​
10RS-9RS-11RM
15:02.113​
13:30.029​
16:35.914​
0:17.000​
45:25.056​
8RS-8RS-14RM
11:59.557​
11:59.557​
21:10.055​
0:17.000​
45:26.169​

I'm surprised at how close the 9RS-9RS-12RM strategy is to the 10RS-20RM one. There are lots of caveats, of course, but for me, it looks like a 2-stop is viable. It would give me more options in the race, and avoid some of the dangers of driving on totally bald tires. It seems like it might be the right choice for me.

EDIT: All of the raw data can be found in this spreadsheet.
 
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Carpocalypse
Not sure if this is the thread for the live streams, but this just got posted today:
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Prize cars for next month's streams.
Supra RZ 97 in Super Red Ⅳ and RX7 GT-X FC '90 in Crystal White.

Both aren't rare cars, really, but you were previously unable to get zero mile versions, to my knowledge.

Source: Receive Two Rare Zero-mileage Japanese Sports Car Tickets With the Gran Turismo World Series 2025 Round 3 – Los Angeles, Viewers Gift Campaign!
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You can get a zero-mile FC RX-7 from golding all Beyond the Horizon missions (in white, to boot) and the Supra during Menu Book 32 (Race of Turbo Sports at Suzuka) at the beginning of the game.
 
KAlex122
Tried ASM on. Weird it really doesn't feel good.

Without stability management i feel the front tyres turning and a lot of grip (with TC) in the back. With it on it feels like the car just turns in the middle of the vehicle like an arcade game. I get more over- and understeer due to not getting it right.

I'm at least a second slower with ASM on.

BTW, is 1:28:5 ok in a low B lobby?
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I’m a low DRB and just managed a 1:27.520 which I’m amazed about 🤭
 

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