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Well, that started out mediocre and was going just as well despite some Swiss tit in a Castrol Supra hitting me five times in the first six corners...

... until I got hit out of nowhere into turn one and lost three places, then - despite him ceding the place and apologising - the same guy tried to Verstappen line me through turn four and ended up not only running me off the road but running himself into the inside wall.
 
Not having much joy tonight. 911 feels very off the pace here and I’m just feeling slow out of the last corner up the hill and loosing a lot of time. Have been punted out twice now out of pure desperation.

One more slot to go to recover a good result 🙏🏼
 
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Not having much joy tonight. 911 feels very off the pace here and I’m just feeling slow out of the last corner up the hill and loosing a lot of time. Have been punted out twice now out of pure desperation.

One more slot to go to recover a good result 🙏🏼
Don’t try and force it, just flow and don’t over race or fight the places. It is what it is take your points bud
 
Well I went for the evening slots to try and master my Round 2 race and it kinda paid off bar some argy bargy all the race from some pesky drivers!

GTWS Manu cup Round 2 - EMEA REGION - GT3 League - 8pm slot - LEXUS RCF '17 GT3 - RM TYRES - 12 LAPS

Went into the practice and was only doing high 1:35 times on Interlagos and waited for the long qualy session.

Into the qualifying session and managed to get a solid 1:34 time and that pipped me up to 3rd place with a solid standing, then took a break as it felt overly long, one bonus of this was I had more time to groove into the car, get my rhythm and pace it well enough with the Lexus.

Back out again and got one more lap in which helped but I was pipped by an italian racer so came in 4th for qualy, onto the race!

Race start, we all get off good, a BMW dived in turn 1 on lap1, i was like arlight mate calm down lol. Then speeed up and passed him over the straight, he got a bit dodgy with me on the next few corners. Pushing in 4th place I kept the LExus up to keeeping pace with leaders. Only a 0.8 secs gap was with them over the first 2-3laps. Pushing the car hard, I managed to get up to 3rd place and hold that.

Was battling a few porsches tryin to play catchup on me in laps 4+5, but I kept hustling and tryin to run away at speed. Then this Porsche driver decided to push to pass on me and gained the upper hand, so I pushed back and chased, it really is annoyin that drivers belive this is the best way to gain a place, stop doing it it so annoying!

Some more ary bargy and then I cut the first corner in lap 7 and it cost me a hefty 1sec penalty, that made me loss places from 4th as the rest of the pack caught me up and I was 7th now. All the more laps I kept chasing and pushing the Lexus to gain me a few spots.

On the 2nd to last lap, a penalty was given to the BMW so I gained a place to 6th. Held that on the final lap and really chased a lambo to almost pip him to 5th place, but it wasnt meant to be.

Overall a good solid race, if it were not for the dopey harsh penalties, I felt my finish cud be a high 3rd or 2nd place.
Bring on Catalunya as my lobby racing is good for that. Keep racing well folks!!

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A general racing question...

I've been doing some custom races against Sophy (boost set to 'weak') to practice for today's race. I've been finding that Sophy is much more adventurous than the regular AI when it come to diving into corners, especially at T4. On more than one occasion, I left the door open, not seen the dive coming, turned in on car, and PIT maneuvered myself. I'm finding that if I want to protect against that, I need to get defensive, and take the inside line into any corner where I'm being followed closely.

But that's gotten me thinking. How close is 'closely'? How far back does an attacker need to be before I can stop worrying about a dive being viable? Do any of you have a rule of thumb for when you defend? The approach I've been adopting in my practice races is to defend if a car is any less than 0.6 seconds behind. I'm curious if there are other ways of approaching it. Thoughts?

Good luck to everybody who has yet to race!
Interesting question...
Honestly I have never thought about a specific time distance, but more the style and speed in approaching me.

Watching in the mirror you can see or better perceive the speed that the following driver is having approaching you and just as sensation you can understand if that speed is reasonable for that part of the track or not.
I mean if before there was a good straight it is possible that its speed is due to the aerodynamic advantage but if we are approaching a low speed curve and his speed is not normal that it means that I am becoming his target...

So the difficult part for me is to keep an eye about what it is happening behind while I am trying to keep my trajectory.
Honestly the good drivers approach you in a firm but clean way because they are fast and they know that can overtook soon or later, so no need to do extreme e desperate movement.

Beyond the speed there is also a sort of style in approaching you from behind that clearly show superiority or just kid at the wheel...

I entered the 12pm EST GT2 slot and had a heck of a time qualifying. I was in P12 until about 2 minutes left where I shot up to P7.

But it didn't matter as some idiot took offense to me passing them and dumped me on the pit exit straight. Good job dummy. So I go on to finish P12 and will need to run it again at 3pm as I have some errands to run.

Here is the incident. Now, I did slightly hit them, but we could have gone on our merry way.


With the logic of "after" if you should have been on the left side from the begging (let say the internal part) and so you would have avoided the contact.
The fact that you overtook from the right side with two wheels on the grass it has been perceived as too aggressive (even if for me you are doing a quite proper movement).

For sure the gentle touch on your left rear end part of the car is a classic to spin the other one without huge problem for whom is doing that. It has been done by purpose.

Just a separate note I am happy to see another one with the Ford... so I am feeling little bit less alone... :)
 
(incidentally @Zorz if I'm qualifying faster than you I wouldn't bother going again mate, no offense)
Hah, none taken. 😅 Although I didn't see this until after I did go again, so... The second attempt was still damn painful, although I did come away with a better result. Not by skill, mind, just by luck.

This time I qualified P14 with a 1:32.724 and didn't get punted off on lap 1. Already an improvement. A Mazda unsettled itself riding the kerb through turn 3 and spun, so up to P13. A Lexus was then serving a penalty which moved me up to P12.

Lap 2 saw a Mercedes repeat the Mazda's mistake, so now P11 but with a gap to P10. I eventually closed it on lap 3, but then was back in the position I found myself in on slot 1; absolutely at my limit just barely able to keep up. I briefly moved up to P10 after a fight with the McLaren I scuffled with in slot 1 through Descida do Lago. I was on the inside for Ferradura, and he tried to take it very tight, turned in on me and bounced off. I'm assuming he expected me to back out but I was reasonably alongside.

The McLaren got the position back at Esse on lap 6 after aggressively diving in. We'd lost the tow to the train in front and I couldn't get it back. Maybe I might have been able to go side-by-side but in VR I just couldn't judge it and stopped turning in to avoid a collision. That also let the Lexus through again as well.

I had to go super-defensive into turn 1 on lap 7 due to a BMW right up my bumper. I hold it, but then coming out of turn 3 the McLaren drops it, goes into a full-blown tank slapper and veers left hard shoving me off into the wall. That immediately dropped me to P12, then P13 shortly after crawling along with aero and suspension damage.

Fast forward to lap 12 and a Porsche has dropped it at turn 3, then the Mazda from earlier got a 3 second penalty for punting the Lexus off at Descida do Lago.

P11, 155 points. It's been a bad round, but I'll take it. This was the round I was dreading most after the schedule went up. I just don't get the flow at Interlagos and I've always seriously disliked races like this. How I managed to get a P3 in the Interlagos sprint round in last year's official season still boggles me.

The game doesn't feel good to me when the aggression goes through the roof. Give me a longer, more strategic race any day.

 
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I actually got to grips with Interlagos this week in a way I've never managed before. I've always been good through the first sector, but I've finally figured out how to not run wide at turn 4 or Is That Glock? corner. Maybe it's the bop making the car slower and easier, but I definitely found it easier to push the car here than in the race a few weeks ago.
 
First online race in some months and first GTWS in forever. I didn't realize that they added later time slots. The 7 pm ones of the past didn't work for me.

GT2 EMEA

I first hopped into free practice. I quickly began doing steady 33s and felt ready.

Race 1, 10 pm ECT
I was door 16 in a 105 or so point lobby and prepared for the worst. It went pretty well though. Lots of mid 33s pace however meant that I was in danger.

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My biggest weaknesses are consistency and being error free in general and staying cool under pressure as well as adjusting my lines in traffic or when defending in races.

And oh well. 3 penalties in this race meant good bye top 3.

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Off to race 2 then. The last available slot.

This time I was door 3 in a 101 point lobby. I was able to improve on my pace and finally managed to take the final exit somewhat reliably. If I could hold off P2 I had a chance to cruise away to victory.

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Their livery was quite intimidating.
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I defended decently for the first 2 laps. Then I botched Senna S and had a terrible exit which allowed them to pull along my inside towards T4. I tried to stick it to the outside but had to let them go. Unfortunately I bumped their rear approaching the 3rd hairpin. They made the corner but were compromised. I then made sure to not overtake them but lifted way too much which allowed P3 to catch up and put pressure on me. Again I lost my cool and got a penalty. I was now in P4. Luckily P2 and P3 were battling hard but I kept making tiny mistakes. I still slowly got closer. I then decided to take this screenshot in game.
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Unfortunately this was a very dumb decision because I now completely missed my breaking point for T4 and even went off track for another .5 second penalty. Fortunately (for me at least) the battling in front led to the Spaniard crashing after Senna S which secured me a hard earned P3.
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It was great fun and I will be back for more if the late slots are a mainstay now.

And also the Huracan seems to be quite high up the BoP rankings once again which probably helped quite a bit here.
 
I actually don't mind the longer quali. Maybe not 18 mins, though. The fact there was a lot of time meant people weren't in such a hurry to get out and get a lap in; everyone was quite spread out which is obviously. It was also kinda cool seeing everyone improve as the qualifying went on. I think everyone ended up where they should have.

THat being said, if they're going to allot 40 mins for quali + race I'd rather see more if it racing. Qualifying session 19.5mins (18mins + 90 second runoff) and the race itself is over in under 19 mins.
 
With the logic of "after" if you should have been on the left side from the begging (let say the internal part) and so you would have avoided the contact.
The fact that you overtook from the right side with two wheels on the grass it has been perceived as too aggressive (even if for me you are doing a quite proper movement).

For sure the gentle touch on your left rear end part of the car is a classic to spin the other one without huge problem for whom is doing that. It has been done by purpose.

Just a separate note I am happy to see another one with the Ford... so I am feeling little bit less alone... :)
Looking back, I should have went left. But, in my mind I thought the car that spun me had way less speed and I could sneak by easily. I'll need to be smarter about that stuff in the future. I think I've been the only Ford in the grid for all of my races so far. There's dozens of us! Dozens!
 
Ran the last 5 GT2 slots tonight to finish off the trophy for 50 Sport mode races. First 3 got better finishes each time (49, 50, 51pts), last 2, not so much (40pts). Field got faster and faster as the night wore on.

Did get the following however;
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I can now forget about GTWS and Sport mode dailies in their entirety. Go me.

Good luck to everyone for the rest of the season! :cheers:
 
Standings after round 2:
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Battle for the cutline:
PosMakePointsGap
9​
Nissan
131.333​
33.333​
10​
Ferrari
121.333​
23.333​
11​
McLaren
114.333​
16.333​
12​
Honda
100​
2​
13​
Genesis
98​
-2​
14​
Subaru
96​
-4​
15​
Peugeot
80​
-20​
16​
Jaguar
57​
-43​
 
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For the record, I do not like Interlagos at all, and I have another reason to add to the list:

People who brake WAY too early going in to Turn 1. Accidentally punted two people off track (yes, I know it's my fault, not trying to abdicate blame here) and caught the penalties because I couldn't avoid them quick enough - magical-nonexistent-sky-daddy knows I tried.

Qualified 10th, Finished 10th in GT3, Americas, first slot of the day, should still be good enough to maintain my position atop both my local area and hyper-local area in GT3. It helps when you're one of only a half-handful of people haha.

Hats off to whoever is trying to run this in the JGTC NSX, too.
 
I ran the first GT1 slot in the Americas (8 PM EDT). I was in door #11 driving for Jaguar in an all-A/S lobby (@Canucks_9419 was there, too; good to see you!). There were 180 points up for grabs. I need a top-10 finish to improve over last race.

Qualifying was fine. Final time was 1:33:270, about a tenth off my best in Free Practice. That was good for Q10.

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The race got off to a clean start, but I ended up dropping several spots over the course of the first lap. Down to P14.

I gained them all back on lap 3, weaseling my way through some chaos at the end of the lap. Back to P10.

It was mostly processional from there. There was never much of a gap ahead or behind. Constant action. I never had a chance to relax.

I picked up a few spot here and there to drivers who had crashed or taken penalties. I even managed a legitimate overtake at T1 (or maybe they just let me by).
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When it was all said and done, I crossed the line in P7 for 135. I'll take it. First top-10 finish in a while.
 
Found myself completely lacking pace in early morning attempts in GT2, 1:33.5xx was the best I could manage. I simply didn't have top 10 pace, but managed an 8th on my third attempt by just running a clean race. Not looking forward to GT1 later with that slow pace...

Switched accounts, and out of nowhere I found another 0.5s, very quickly down to a 1:33.0xx in pre-race practice. Only had time for one shot at the event at 6pm, qualified 11th. Superficially the race was almost as boring as the Japanese GP, very processional with barely any overtaking, moved from 11th to 8th as the result of incidents or penalties for others, and that was it.

Did have one brief moment of excitement as a car in front lost it right in front of me.

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In reality I actually enjoyed driving it a lot more expected, all the incidents were in the first 4 laps, from there on it was all about keeping up the pace, with a little defending. Which actually made it quite an enjoyable challenge race, the constant pressure from behind meant any slight let up in pace, and I'd have one or more cars trying to pass.

A few times my pursuer got close enough I had drive a little defensive, he even briefly got past into Descida do Lago, but I quickly took the place back on exit with a switchback.

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Did one of these on the AO account yesterday morning and, I must say, it was an absolute joy of a race. Not because it was 12 laps, not because it was an RM no strat, but because the drivers around me were of a similar pace (maybe due to the longer qual?) and all had very good race craft. The whole race was 4-5 of us line astern and everyone got their inputs right every turn over every lap. That makes all the difference.

My pace at Interlagos is horrible and I do not know why. Despite me enjoying the track and putting in what I feel are good laps, I am ~.500" slower than people in my friend's list I should be near... every time. I didn't do many practice laps as I figured the 18 min quali session would be enough; put in a 32.6 (maybe 32.7 I don't recall) which put me Q5.

Senna esses lap one a Lambo looses it, up to P4. Next few laps were fighting with a white Honda; after a few laps was able to get them going into T1 after a fake to the outside and going inside. Honda driver left room, braked plenty early, and tucked in behind for the esses. P3.

The AMG and other Honda were fighting quite a bit, which was good for me as it allowed me to catch up over the course of a couple laps. Lap seven, the Honda gets squirrely coming out of the final left (is that really considered Glock corner? If so that's hilarious) which causes the AMG driver to have to check-up. I then get a run and take P2.

Pretty close to the Honda now as going into T4 he goes wide and gets loose again, the AMG and I go through and I am in P1. That P1 lasted about five seconds when I went a bit wide going into the double rights. The AMG driver, to his credit, was able to just get up the inside of my Pug as we went side-by-side through both of the right kinks (T6 & T7) and ensuing sharp right (T8). I was really hoping to make it stick around the outside of T8 and have the inside of T9, but I was not and conceded the position to the AMG.

Over the next four laps I tried to get that place back but the AMG driver did just enough to get it done. Despite me being ~.500"-800" behind for the remainder of the race he didn't put a foot wrong so it was a P2 for me.

Still more of a Daily C than worthy of a WS event but whatever. GGs to all, very good and respectful racing by all.

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I decided late to participate and went Last minute into the 22:00 european race, still C/S. Without practice I chose Aston Martin because I like the livery I made (yes, it is soccer-related...) and ignored all the intense testing of @Moose78 (really appreciate your effort!).
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Usually I qualify quite well and end up mid-field due to some unforced errors. This time I was door #2 and was quite off the pace. A 33.8xx gave me starting position 11 and I was afraid of a complete desaster with the unknown car.

The start went well and everyone was as careful as possible. There were some minor incidents but nothing terrible. During the first 4 laps there were some spins and penalties that lead after one regular overtaking to place 5. The Aston is very stable and smooth to drive so I avoided massive faults.

In lap 9 one of the faster Porsche spun and I was in Position 4! While the third pulled constantly away the german Porsche driver kept close between 0.3 and 1.0 seconds away.
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He is a Gentleman driver and kept it clean until the end and so it was real good fun with a happy ending in my side.
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No idea about the points as I drive for fun and only care about the credits... See ya at Barcelona!
 
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Started my season with Round 2. Couldn't get the qualifying time I wanted but got lucky and was able to move up and finish in the top half. I think with this current bop changes it may be a little harder to pass in a lot of the races but we'll see.
 
Slot 1: qualified P10 and finished P9 for 23 DR and 229 points
Slot 2: qualified P12 and finished P12 for -455 DR and 19x points
Slot 3: qualified P12 and finished P16 after being taken out at the Senna S on lap two. - 15xx DR and don't even know the abysmal amount of points.

A night to forget.
 
Are there any sites out there that provided analysis of the GTWS results and standings? I'm wondering how many people are taking part in each round, how many in each time slot? Is it even possible to see how many have entered the championship, the overall standings only show the first 100, is there a way to see beyond that?

I can see there is room for some clever code to parse all the standings by country and region, then glue those together for an overall picture of the numbers.

It would also be interesting to be able parse the standings by different rules than top 5 of 6 rounds. What if they only counted 3 or 4, it would help drives who couldn't do 5 or 6 get a better picture of where they belong.
 
That was some good fun yesterday, oddly timed qualifying length aside!

NA GT1 Slot 1 - 180ish Pts on Deck - Door #15

Quali went reasonably well, I'm still getting to grips with how heavy the NSX has gotten. :scared: I appreciated the extra time, but I think 10 minutes would have been a happy medium to go with instead. A 1:33.1xx landed me P8.

Right from the start some argy-bargy ahead netted me a couple gained spots leaving the Senna Esses lap 1, a lot of this race ended up being about consistency and avoiding penalties it seems. People taking penalties ahead and behind meant the race didn't truly start to settle until the last 3rd or so, I just decided to focus on staying penalty free.

Finished P4 for 157 Pts! I'm happy so far with the decision to run Honda, as I am also running it in celebration of starting a new job with them tomorrow! As always, it was also a pleasure to race again with @Moose78 ! Onwards and upwards to Catalunya!
 
It wouldn't be Sunday without some strategy tests. I took my Jaguar for a few sessions at Catalunya to figure out what the optimal strategy is for me at Wednesday's race. It turns out 1RH-17RM. None of my laps on RM were slower than my best lap on RH, so there's no point doing any more than the minimum on RH.

I'm pretty slow on the track, though, so I might be easier on the tires than some of you faster guys. You might get different results if you try it yourself in whatever car you're driving.

I did 17-lap tests on the RM, but only 10 on RH:
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RM171:43.2591:43.5051:44.00129:28.014
RH101:44.4021:44.5661:44.95317:29.531

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On friday i did a practice session which went quite well. At the end of it i was pretty confident i know how to do a fast lap. My best was a 1:32.872.

But on race day ...

race 1
GT2 | 117 pts | EMEA Slot 1 | 911 RSR | door 6

During the qualy i've completely forgotten everything i did the day before! My best lap was only a 1:33.793. That put me in P13.
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The race itself went pretty ok. Due to several guys spinning i gained several positions. As i reached P8 i was behind a goup of 3 cars. But at the exit of turn 8 i was too early on the throttle, spun and lost 3 positions. I could fight back to P9. But more wasnt possible.
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race 2
GT2 | 120 pts | EMEA Slot 2 | 911 RSR | door 15

This time qulay was a bit better, but not great. A 1:33.431 gave me P9.
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The start went well, but than came turn 8 again. This time a Ferrari turned me over.
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In lap 1 that meant of course i was DFL!
But i didn't wanted to go for a 3rd race, so head down and full throttle!
From that point on the race was quite enjoyable.
I gained some positions by other peoples problems, but also by some overtakes.
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But more than again P9 wasn't possible in that short race.
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In the end a bit dissapointing. And i know i'm useless in Catalunya ...

On thing i can add is, i didn't felt the Porsche was underpowered compared to the rest of the field. In my case the problem sad definitely behind the wheel!
 

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It wouldn't be Sunday without some strategy tests. I took my Jaguar for a few sessions at Catalunya to figure out what the optimal strategy is for me at Wednesday's race. It turns out 1RH-17RM. None of my laps on RM were slower than my best lap on RH, so there's no point doing any more than the minimum on RH.

I'm pretty slow on the track, though, so I might be easier on the tires than some of you faster guys. You might get different results if you try it yourself in whatever car you're driving.

I did 17-lap tests on the RM, but only 10 on RH:
Tire compoundLapsOpt timeBest timeAvg timeTotal time
RM171:43.2591:43.5051:44.00129:28.014
RH101:44.4021:44.5661:44.95317:29.531

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Thanks for your detailed analysis as always.
My experience at Catalunya is quite poor because I didn't like so much the track and I drove the minimum required.

So yesterday some tests with quite slow time (around 1:45 / 46).
I checked some best drivers replay and I noticed how the people don't use breaks at all in the last 2 turns before the finish line... and I am not getting the entrance point in both yet...

However I am already scared about the "bomb-car" I will see at T1, T4, T5, T6, T7, T8, T9, etc... (did I miss any other?)

Moreover I went over some green area on the curbs and sometime I god 0.5 penalty. It is not really clear to me till where to push.

So I expect a surviving race, where RH tires are not really nice, RM tire could last 17 laps but the last 3-4 laps the breaking points and curve speed will be quite different, this also will help not taking the car in the proper part of the curb and then penalties... if you still survived by people overtaking you using your car for braking or keeping the trajectory...

I am not betting any penny to increase my ranking thanks to this race...
 
It wouldn't be Sunday without some strategy tests. I took my Jaguar for a few sessions at Catalunya to figure out what the optimal strategy is for me at Wednesday's race. It turns out 1RH-17RM. None of my laps on RM were slower than my best lap on RH, so there's no point doing any more than the minimum on RH.

I'm pretty slow on the track, though, so I might be easier on the tires than some of you faster guys. You might get different results if you try it yourself in whatever car you're driving.

I did 17-lap tests on the RM, but only 10 on RH:
Tire compoundLapsOpt timeBest timeAvg timeTotal time
RM171:43.2591:43.5051:44.00129:28.014
RH101:44.4021:44.5661:44.95317:29.531

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Tire tread levels at finish
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Where in the game do you do these tests? Do you start your own multplayer lobby or a single player time trial without BoP applied?
 
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