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Since we're doing Rolling Starts at Spa again in the x2019 Red Bull, wonder if it'll be like before in the 2023/24 Exhibition where all the drivers start before the final chicane since we're not using Grid Starts like last year's 2024 Series.


Honestly wouldn't be opposed to it if they do. The disadvantage from starting in the chicane is horrible.

I just hope I don't have the car behind going full send into the bus stop right off the start like I did last time. Easily the fastest I've ever seen someone get a penalty.

Didn't hit me, but did hit the car in front of me and immediately break the train to the cars in front before we'd even made it onto the straight to start lap 1 proper...
 
A quick update on strategy testing. I've done a few more tests, which has smoothed out the data a fair bit, but hasn't affected the overall ordering of the strategies. The 8RS-13RM-1RH strategy is still at the top of the list in my simulated races. Updated tables and charts in the SPOILER section below.

Tire compoundLapsOpt timeBest timeAvg timeTotal time
RS81:49.3891:51.3591:51.90914:55.274
RM131:50.4281:52.3951:52.78424:26.195
RH81:51.5151:53.4191:53.48015:07.841
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Tire tread levels at finish:
Tire compoundLapsFront leftFront rightRear leftRear right
RS835%40%15%15%
RM1345%45%30%30%
RH875%75%65%65%

Simulated strategies (by least total time):
StrategyTotal time
8RS-13RM-1RH41:13.483
8RS-12RM-2RH41:13.676
7RS-13RM-2RH41:14.160
7RS-12RM-3RH41:14.262
6RS-13RM-3RH41:15.240
6RS-12RM-4RH41:15.602
5RS-12RM-5RH41:16.665
5RS-13RM-4RH41:16.757
4RS-12RM-6RH41:18.511
4RS-13RM-5RH41:18.533
3RS-13RM-6RH41:19.977
3RS-12RM-7RH41:20.116

Full details in this spreadsheet.
 
I was too tired to do that first round at Road Atlanta between work and my acting class. In fact, I was initially thinking of foregoing this entire season for multiple reasons, like how two rounds use the same courses as the Manufacturers Cup (Suzuka and Spa-Francorchamps), two rounds both use the X2019, and so on. However, it turns out that the best GT2 driver in my state only has a score of 74, so now I feel a lot more interested. Could I indeed end up as the best GT2 driver in my state? I'm inclined to think it may be more realistic than I had previously thought, but I'll have to do all the remaining rounds to find out!
 
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Still have no idea how you're managing as long as you do on the softer tyres moose. I've just done 6 laps and I could barely keep it in a straight line by the end of 4.
 
Here's my (probably wonky) strategy thinking...

Start on mediums. My guess is the majority will start on Hards, they will get out of the way at the end of lap 1.

A bit of fuel save and stop lap 13, take hards because you can choose any fuel amount from 1-9 laps. Choice might be useful if you pit at the same time as other medium runners, or want to avoid traffic.

One lap on the hards and pit for softs. Leave the pits with 8 laps of fuel, the perfect amount for nursing them to the end.

I've over-thought this, haven't I?
 
I've just been watching @Mikail Hizal's rundown for Spa and there's some important race settings that could go under the radar. I know I hadn't looked at least. (Thanks for doing these videos Mikail!)

This race has custom slipstream and very slow (3L/s) refuelling. Short-shifting to save fuel and/tyres and maybe even using fuel maps whilst in the tow of the car in front could therefore offer strategic advantages when it comes to the pit stops.

Just remember to find out how much fuel you would need per lap to go all out because the diamond displayed on the bar whilst refuelling is the estimate based on your fuel use up to that point in the race. If you've been saving a lot, it could underestimate what you need to finish if you then get some free air to push.

 
Just finished Oceania GT2 Slot 1. Started P3. Since I was up the front I decided to do @Moose78 's strat of 8RS-13RM-1RH. P1 and P2 started on RM so I was able to get by them within the first 2 laps. I was pretty slow on the softs so I didn't have too much trouble making 8 laps on them (was cutting it close though). At the first stop at the end of lap 8 I changed to RM and filled the tank to 100%. Final pit stop was at the end of lap 21 for RH.

I'm happy to say that strat worked out great for me as I ended up winning by 20 seconds. I did a tiny bit of short shifting throughout the race, but on lap 21/22 I did need to mess with the fuel mix to make it home.
 
Since I was up the front I decided to do @Moose78 's strat of 8RS-13RM-1RH.
Glad to hear it worked out for you! BTW, the tests that I do don't really give any indication of what order to do the tire compounds -- just how long to spend on each one.

As Hizal explained in the video @Zorz linked a few posts back, there might be a some advantage to putting the soft and hard stints back-to-back so you only have to add fuel once. Personally, I'm thinking I'll do either 13RM-1RH-8RS or 1RH-8RS-13RM.
Just remember to find out how much fuel you would need per lap to go all out because the diamond displayed on the bar whilst refuelling is the estimate based on your fuel use up to that point in the race. If you've been saving a lot, it could underestimate what you need to finish if you then get some free air to push.
FWIW, I did a 1RH-8RS-13RM practice race against a full field of Sophies. When I got to the pits to fill up for the long RM stint, the tank was at 32%. I was in traffic for some of that, though, so I'm thinking if I do RM first, I'll want to fill to 70% for the last two stints. I'm going to run a test yet to see if that is enough.

Good luck to everybody racing today!
 
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Qualified 13th, finished 8th on the road but bumped up to 7th thanks to a Hungarian getting slapped with a 2 minute (and one second) penalty. My strategy was 2H/13M/7S. As I'm still waiting on Fanatec's RMA process, tyre management is a real pain in the ass. I probably could have eked out a couple more laps from the mediums had I not underfuelled or forgotten about lifting and coasting. I had to keep switching between my radar, traction control and fuel map on the MFD.

BTW, I also gained 4 places on the opening lap, 3 of which thanks to some synchronised spinning exiting La Source, another guy getting spun at Les Combes, and then I lost a drag race on the run to the Bus Stop...but I also gained a place from somebody spinning after the rolling start.
 
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I did a 1H-8S-13M strategy in an early race down under. I'd warn any one else trying this to not to do it, unless you're confident you can stretch 8 laps out of the softs. Mine were getting worryingly low after 7, so I did a very cautious 8th lap. The trouble with this strategy is you really do need to commit to getting 8 laps out of the softs, if you come in a lap early then you're going to be a lap short of fuel, I image saving that much will cost a large chunk of time.
 
Started 5th finished 5th.
I spun twice and got punted off once, I could have got 3rd, but I did much better than I thought I would.
I just went with RS-RM-RH I just went as far as I could until I could feel the tires were on their way out, I was on max fuel all the time.
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I did the 2nd to last morning slot in EMEA. Missed the last slot by literal seconds. This is just dumb. While A+ and probably most A lobbies can make the whole race in under an hour this doesn't happen in B lobbies and below. Well and GT1 only has races every 2 hours anyways.

If there is anyone here who has Polyphony's ear (@Tidgney and Mik Hizal I believe but could be wrong) then it would be awesome if they could time races for 59 minutes max even for the slower crowd.

I would have really loved another shot (not sure if I can make one tonight) because I actually really enjoyed the race but also royally screwed up.

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GT2 all B/S lobby for 106 points.

Qualifying went ok, getting close to my practice PB but knowing that there was at least half a second out there for me. Ultimately P4. Not too bad.
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Decided to do the 13M/2H/7S strategy. But the race didn't really go my way at all.

I sent someone to the shadow realm by the slightest of taps (only realized in the replay). Redeemed myself a tiny bit by letting them through when they caught up later in the race (already suspected that it might have been my fault). Still bad. Sorry Johny B.
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I lost it going on the grass through the second part of Pouhon overtaking someone who went wide in the first part, taking them out then waiting for them which took 20 seconds. Incidentally it was their last lap on softs and they went in the pits afterwards. Still waiting was correct.
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* Then the blunder of blunders:
I accidentally clicked X for no tire change after my medium stint was over. Still refueled for 70 liters to finish the remaining 9 laps. Went in again for hards next lap. Then again for softs the lap after. 3 pit stops in a row. Nice. Another roughly 30 seconds lost here.

* I came out behind a driver who was freaking me out. His change of direction was super snappy (fits his screen name). I guess that he's using the directional buttons and steers by slightly tapping them. Super annoying to be behind. Unfortunately they also didn't know racing etiquette and blocked me repeatedly when I could have taken them down Kemmel straight. These two factors were highly irritating and I could never get by them.

Then Pouhon again. They slightly messed up the entry and I was closing quickly. My emotions got the best of me and I went for a gap that wasn't there again going on the grass and taking both of us out. Waited for them for another loss of about 10 seconds.
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After this incident the original pole setter who must have had a terrible race (saw them spin in lap 1) caught up with me. Unfortunately Ich Elaiy (name and shame) was very dirty and intentionally pit maneuvered me down the back straight. Another 5 seconds because I could fortunately catch it somewhat quickly.
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Of course it is quite unlikely for me to finish a race like this without incident but leaving almost a minute on the table by my own mistakes is tough.

I ultimately finished P13. The winner had an incident as well which is why I guess that I don't have the pace for a win but at least I could be in contention.
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Bonus pit stop information:
Refuelling 70 liters without tires takes about 48 seconds.
Taking tires only takes about 30 seconds.
Refuelling at all adds about 2-3 seconds, therefore avoid refuelling twice.
 

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If there is anyone here who has Polyphony's ear (@Tidgney and Mik Hizal I believe but could be wrong) then it would be awesome if they could time races for 59 minutes max even for the slower crowd.
One word of caution is being wary of what you wish for sometimes, they are already using QT to pad race lengths out….

We don’t want a situation where you basically have these safe 30 min races and 15/18 min QT constantly.
 
My best FP time was 1:50.586, which was within the top 4k, so that’s nice.

My qualifying time was just a little off that at 1:50.693, so my starting position was 10th.

For my race strat, I was thinking of starting on softs and using them until they’re relatively low, then switching to mediums. At that point, I’ll either wait until the mediums get low as well, or just switch to hards towards the end of the race.

Turns out, it was the latter scenario, wherein I switched to the hards at the end of the penultimate lap. Ultimately, I got a very cool - and clean - P6!
 
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Fun race, not quite a classic but definitely intense and the various strategies made it interesting.

Qualified P8 as I couldn't improve on my banker lap, then ran a solid first stint staying in touch with the front group.

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Pre-race I planned to do 14M / 1H + Fuel to end / 7 soft, and managed to make it work with some short shifting and careful driving on dead tyres. Plus I spent 90% of the race in the slipstream of others which definitely helped.

There was one driver who ran the exact same strategy who crashed on the penultimate lap, handing me P5. Had a big moment myself on the final lap but the car behind was in the same boat as me, skating about on softs, and couldn't get close enough to pass.

Pretty happy to execute the plan without any errors or mistakes, I actually wrote it down pre-race and propped it up next to the TV so I couldn't mess it up!

Job done and 230ish points is solid enough, nice to be back at the sharp(ish) end.
 
I love these cars and since numerous physics updates they are even easier to drive. This race with a bit of strategy has always been one of my favourites.

11:00 Slot.

Did my usual of setting my best lap first and slowly falling down the order. My time was good for P10 on the grid. Normally I go for the Med/Hard/Soft strat but I decided to mix it up this time and swap the Med and Hard around. Knowing it was a fuel race I despaired at those revving on the grid. I put the fuel mix down to 6 as the car got going under autopilot. Thankfully I was the last one facing the right way and so didn't have to worry about much as we got going. A Swiss driver decided to spin out of La Source and so I drove past. The German who tussled with them was slow and so I slipped past them also. Up ahead a Spaniard and a Brit swapped paint in Eu Rouge. Both survived but the Spaniard went wide and was slow onto the straight and so I gained another place. In Les Combes a Hungarian was in the barriers and so I was up to 6th. So far so good. The Brit ahead got a run on a Dane into Pouhon but went deep in braking. They swerved back and scared the Dane half onto the grass. There was a gap on the inside and my momentum carried me into it. However they were still tank slapping slowly and tapped me onto the kerb too. I held the slide but my momentum was shot. It allowed a German through the middle. The Brit tried another lunge on the German into Fagne and went wide again. They seemed to jump into me and I got a slide on. To be fair to them they held back until I was sorted. Thankfully I didn't spin but loads of cars streamed through and I was back into 12th. The Brit was able to pass me again due to the return of my sticky brake pedal. I pitted for my first stop onto the mediums and a sliver of fuel. I came out in 15th and set about kicking on in relatively fresh air. Lap 4 and the Swiss driver from lap 1 was very slow out of La Source for no reason and I went past. I was now right behind a Frenchman who had just pit. The broke earlier than me into the last chicane and allowed me around the outside. Next out of the pits was the German who had an adventure in Eu Rouge lap 1. Well I was able to show them how to do it properly and went around the outside Webberesque.
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Next lap the Brit pitted and I was able to pass them as they pit. This lap somebody also quit giving me 9th. Lap 8 and the Hungarian pits and I am up to 8th. I close on an Israeli who seems to be struggling, they also have a 0.5 pen so this should be a straight forward pass on the back straight. I pass them between the Stavelots though as they run a little wide. I'm aiming for a lap 15 pit for softs and I realise that my fuel will not be able to last. So I start short shifting and this impacts my pace allowing those behind to close up. The German who I got past effectively is first up. They catch me heading into the last chicane and I am fully over to the left and slow down more than I need to to allow them past. However they still barrel into my rear quarter and spin me. I couldn't have been more accommodating or clean and they repay it with this. I am also reset whilst trying to get round costing me more time. But I only loose 1 place though the Hungarian is close. They are able to pass cleaner out of Pouhon. Lap 13 and the car keeps rotating coming through Les Coombes and I find the barrier plum just before Malmedy. The car seemingly decides to stick and I can't reverse and turn very well as the back tyres are on the grass. All in all it must have cost me at least half a minute getting out of there. I am P11 by the time I get out. Lap 15 and the German goes in a lap before so I regain P10 briefly before my stop. Back out in P14. Lap 17 and I pass the Brit out of Stavelot 2. They had been off twice at Fagne and were still sliding around. A Spaniard was next on lap 19 as I scared them wide at La Source. Lap 20 and ahead the Swiss driver span another Spaniard around at La Source claiming me another spot. Of course no pen for the Swiss driver. Lap 21 and another Spaniard messes up Ickx allowing the Swiss through. Meanwhile the Hungarian had run out of fuel a lap early just out of Stavelot 2. I gained a place into the last chicane as they trundled around. The Spaniard goes for a move at Rivage and shoves the Swiss wide who returns the favour on the exit and allows me past and onto the tail of the Swiss. I get the run into Fagne and have to go for the outside. I'm not especially looking for the pass here just something to keep me in it until the final pull. However they decide to shove me wide and that was that. They should be lucky I am above a silly punt back as I had a perfect chance to into the last chicane. But I held back for P9. Whilst an o.k. result I knew I could do better. I'm not in it for the points this time round and may only do 2 races. So I decided I would go again at 6pm.

Good job I did as it was an excellent race for me.
18:00 slot
Only 13th on the grid this time. The lobby was full of better drivers than the last so anything in the top 10 would be great. I decided on the same strategy again, but with lessons learnt. I would fuel save a bit and adjust my driving. I was changing down into some corners whilst needed on a Gr3 car was not needed here. So that would also help my fuel plus using 3rd out of the last chicane and La Source too. I was released in the middle of the chicane so still facing straight but annoyingly needing to negotiate the last corner. No issues and I was fine. The 3rd placed driver span it in Stavelot and a Brit serving a pen got me 11th before my pit stop. Back out 16th and ready to get my head down. Lap 4 and 2 passed in the pits. Lap 5 and another pits. Lap 6 and an Austrian pits. They would be a close battler later. An Italian spins out of Ickx and I grab their spot. Lap 8 and a Spaniard spins out of Rivage but my place is allowed to be taken by the Austrian into Pouhon. 2 more pit that lap also. Lap 11 and 1 more pits. 3 more pit on lap 13 including defacto 2nd place onto hards. They come out a few seconds behind. 1 more pits next time around. End of 14 and the Austrian pits. It seems my pace on the worn mediums is the same as the leaders on hards as they hadn't eaten too much into me lead over them. My plan works and I still have half a laps worth of fuel at my 2nd stop. Time for softs and a good run to the end. I am out in 11th but plenty ahead still to stop again. Someone quits giving me a place. The Swiss driver who qualied p2 passes me into La Source on lap 17. Up to 9th with more pit stops and there is a gaggle of cars right ahead too. I pass 2 including the Swiss on the straight. They had damage so were slow. But they get me back again in the last chicane. I seems they're not happy with the Austrian and they shove each other off at La Source allowing me back past them both. A German is undone by the flappy cones in Malmedy and pass them. I am now in a legitimate 3rd place in this stacked at least for me lobby. A new threat appears as a Czech and a different Austrian make their way past those behind. I have a couple of laps to keep them back. They are fighting though so that could be all I need. I may well have done if it wasn't to taking too much kerb at Stavelot 2 and having to save a half spin. I was hoping they would fight across the last lap and I would pick up the pieces but it wasn't to be. P5 and a really excellent result.
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With the right strat and clean air you can really make this race your own.
 
Hello community,

I participated in the Nations Cup, round 2 (26 April, 2025), and received a 2 minute penalty after finishing in 3rd place, despite fully complying with all race regulations.

I don't understand why.
Could someone explaining to me what went wrong to get this penalty?

Thank you very much.
 
Thank you (as always) @Moose78 for the Intel ;) I reached Q8 (1.49.xxx) and went for hard soft medium (as only one). Finished P5 for 125 points (only 9 races finished, the others quit...). I will not race all of the races, maybe suzuka ist the second and last race...
 
Hello community,

I participated in the Nations Cup, round 2 (26 April, 2025), and received a 2 minute penalty after finishing in 3rd place, despite fully complying with all race regulations.

I don't understand why.
Could someone explaining to me what went wrong to get this penalty?

Thank you very much.
You didn’t use all 3 compounds.

Not much to explain, you had to use all 3 compounds.
 
Started 9th. Messed up my first lap, didn't really know what to expect from my second. Fine. Decided to start on hard and run it for 3 laps.

First corner, a Brit goes into a German. Now I don't understand what happened here because the British guy looked like he suffered the worst case of netcode I've ever seen. A full car width away from anyone else and he just jolts as if he's hit a wall. Very weird. German spins out, British guy gets 5 second then quits, so I'm up to 7th after one corner.

I close in on a Belgian who I'm running much, much faster than. On lap 3 we sort of trip over each other and an Italian (we're all on hards) catches us up. The Belgian pits on lap 3 and I follow him in. I had planned on finishing on mediums because I felt more comfortable on them in practice, but here I knew anyway I'd have to go on softs and try and get past the Belgian. I did, and I had clear running for the next 7 laps.

Nothing much happens. I'm up to 2nd by the end of my soft stint. I pit on lap 10 and come out in 10th. I make up places as everyone pits until I'm 3rd on lap 16. By this point the Belgian from earlier is on softs and I let him past up towards Blanchimont because there's no point trying to hold him off.

I spend the next few laps looking at the relative too much and by lap 21 a Frenchman has caught me up. I go to the right going down the straight but he brakes later than I do and that's that. But I stay in slipstream range and on the run to the final chicane I know I'm going to have a chance. He goes to the inside and it's my turn to brake late. At the time I felt he bumped me at the first part and he sort of does - he gets on the sausage on the inside and bounces a bit, my right front into his left rear. He takes an odd line trying to get the car back and for the second part of the chicane I stay glued to the inside and bump him slightly.

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It's a drag to the line and I make it by half a car length. Honestly I'd say racing incident. Two awkward cars on a tight bit of track with ruined tyres both desperate for a run to the line. He bumped me, I bumped him. We both came out of the corner with a chance for the position.

Ended up 11.6 seconds off the winner which is, frankly, miraculous. Although the top 2 were right beside each other the whole race and one of them asked in the post-race chat "why don't you leave any space?" so I'm sure that was a good time.
 
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