Gran Turismo World Series

[newmedia_dev]

I mean very rarely there's simply the super talented driver just starting out with GT7 online races and they just naturally make their way through the ranks.

But the deliberate seal clubbing I don't understand either

I get the content side of it for streamers maybe but for normal people it’s gotta be self esteem and ego issues.

 

[A1an]

Hmm I am tempted to give today's race a go, just going in blind.

 

[newmedia_dev]

Hmm I am tempted to give today's race a go, just going in blind.

It’s not as bad as you’d imagine with 18 minutes to figure it out.

Do it for the experience it’s just a really awkward drive.

Honestly if I bought a lambo took it to the track even box fresh and it felt like this, I’d give it back.

In the real world cars don’t float like this especially supercars but yeah it’s GT 🤷‍♂️

 

[dazdilly75]

And you have to think to what end?

All of my accounts (US, UK and UK ALT) are all at the same level because that’s my natural level.

I have seen a lot of E to A+ YT stuff recently but I can’t imagine there is a lot of fun for top drivers even going from the back through D/C/B fields and even if they “win” it’s about as hollow as it gets.

What better way to get a practice race in without any risks to your DR, than to enter a slot in the lower lobbies. Remember, GT1 only get 3 slots to race and this is probably the motivation to practice race pace, before they enter one of the 3 evening slots. That's my theory anyway.

Is it a form of cheating? Absolutely! Because they are taking away vital points from drivers whose ability is actually suited to that DR level. I don't think this is anything new, but I think we are seeing more of it in this official season.

Cheating/exploiting to gain an advantage seems to be the order of the day in GT7 at the moment.

 

[newmedia_dev]

What better way to get a practice race in without any risks to your DR, than to enter a slot in the lower lobbies. Remember, GT1 only get 3 slots to race and this is probably the motivation to practice race pace, before they enter one of the 3 evening slots. That's my theory anyway.

Is it a form of cheating? Absolutely! Because they are taking away vital points from drivers whose ability is actually suited to that DR level. I don't think this is anything new, but I think we are seeing more of it in this official season.

Cheating/exploiting to gain an advantage seems to be the order of the day in GT7 at the moment.

Practice ok, but when the A+ lobbies are running a second or 2 quicker per lap I’m not really sure what you’d learn as an A+ driver having to smash through a field.

Where it gets a bit rubbish, is that these ringers start stripping points away from
People. Im never going to qualify for a World Series, but I can do well for a given category but if these peeps are pushing me lower artificially it’s a bit rubbish.

I genuinely don’t think there is a justification of it, in real life it’s called “an exhibition” and Lewis or max will start from the back and they are non point scoring entrants and it’s fun for everyone.

This is just show boating and they quit if they bin it or don’t want to win so wait at the line. What is the point other than basically being an arsehole to everyone who isn’t A+

I just think it’s why we killed kings and queens years ago when play things aren’t playthings.

 

[stpatty]

Smurfs in daily races are fine as long as they're not the pushy teenagers who try to do last to first in Race B. Smurfs in GTWS should have their console explode as soon as they cross the line. I remember a race in GT Sport where I finished 2nd in a Manufacturers race at Catalunya. I was beaten by a guy in an M3 by about 20 seconds. Get lost you absolute loser.

 

[Norbsthebald]

Those that said this Lambo is a bit of a barge weren't wrong. With that in mind, I decided to do a bit of Free Practice to get used to the car (best 1:22.6), then do a one-make Custom Race vs the AI to get used to it with a full tank and tyre wear.
This is a picture of me going under the bridge on the back straight during my practice race.

This was invaluable, as the braking distances are noticeably longer with a fat car, if you can believe it. Even though IRL I own and regularly drive a car with drums all round this was still hair-raisingly bad (so I've heard).

I had to go into the lab all day today at work, which means I get to run around the lab in a white coat shouting "turn up the volts!" but unfortunatley also means no daytime slots for me, so I did the first of the evening slots (UK 6pm). Only one of the drivers in my lobby was showing points so most were new to the race.

I waited for a gap in quali, but my first lap was still rubbish, then I did a high 1:22, then everything went right and I got a 1:22.1 which put me top of the pile at the time. I couldn't improve further , but two other drivers did so I would start 3rd.

I got a clean start, the polesitter went wide and onto the grass at T1 making me 2nd, then the car in front had to lift very slightly exiting the Esses allowing me to draw alongside going into the first of the two 90deg corners at the far end of the track, we went round that one side by side then I got a better drive out of the 2nd of the two corners and was able to pull away down the back stretch. Keeping my head while those behind me battled, I had 2.5s lead at the end of L2, and that would stay constant before jumping to 4s (penalty for my pursuer?) then reducing to 3.5s at the end as I drove a safer line in the last 2 laps to hold on for the win, which I did for 130pts.

I must admit I only did this one as I have to do all the ones I can to put a full set of scores in (can't do the F3500A round, which I'm actually not that sad about), but I'm very glad I did.

Good luck to those still to race!

 

[stpatty]

Anyway, I thought my practices were going consistent if not very fast. Qualified 14th, 1.3 seconds off pole with a bunch of the usual faces I saw in the Manu races. Made up some places at the chicane on lap 1, think I made up another couple with incidents and was running 10th. Ended up fighting off a Pole who'd started higher up and who was obviously faster than me. He ran into me twice in sector 1 where I was miles off the pace of everyone else. Eventually on lap 14 he got a better run onto the straight than me and went around the outside at the chicane, so fair enough.

Finished 11th. Could have been worse, the guy on pole bottled it at turn 1, went wide on to the grass and then into the wall.

I spent about twice as long making that livery as I did practicing. Wouldn't have bothered if I'd realised the race was at sunset and you can't see the chrome.

 

[BluRacer7]

Happy to start off the 2025 Nations Cup strong with 291pts in the Top 5. Qualified a decent 8th and by the end of Lap 1 was holding on to 4th for the longest time after lost out and had to defend 5th for the remaining lap. I survived the Lambo and this race alone is better than the entire Manufacturers season and hope my luck continues.

 

[DK]

Qualified 12th, finished 14th. I'm not putting up with this pig again. It's just impossible to drive it consistently with a pad. I can't be arsed firing up another practice session, but I bet the LSD's initial setting is set to >40.

 

[A1an]

I needed just one more place for positive ranking points ☹️

I really think the car should have been on the soft tires.

 

[Famine]

I've done five Q laps and my wrists are now dust...

Sitting in the pits waiting for the qualy clock to count out.

 

[afc5150]

I'm in qualy in P5 with some guy 1.5 seconds ahead of second place. Great.

 

[Canucks_9419]

Well after thinking on it a bit, the..... odd decisions with car selections and pushing NA EST GT1 timeslots back an hour for some reason, I'm not likely going to take part at all this series.

Maybe round 6, but doubtful. Have a good series all!

 

[Revengel]

I will likely go for 1 and done tonight. For the endurance races I'll likely do 2 on a weeknight.

The Red Bul races will definitely be 1 and do for this Revengel.

The last endurance race I recall is on a Saturday so I may do all three heats just for funsies.

We'll see. Not looking forward to tonight. There's a reason I said my Gran Turismo career (at least in only competition) peaked in the wee hours of Sunday morning . . .

 

[afc5150]

GT2 slot 5 worth 84 points. Door 2. Smurf on pole by 1.5 seconds.

Had a decent enough race, up to 5th from Q7 by turn 3 and good battles with 4th and 3rd on the way to a podium and 77 massive points.

Our smurf smoked us as expected, but at least I got my SR back to full S after the disconnect from the Suzuka round in Manu.

I actually left work half an hour early to get home in time to do the 4pm slot as the next one at 9 is too late for me.

 

[Famine]

I've done five Q laps and my wrists are now dust...

Sitting in the pits waiting for the qualy clock to count out.

So... Q3, P3, somehow. Only 2.1s off the winner (who I never caught up with after lap one) and was very close to losing position to a very fast Swiss driver behind me but he lost the rear braking for the chicane.

115ish is the most points I've had in one race in quite some time.

 

[ZEE]

What a stinky first Nations cup race to say the least, PD should really rethink these kinda of pointless sueprcar races, you wasted the car and the its on the wrong track with these rubbish slidey tyres, causing unlimited understeering and chaos everywhere!

GTWS Nations Cup Round 1- EMEA Region - 8Pm slot - Lambo Aventador LP750 SV 15' - SM Tyres - Started 12th - No pit!

So did some practice runs before th qualifying and got an ok 1min 23secs at Road Atlanta, but the car was very skittish and understeerry so i coudl not get a good line not matter what i did. I tried to rotate it as much as possible but it was tricky.
Qualifying was rubbish, the car behaved as f it on snow tyres and kept sliding about onto the grass and back and forth and some drivers had no disregard kept pushign, honking horns and driving liek nutters to get up the field. Overall 12th to get it into the race, no good!

Onto the race and was frik frest that was, Left the rolls and lost one place then lots of argy bragy down the esses to the right hander and all chaos as peopel went flying, barging and nasty bump passes, I was in 10th and holding my own. The pace was so off, but I managed to fight me thru and avoid a nasty german driver in 8th who kept pushign to pass and bargiing into me causing me to drift the lamob round turns to recover and avoid and incident. My SR took a beating becuase of this rubbish race, I dont get PD logic and who comes up with these race choices? Honestly, this car wud have faired better at Le-mans or St.croix layout C. Use it's speed and less on handling PD!

Lots of argy bargy bashing and nudging and I eventually got up to 7th place after a few penalty struken drivers lost tiem ont the straight, then I pushed ot hold it, but thsi moronic German driver in the orange lambo kept bump pushing me on the hill tunnel exit and grassed me and purspofully id it to make me lose my lien and this car you cant recover once it does as it acts liek its RWD than 4WD ont hese ***** tyres.

Overall ended up finishing 8th palce netted about 51 points which is meh, but I look more forward to the next few rounds, glad this is over!

Spoiler: Racing photos - RA - Rd.1

 

[Zorz]

Props to Polyphony for doing something new, but good lord that's an evil combo today. I gave it 2 goes and I think I'll leave it at that. I just don't have the speed to keep up with the front half of the grid here and I've found this one very stressful in VR.

Slot 1
I really struggled to find my rhythm during qualifying. All the way through I was quite far down on my personal best due to not quite getting sector 1 right. Right at the end, I managed to sneak onto a lap with seconds on the clock and then throw in a 1:21.572 (about a tenth off my free practice best) to claim P9.

The first two sectors of lap 1 were a bloodbath. Rather than type it all out, I think I'll just show a video...

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I thought I'd managed to dodge through everything up until turn 7, then it all became a very rough race for me. Being caught in the middle of that utterly wrecked my composure.

The chaos didn't stop there either. So many incidents with people pushing to pass or even knocking others off the track entirely. Somehow in the midst of everything I also managed to pull off some daring overtakes, which surprised the hell out of me. They also very much impressed my dad who stayed to watch the race live after I invited him over for dinner.

I managed to recover up to P9 briefly after making a move on a Finn into turn 3, but then I outbroke myself into turn 5, went wide and got a track limits penalty.

In the end, I finished P13 after going very deep on turn 6 on the final lap, then almost spinning myself out trying to get the car to take turn 7 because I was riding the kerb with a wheel on the grass. Very difficult race with highs and lows galore.

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Slot 2
This time I qualified P11 with a 1:21.642, and lap 1 was much more civilised. I accidentally bumped the Portuguese driver in front of me at turn 3 a bit, but thankfully nothing came of it.

I then almost got taken out by the Portuguese driver at turn 1 on lap 2 after he tried going 2-wide with a French driver on the outside, unsettled the car on the kerb and then swerved right and hit me. Call that karma for me bumping him I guess?

I got past him from that going into turn 3, then stayed P10 for the whole race, which had a recurring theme. I'd see penalties and mistakes from people up front, but I would always be ever so slightly too far back to actually gain from them. The biggest one came at the end where a couple of Brits were fighting for P7. One went left trying to aim for a dive into the chicane, only to get a couple of wheels onto the grass, be completely unable to stop the car and bomb straight over the gravel.

That gave him a 4 second penalty, but I was 6 tenths too far back on the finish line to steal the position.

The P10 was worth 164 points. Not fantastic, but could be worse.

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[GOTMAXPOWER]

That was fun! The Aventador is a car I've probably driven a thousand miles in on this game but all of that is in daily race A at SSRX so using the brakes and driving round corners was a totally new experience 😳, obviously it's a big heavy 4wd on road tyres so it's not going to handle like a modern GT3 but it still has some performance to it and its refreshing to have something with more power than grip for once. Hopefully PD put more of these cars into GTWS in the future.

 

[tmtk]

I gave this combo a solid practice, because with my buttons steering I'm as faq'ed as it is any race, so I felt an extra time with this is very much needed. This Lambo is not only reluctant to turn, but it also has a bad habit of disconnecting steering under throttle - two most awful things for my type of input.
A simple strategy needed to be adopted: brake early (really early) with no steering, coast through turns trying to maintain the good line and get on the gas when ther car points in the right direction.

First sessions of practice were okayish, could go low 23s, but still some corners were giving me trouble.
More practice ensued and I could reach low 22s, with race pace more in the region of high 22s/low 23s.
Finally I managed a PB of 21.8 (but that was only with the last corner throw into the wall).

GT2, first US slot, low B lobby, 91 points for the win

I was thankful for the 18 minutes qualifying here, because I used it as additional time for testing while trying to nail this lap. I was on the way to the low (very low, like .0) 22s a couple of times but always something went wrong with the last sector. Had to settle with 22.3 which gave me a pole by just over a tenth.
This was so important as the track is not easy to overtake.

Start went uneventful (at least for me). First laps were a bit sketchy on my part, because of cold tires I guess, so drivers in 2nd and 3rd were close. Besides I feel the Lambo in race trim (with fuel tank weight added) was a little bit more driveable, so all the better for me. Trouble with navigating turn 3 on lap 2 (or 3) made the Lambo in 2nd gently touch my rear, but it was the last time I saw them close.

They were just making too many mistakes along the way and my practicing paid the dividends with much better lap-to-lap consistency. Additionally I feel like the Lambo in race trim (with fuel tank weight added) was a little more driveable than in FP, so all the better for me. Last two laps were maybe a little more "free" in my execution, but with advantage of over 10 seconds I let myself ease a little with the focus. I won by 6 seconds in the end.

91 points for the start, that's way more than ever expected. I feel like people didn't gave that combo the time it needed, just hopped in and hoped it will go as usual. There were some names in my race that I remember from last round of Manu at Suzuka and they practically destroyed me pace-wise there. Here, they struggled A LOT!

I will keep this round in fond memory. I practiced and my opponents just didn't (enough). Next time when it comes to those Red Bulls and Formulas with which people are more dialled in, things may look quite differently for me. For now, at least, I'm happy.

 

[TheWeapon874]

I found that pretty damn enjoyable to be honest. Pole in the 2nd spilt Aus/NZ 8pm lobby and held the lead for 5 laps until someone made an optimistic dive into the final chicane, clipped wheels under brakes and put us both in the sand. Recovered to P4 and 200 points.
Decided to go again at 10pm, stronger lobby this time (255 for first) and qualified P6. Curiously only 10 cars in the lobby..... Great battle for the podium with a handful of other drivers, once going 4 wide down the long straight but no deaths and only minimal contact all round. Thanks to a few copping 0.5 penalties, I held on to P3 for 225 points and a passable start to nations. Though I really should do daily races and get my DR up if I want to get some real points.

 

[tankuroded]

Nations standings and cutline as of round 1:

 

[Redneckchef]

You can go ahead and not count Andrew for Oceania. From what I've heard in the past he doesn't want to go to GTWS. He wants just good solid racing when he feels like it on his terms. I assume he'll skip a few rounds to stay out of the points fight

 

[Moose78]

Another predictably dismal Wednesday night...

First GT1 slot in North America (9PM EDT). I was in door #10 of a 14-car A/S lobby with 172 points up for grabs.

Qualifying went about as well as I could have hoped, but my hopes for this race were abysmally low. I did a fair bit of practice this week, but just could not figure out how to get the car around the track anything near quickly. Posted a 1:23:341, which was a tenth off my best in Free Practice. That put me in dead last in Q14, a good half-second slower than anybody else on the field.

There's not much to say about the race. I drove around the back, never quick enough to threaten anybody, picking up spots to drivers who crashed or mistakenly made pit stops, giving all but one up again as they caught back up. A P13 finish for 86 points.

 

[bliprunner]

Well I really enjoyed driving the Lambo but the race didn't go my way...

Qualifying was slightly tricky as I was trying to eat a plate of food before it got cold. Did an OK lap of 21.5, only good enough for P10.

Lap one there was a traffic jam braking at the end of the back straight and I had to pull right and off into the sand trap. Last by 4 seconds, I got into a nice groove and was back in the pack within a few laps.

Was pretty confident of at least getting back to my start position until someone span at turn one and dived in front of me, nowhere to go and a fat 4 second penalty was my prize.

Back to last and another rapid chase to the pack, got past a couple and managed to finish P12. Just one of those days!

Looking forward to Spa, nice long race with strategy and I usually do ok in the X.

 

[stpatty]

I thought I'd managed to dodge through everything up until turn 7, then it all became a very rough race for me. Being caught in the middle of that utterly wrecked my composure.

I burst out laughing when that Spaniard went up the inside and into the other two. What a clown.

My first lap was surprisingly incident free. Pole went off at turn 1 and one guy went bowling at the chicane after clipping the grass, but everyone was pretty close but cautious.

 

[Moose78]

I've done a bit of strategy testing at Spa in the X2019.

Without any tire saving, the RS tires last 8 laps for me. The RMs last longer than a full tank of fuel, which for me is 12.9 laps. With a bit of fuel saving, I can easily get to 13 full laps.

With the testing I've done so far, it looks like some combination of an 8RS-13RM-1RH is the fastest option for me. Details in the spoiler section below.

Spoiler: Tables and charts

I did 8 laps on the RSs and RHs, and 13 on RMs. For the RMs, I left the fuel saving to the final lap and simply bumped up the FM to 2. There was a bit of fumbling with the controls on my part to change the FM setting, which accounts for some extra time on lap 13. I've done two tests on RS, but only one on RM and RH. I might do some more to smooth out the data a bit more, but I don't know if would really make any difference,

Tire compound	Laps	Opt time	Best time	Avg time	Total time
RS	8	1:49.401	1:51.710	1:52.417	14:59.338
RM	13	1:50.723	1:52.721	1:53.278	24:32.608
RH	8	1:52.586	1:54.010	1:54.635	15:17.081

Tire tread levels at end of test:

Tire compound	Laps	Front left	Front Right	Rear left	Rear right
RS	8	35%	40%	15%	20%
RM	13	45%	45%	30%	30%
RH	8	75%	75%	65%	65%

Simulated strategies based on the lap times above (by least total time):

Strategy	Total time
8RS-13RM-1RH	41:26.227
8RS-12RM-2RH	41:27.557
7RS-13RM-2RH	41:27.976
7RS-12RM-3RH	41:29.182
6RS-13RM-3RH	41:30.149
6RS-12RM-4RH	41:30.420
5RS-13RM-4RH	41:32.082
5RS-12RM-5RH	41:32.804
4RS-12RM-6RH	41:35.014
4RS-13RM-5RH	41:35.174
3RS-13RM-6RH	41:36.403
3RS-12RM-7RH	41:36.404

 

[Wilsonson]

I've done a bit of strategy testing at Spa in the X2019.

Without any tire saving, the RS tires last 8 laps for me. The RMs last longer than a full tank of fuel, which for me is 12.9 laps. With a bit of fuel saving, I can easily get to 13 full laps.

With the testing I've done so far, it looks like some combination of an 8RS-13RM-1RH is the fastest option. Details in the spoiler section below.

Spoiler: Tables and charts

I did 8 laps on the RSs and RHs, and 13 on RMs. For the RMs, I left the fuel saving to the final lap and simply bumped up the FM to 2. There was a bit of fumbling with the controls on my part to change the FM setting, which accounts for some extra time on lap 13. I've done two tests on RS, but only one on RM and RH. I might do some more to smooth out the data a bit more, but I don't know if would really make any difference,

Tire compound	Laps	Opt time	Best time	Avg time	Total time
RS	8	1:49.401	1:51.710	1:52.417	14:59.338
RM	13	1:50.723	1:52.721	1:53.278	24:32.608
RH	8	1:52.586	1:54.010	1:54.635	15:17.081

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Tire tread levels at end of test:

Tire compound	Laps	Front left	Front Right	Rear left	Rear right
RS	8	35%	40%	15%	20%
RM	13	45%	45%	30%	30%
RH	8	75%	75%	65%	65%

Simulated strategies based on the lap times above (by least total time):

Strategy	Total time
8RS-13RM-1RH	41:26.227
8RS-12RM-2RH	41:27.557
7RS-13RM-2RH	41:27.976
7RS-12RM-3RH	41:29.182
6RS-13RM-3RH	41:30.149
6RS-12RM-4RH	41:30.420
5RS-13RM-4RH	41:32.082
5RS-12RM-5RH	41:32.804
4RS-12RM-6RH	41:35.014
4RS-13RM-5RH	41:35.174
3RS-13RM-6RH	41:36.403
3RS-12RM-7RH	41:36.404

I really, really appreciate this research of yours and sharing it with us. One more thing many of us casual drivers don't need to worry about anymore.

 

[BluRacer7]

Since we're doing Rolling Starts at Spa again in the x2019 Red Bull, wonder if it'll be like before in the 2023/24 Exhibition where all the drivers start before the final chicane since we're not using Grid Starts like last year's 2024 Series.