Gran Turismo World Series (Manufacturers Cup Exhibition Season: Feb 5 - Feb 15)

[Fezzik]

Did some practice and remembered that I loathe most road cars in this game and also this track, so skipping tomorrow.

May do Wednesday’s race on a different account than round 1 - I don’t have a CLK on all of them and custom liveries make you faster (scientifically proven).

 

[Finch2090]

Could be a dumb question

I have a wing attached to my Capuccino… Is that aesthetic only? Or does it actually create drag / downforce on the car compared to a wingless Capuccino? Lol

 

[CMB350]

Did some practice and remembered that I loathe most road cars in this game and also this track, so skipping tomorrow.

I’m usually of the same opinion. However the Cappuccino is actually kinda fun. Road Atlanta is one of my favorite tracks too. I typically hate “comfort” tires, but this car is so lightweight and underpowered that they seem to work okay with it.

I also missed round 1 on my main account so I’ll do this one just for the heck of it.

 

[Moose78]

Could be a dumb question

I have a wing attached to my Capuccino… Is that aesthetic only? Or does it actually create drag / downforce on the car compared to a wingless Capuccino? Lol

I expect it is nullified by the BoP, but I've fitted my car out with aero parts, too, just in case.

 

[GlockPants]

I have to say, I'm enjoying throwing the Cappuccino around Road Atlanta. Looking forward to the race tomorrow, but I'll be sad after the FP is over.

 

[Interemptor]

Just finished the first Cappu race. Started P6 and finished P3. Pretty happy.

The last 3 laps the guy behind me was faster and closed the gap to .2 s in the last lap. Switched my lane once on the straight to defend the inside of turn 10 and closed the door to the right under the bridge before the finish line to stay ahead and finish p3.

After the race the guy said it was a "nasty push". Got clean race and there was no contact. Kinda think I may have been a bit too aggressive but should I have just let him pass?

 

[MCL1974]

Just finished the first Cappu race. Started P6 and finished P3. Pretty happy.

The last 3 laps the guy behind me was faster and closed the gap to .2 s in the last lap. Switched my lane once on the straight to defend the inside of turn 10 and closed the door to the right under the bridge before the finish line to stay ahead and finish p3.

After the race the guy said it was a "nasty push". Got clean race and there was no contact. Kinda think I may have been a bit too aggressive but should I have just let him pass?

difficult to say without seeing the replay, did you safe it and can you share it?
No way to tell otherwise if you defended clean and well or not....

For myself if someone is significantly faster then me i do not really fight them, as it will likely influence both of our races negatively. Unless it is in the very final stage of a race, then all gloves are off and I will do anything (legal) to try and finish ahead.

Also, in the heat of the battle, all of us I think have gone a bit too far at one time or another? Live and learn....

 

[Interemptor]

difficult to say without seeing the replay, did you safe it and can you share it?
No way to tell otherwise if you defended clean and well or not....

For myself if someone is significantly faster then me i do not really fight them, as it will likely influence both of our races negatively. Unless it is in the very final stage of a race, then all gloves are off and I will do anything (legal) to try and finish ahead.

Also, in the heat of the battle, all of us I think have gone a bit too far at one time or another? Live and learn....

No I didn't. Should have though. Wanted to message him but can't dm him.

He was not that much faster. Was around 1.5s between us from lap 4 to 8 and the last 2 laps my times dropped because I got a bit nervous seeing a podium finish possible.

If someone is way faster then I move to the side. Risk of a stupid accident would be too big.

 

[Nakano219]

That was really fun - the car feels a lot faster once you're in the race and there's other cars around. Qualified P6, finished P3. I got one penalty for cutting the final chicane a bit much, but I don't think it mattered.

Multiple people binned it pushing turn one too hard - definitely keep your eye out up there because it's an easy place to get collected by an impulsive rejoin.

 

[D_Dragline]

Ran Oceania slot 1. Top split.

Q4 with a 53.5.

Great racing. Tight and clean.

Two stupid track limit penalties cost me 3 positions but apart from that, the race went well. Finished p7 for 223 points.

Fun combo, good luck to everyone who has a go.

 

[tmtk]

GT2 EMEA - low B/S lobby - 68 points race

Qualified 6th with horrible lap (56.9)
Quickly after the start I realized what was my deficit in the free practice times. Driving AT, I was being simply destroyed on the back straight. Would be quite funny if I wasn't so quick in the twisty section.
I was catching up to people and passing them before the backstraight only to loose horribly few seconds later - it was like I had mandatory 0.5s penalty every damn lap.

Having said that I had some fun during first part of the laps and even overtook few drivers for good, running 3rd for most of the race (had a sniff of 2nd briefly), but too optimistic run on lap 8 resulted in 1 second penalty. I had 3 seconds gap over the driver behind, but combined with the AT penalty I got overtaken and even if I overtook him back on lap 9 I had not enough advantage to defend the position.
So 4th, 58 points, not repeating this one.

If you're running AT, think twice before entering, seeing people pass you effortlessly on the straight is demoralizing.

 

[Akers]

I’ve got my Nations Cup race out the way early. Slot 1 EMEA C/S Gr3 lobby. Started 3rd after putting in a qualifier not far off my best FP, which was pleasing, but suspected much of the field had a shocker in qualifying, squabbling for space. After a good start, 1st had a ‘mare at the tight right before the back straight, putting me in second. They’d qualified 2secs ahead on the field so was only a matter of time before they overtook me. I should come home safely from there but silly mistakes meant I lost another couple of places in the remaining laps, with the two who over took me squabbling down the back straight on the last lap, I was able to nip past one and pick up a place into the final chicane, finishing 5th. As I’ve struggled to improve my times for this race, I think I’ll take that, rather than risk a poorer result later in the day, when the lobbies may be busier and more competitive.
Good luck out there everyone, in today’s racing!

 

[Finch2090]

attempted the race in my B account to get warmed up for later (My second account is high B, main account low A so it’s still tough)

Qualifying went as good as you could expect lmao. Firstly, everyone shooting out of the pitlane all at once all over the track, I’m guessing the majority didn’t touch practice once and probably there first time driving the Capuccino. Literally fighting for places on the out lap, going 3 or 4 wide through the tight left hander and absolute chaos in the corner into before the back straight, and literally up the back straight, fighting, blocking, ramming and about 10 cars serving penalties ranging from .5 to 4 seconds…

I backed myself up with so much room to just leave myself time (2:00) for two laps granted I avoided penalties on my hotlap, but by the time I got onto the back straight on my first lap I was running into traffic on the straight because of penalties being served again and ended up entering the chicane with someone else but his line was awful so it didn’t affect me much. Second lap, had to be abandoned for traffic but I qualified p2 with a 1:56?. Was my mistake, I should have just left the pits ASAP and gapped the cars behind me

Won the race by 4 seconds in the end. P2 and P3 clearly did their homework as they were consistent with me for the entire race while the rest of the field was probably 10+ seconds after third place

So my thoughts for the later races -

1. Chances are a lot of people are jumping into this race completely raw - So get out ahead of the pack in qualifying

2. Automatic transmission will cost you .500 on the back straight minimum every time as it’s an extremely early shift from 3rd to 4th

3. I thought it would be difficult to make up time in this race, but a single bad corner can cost you between .5 - 1.5 depending on how poorly you take it. So even if you have a bad lap or make a mistake, lock in and find your rhythm again and you can easily make that time back up

Just be consistent, avoid the penalties and even just do a few practice laps before hand and you should be able to finish well in this race as like I said, I feel like a lot of people are just going to jump in raw into this race!

Fun race though has to be said, I enjoyed this car / track combo.

 

[GlockPants]

1. Chances are a lot of people are jumping into this race completely raw - So get out ahead of the pack in qualifying

Thank you for the confirmation about this. I had suspected this would be a good choice, especially if you have any pace. Anyone who hasn't practiced probably isn't going to figure out how to drive the Cappuccino fast right away. There's probably a good 4-6 seconds between my first few laps and my best in FP.

Normally I let the pack out ahead in qualifying, but on an almost 2 minute lap and 5 minutes to qualify, being as close to first out for the out lap will be beneficial, I think.

 

[Moose78]

I've spent a fair bit of time last night and this morning practicing with the Cappuccino -- free practice, lobbies, and custom races. I feel like I'm just not getting it. Without the aid of a ghost, the best I've been able to muster in a Free Practice is 1:54.1. I suppose that should be fine against anybody who hasn't practiced, but I was really hoping to improve on my current 1:53.9 in Free Practice.

The first slot in the Americas is still two hours away, so I suppose there's still time for things to click for me, but I'm not hopeful.

In other news, I've completed my post-update Manu Cup testing of Canada's least popular manufacturers -- Alfa Romeo, Renault and Volkswagen -- and found a winner.

The choice was obvious. It wasn't even close. In both the Gr.4 and Gr.3 races, the VWs just blew away the other cars. The BoP changes only increased the difference.

 

[Finch2090]

I've spent a fair bit of time last night and this morning practicing with the Cappuccino -- free practice, lobbies, and custom races. I feel like I'm just not getting it. Without the aid of a ghost, the best I've been able to muster in a Free Practice is 1:54.1. I suppose that should be fine against anybody who hasn't practiced, but I was really hoping to improve on my current 1:53.9 in Free Practice.

The first slot in the Americas is still two hours away, so I suppose there's still time for things to click for me, but I'm not hopeful.

In other news, I've completed my post-update Manu Cup testing of Canada's least popular manufacturers -- Alfa Romeo, Renault and Volkswagen -- and found a winner.

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The choice was obvious. It wasn't even close. In both the Gr.4 and Gr.3 races, the VWs just blew away the other cars. The BoP changes only increased the difference.

Not sure where you’re losing time

I will say, the biggest time saver I found is to quickly counter steer in sharp corners, even though it feels counter intuitive, you can scrub a lot of speed even just going a small bit side ways, so getting the car pointing in the right direction is the best way to maintain momentum

Anyways, I just ran the A race, finished 2nd by .300 with a 3 seconds to 3rd and 4th and then a good distance behind them was the remainder, coming in 10 to 30 seconds behind the leader.

My fastest lap in FP was 1:52.7 but the fastest lap in the entire race was slower than your fastest lap in FP. So I would say if you can consistently do that pace during the race you’re likely looking at a top 5 finish at the least. My average lap time must have been 1.55.5 to… so if you’re doing a 1.54 in FP it means you should fast enough to run that pace in the race without really risking track limits

You’ll do great mate, just stay consistent, don’t steer if you don’t have to because that will scrub speed, counter steer if you’re going sideways too much in the corner and a quick dab of the brakes will rescue you from track limits without taking off too much speed either!

For context, I’m low A DR in EU, so if you’re higher than that then maybe you’ll have issues with pace 😂 good luck!

 

[Pfei]

I feel like I'm just not getting it

Me, neither. I put in half an hour and only got down to a 16.7. Had a few minutes before F1 starts so I jumped into that hot rod Grand Valley time trial and in only ten minutes I am only two-tenths from gold.

So it must be the car. I just can't get my head around how to drive the Cappuccino fast. I will probably skip this round.

 

[Pigems]

You only wanna use 3rd and 4th gear in the cappuccino, like hi and low gears basically. Stay in 4th for T1, and T3, stay in 4th for the left after the esses. Only use 3rd for the right hander leading to the back straight, and the last chicane, it’s 4th gear everywhere else. And shift to 4th at about 1/4 rev bar, don’t rev the car out.

 

[GlockPants]

And shift to 4th at about 1/4 rev bar, don’t rev the car out.

For anybody in VR, seems like the top times shift between 7000 and 7500 RPM.

 

[Famine]

Weird race.

Guy I never saw after lap two and who I never touched (because I only had contact with one car - which you'll see subsequently) called me a "clown" twice after the race, guy who was in a Red Bull-liveried car tried to force me off track on the pit "straight" after he'd just served a penalty, then brake-checked me, then tried to divebomb at turn three and missed.

Not confident I'll run that one again.

 

[SPL170db]

For anybody in VR, seems like the top times shift between 7000 and 7500 RPM.

Mistah MCA said about 66mph to do the 3rd -> 4th shift.

 

[Timm Sheehan]

You only wanna use 3rd and 4th gear in the cappuccino, like hi and low gears basically. Stay in 4th for T1, and T3, stay in 4th for the left after the esses. Only use 3rd for the right hander leading to the back straight, and the last chicane, it’s 4th gear everywhere else. And shift to 4th at about 1/4 rev bar, don’t rev the car out.

I was shifting at 1/2 rev bar and it allowed for several passes (probably AT racers).

For my races today:

Ran race 1 in EMEA, POOR qualifying led to Q10 and (of course) last lap issues landed me at P12. How can you run a flawless race in 8th +/- 1 place and dork it on the last lap (while under NO pressure) . . . only the Gods know this one.

Race 2 on NA server landed me in a much faster lobby with another BAD (not quite POOR) at Q11. Some sort of start glitch had the field bunched up on the back straightaway (before the final S turns) but this glitch got me to P8 crossing the line at the start and pretty much the entire race. Of course last lap took me wide on T1 helping P6 get away and P8 to take my previous P7. It took me almost 3 seconds to get back on the track and up to race speed. Oh well still a good race finish at P8.

So here is my rant for today . . . if the racer in front of you comes across your nose (totally his fault) it might be "fair" if you lift a little so you don't spin him around. Right? Sitting in P6 a Greek in P7 was nose swiped (unintentional but still my fault) which I believe I could have recovered from (and would have given him the position due to my slow pace) but he didn't lift. Why? It angered me so much that it fueled my racing to catch him from 10 seconds down going for a wreckfest finished. Luckily by the time I caught him he was not doing well keeping it on the track and it made sense to pass cleanly and let the matter pass. But I have to ask, is the need to win that important? We are talking P6 & P7, both us would get good finishes with points so why not lift?

Rant over, enjoyed today's races (not sure how DR worked out but I do know SR is still maxed out!). Enjoy your races!

 

[Famine]

Weird race.

Guy I never saw after lap two and who I never touched (because I only had contact with one car - which you'll see subsequently) called me a "clown" twice after the race, guy who was in a Red Bull-liveried car tried to force me off track on the pit "straight" after he'd just served a penalty, then brake-checked me, then tried to divebomb at turn three and missed.

Not confident I'll run that one again.

Did, benefitted from a massive mess at T3 (I did lose position, but a lot of cars behind lost a lot of time) and then T10, ran nine laps in 4th.

 

[Moose78]

I ran the 11AM EST GT2 slot in the Americas. Mixed lobby -- mostly B/S with a sprinkling of A/Ss. I was in door 8, with 135 points up for grabs.

It seems my concerns about pace were overblown. I qualified Q2 with a time of 1:54.9.

In the race, P3 got a run on me right off the start and easily got by me going into T1. I had no problem keeping up with them, though, at least for the first couple laps. That's when I cut the corner to the chicane for a 1-second penalty. I lost a position on lap 3 serving it, falling to P4.

Nothing much happened for a while after that. The P1 and P2 cars ran off. The P3 driver and me stayed close, and we built a gap of about 8 seconds to the cars behind.

Then, on lap 7, the P3 driver took their turn cutting the chicane for a 1-second penalty. I took P3 back when they served it.

There was a good 10-second gap to the cars ahead, and thanks to the car behind going off the track on lap 9, a 6-second gap there. I figured the race was pretty much over.

As I crested the hill at the end of the straight on lap 10, a yellow flag alert popped up. As I came over the top, I found one of the lead cars in the back corner of the sand, frantically trying to get back on the track. It turns out the two lead cars had been embroiled in some fight that ended with one torpedoing the other at the chicane.

The sprint to the finish was on. They got the car back on the track way ahead of me, but with the dirty tires and no momentum, I was catching up quick.

I ran my best line, but it wasn't quite enough. Finished P3 for 124 points.

This was a much better result than I was expecting for today, and leaves me a pretty good position points-wise going into the last two rounds. That's a relief, because I am not feeling all that confident about Sardenga or Interlagos.

I won't be doing this one again.

 

[AdxRE]

Did GT1 slot #1 at EMEA. All DR A lobby. Got track limit penalty in my first Quali flying lap (basically written off my entire Quali session, guys don’t be like me) so started dead last at 14th.

Race went largely well, I managed quite a number of passes and with people serving penalties, I actually reached 3rd by the start of Lap 10, on track for a “Last to Podium” story.

Then this happened. I just rode the T3 curb as I did for the last 9 laps (18:00 at the video) and - 1 sec track limit penalty.

Watching the replay I don’t think I really cross the line but the game decided I did so that was that.

Finished 6th with 2nd-5th right in front. Quite disappointing after what’s been an okay-ish drive.

Kudos to everyone in the lobby for the very clean race!

Full Race below.

 

[Bullwinkle]

Why are there so few GT1 slots, and two hours apart? I don’t understand why we don’t get more opportunities to have fun.

 

[Moose78]

Why are there so few GT1 slots, and two hours apart? I don’t understand why we don’t get more opportunities to have fun.

I'd guess it is because the pool of players in GT1 is smaller than GT2 and GT3. They have to reduce the number of slots to ensure that they have enough players in each one to ensure close matching.

 

[SPL170db]

Managed to get my practice laptime down to a 1:52.895....big improvement from where I initially started. I can only run the first NA slot today so I hope I can make it a good one.

 

[Pfei]

Why are there so few GT1 slots, and two hours apart? I don’t understand why we don’t get more opportunities to have fun.

I don't mind there being fewer slots, but why do they all have to be in the evening? A mid-day, a mid-afternoon and an evening slot would be much better.

 

[GlockPants]

Fun race today! Almost came away with the win, too. One more lap or one mistake less, I'd have had it.

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GT2 - A/B Lobby worth 143 points.
Door #12

My strategy for qualifying was to be one of the first out of the pits. I was more or less successful and made pole with a time of 1:53.936. Q2 was about 7 tenths behind.

The race went well, but I made two mistakes that cost me the win. Only one would've been recoverable. Lap 2, T1 I ran just a little wide and got onto the grass. P2 got around clean while P3 closed the gap. Then same lap, while defending my position into the chicane, I took an inside line and cut the corner a little too deep and took a 1 second penalty.

The rest of the race was very fast and smooth. I was setting Fastest Lap almost every successive lap. Lap 10 was a 1:53.859.

I was gaining hard on P1 but ultimately couldn't close the rest of the gap and finished 0.261 seconds behind. One of my closest races online. However, P3 finished 15 seconds behind us.

P2 earned me 137 points and I called it a day there. I've had bad luck getting into high point lobbies, so an outright win in a later race has no guarantee to improve my result.