Gran Turismo World Series (Nations Cup Exhibition Season: Jan 22 - Feb 1)

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It definitely seems weird to go through all the effort to make custom weather, and then have the rain not hit during the race. Could be another PD moment, or maybe... Well, in past custom weather races, the race weather has either been the same as the practice/qualifying weather, or completely different. Maybe they're doing the logical thing and making the race weather just be a continuation of qualifying? In that case the rain would hit during the race. Well, I guess there's only one way to find out, time to watch Asia/Oceania streams again! Your sacrifice is appreciated.

(Speaking of effort, why put those sausage curbs there in the chicane if the optimal line is just to drive right over them...?)
 
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On my WRX the tires go off by the end of lap 9. Fortunately, the GT3 races went well in terms of scoring points.
yeah, you're right, there are still cars with heavy tyre wear that will have to save their tyres. So the WRX is one of them and I am pretty sure that the Mazda 3 will have issues. On the other hand the McLaren can make it to the end easily and IMO that car is the META for this track. The Ferrari will do well to....
 
I wrote the description before watching and posting the video.

The attached screenshot is the narrowest the space I left was. The guy fully pulled aside of me and applied left steering input and hit me intentionally. That’s what he did, at the time from VR POV it felt like a pit. It was worse than that.

I left the space, he took it in the least clean way possible, I was literally centered on the track with centered steering input and never even got to apply right input to turn. He didn’t even give me the chance to go two wide. He chose his side to pass and did it dirty before I could react.

Even considering i left the space it’s his responsibility not to blast me off the track when he was clearly given space by me. This isn’t the Nurburgring where I have to signal and pull off.

What are you talking about? You can even see he punted me BEFORE the turn so he could have a clean shot at it.
He only turned left AFTER you'd squeezed him onto the grass. He was just steering back onto the track, and you'd left an impossibly small gap, such that's there no way he could realisticly be expected to manouver off the grass into that gap without hitting you.

Whether you actually left a car width or not I can't tell from the video, but if you did, you certainly didn't leave a car width plus enough margin to allow him to safely get passed. Remember you're not racing against Lewis Hamilton in real life, you're racing against an amateur gamer who could be driving by wiggling their joystick in front of the TV while using Bumper cam mode.

Watch your on board view from 5s until the impact, you're clearly angling across the track from left to right, in the process squeezing him into an impossibly small gap. Watch the black lines down the center of the track.

He didn't have plenty of opportunity to back out, he was gradually squeezed off the track. It's perfectly resonable to expect the driver moving across to stop coming across before the gap's too small to safely go through. No way he had a chance to move to the left, by the time Supafly had moved across to close the gap it was way too late to switch sides.

If he was clearly blocked, then yes. But it was such a vague meander down the middle then slowly drifting right to squeeze out the passing car he's just asking for trouble.

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In the VR portion of the replay you can see me checking to see which way he’s going to pass, he chooses right and makes contact with my right rear before he even leaves the POV of the rear view camera in the cockpit of my car... I had zero point zero seconds to react to the move... I didn't "realize he was there" because he made contact before he got there. Literally watch the replay...

you can tell the exact instant when he makes contact because my FFB yanks my steering a little to the left, at that point he is still in my rearview camera
I had the same assessment as @MetalApe and @watto79. This was a racing incident down to closing space. You essentially pitted yourself. Most of the time you stick a wheel on the grass and you're going for a spin. As they were squeezed here and their car suddenly turned left it was most likely a loss of grip in their rear right tyre which caused it. I'd bet it was 99% not a dirty move from them.
Please don’t tell PD have given us weather for the final race in Manus and then they go and script the weather to start after the race has finished?
Just done some laps today for Gardens to find a setup, and see what the weather did. Found out they are no setups so make a bit easier, but the Gr4 Supra feels very understeery for me, and the weather doesn’t come….?

My times were awful as I was watching football at the same time, but this is the end of lap 14 and that big band of weather is a few miles away. Not sure if the weather will move faster in the race but I can comfortably do the 14 laps before rain.View attachment 1317391
That fact it can rain at Dragon Trail is news to me.
 
That fact it can rain at Dragon Trail is news to me.
Yeah just at Gardens. The seaside track doesn’t have rain for some reason. I guess as Gardens doesn’t get used much it’s missed.

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So hearing it is now 11 laps for GT2, makes this race sound really boring. So not tested the tyres, but I assume they will last the race here. Weather….well it’s not going to rain is it.
As for GT1 league, 15 laps i don’t think it will rain either. The Gr3 cars are faster a lap, and even with a pit stop (if they have too) don’t think the rain will come.

If the TT weather is correct then it’s dry, unless PD adjust the speed.
 
So not tested the tyres, but I assume they will last the race here.
in the McLaren I will have no trouble but will still be using some rear brake bias since the front right gets all the work on this track, wasn't even really close, its a full on no strat sprint for me so i'm really hoping for some nasty rain

e: an unrelated question that I think I know the answer to but am also not sure where I remember hearing this so it could be totally wrong: Your car number (the one that goes on your car sticker in the race), is that your DR ranking in the lobby? Like in my Nurburgring race I had #1 and in Bathurst I had #12. Would I have been the #1 and #12 ranked driver by DR rating going into the race in those lobbies or am I totally off base?
 
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in the McLaren I will have no trouble but will still be using some rear brake bias since the front right gets all the work on this track, wasn't even really close, its a full on no strat sprint for me so i'm really hoping for some nasty rain

e: an unrelated question that I think I know the answer to but am also not sure where I remember hearing this so it could be totally wrong: Your car number (the one that goes on your car sticker in the race), is that your DR ranking in the lobby? Like in my Nurburgring race I had #1 and in Bathurst I had #12. Would I have been the #1 and #12 ranked driver by DR rating going into the race in those lobbies or am I totally off base?
Cool, will do some proper tyre testing later tonight I think. Going to do a few laps in wet weather too, just in case PD spring a surprise

Yeah the GTWS door number is the number assign depending on your DR score.
example. If we are both say DR B, but I had 50k DR points, and you have 49k points, i would be door #1 and you would be #2. In the next race say I enter the lobby with 45k but you had 49k still, i would be car #2 and you would be #1.
In the Bathurst race i was #16, so i was the lowest ranked driver in that race.
 
Round 3, Mount Panorama, North America GT1 League, 7:00pm slot. Corvette Gr.3.

I've never had much luck at this track in the past, the mountain always gets me. Even on the medium slick the track feels like driving on ice with many slippery corner exits. I decided to choose my tire strategy based on starting position, and I qualified right in the middle at P8. I decided to start on the mediums because there's nothing worse than being mid pack on inferior tires.

The race start was drama free for me, and I focused on avoiding penalties. Some cars ahead started on Hards and peeled off to put early. I ran my mediums until lap 12 then made my stop. This was a mostly uneventful race, besides a near miss with a penalized car on ConRod Straight, and a last lap collision behind me entering The Chase. Smooth driving and patience helped me to a P4 finish and 193 points. Replay below;

 
Yeah the GTWS door number is the number assign depending on your DR score.
example. If we are both say DR B, but I had 50k DR points, and you have 49k points, i would be door #1 and you would be #2. In the next race say I enter the lobby with 45k but you had 49k still, i would be car #2 and you would be #1.
In the Bathurst race i was #16, so i was the lowest ranked driver in that race.
Awesome, thanks. I thought this was how it worked but was unsure. I definitely felt like #1 and #12 in my races respectively for sure. Fighting for my life on pure pace since getting promoted to B rating haha.
 
So I went twice this weekend.


The first time was kinda bad. Was door #13 (of 14) and I qualified 8th after a pretty sad qualifying session. Had a couple of mishaps early on (like, lap 1 turn1 early) and overall the race was a disappointment. One thing I did figure out was the last lap would begin around the 45km mark. That was key for me as I drive in VR and the BMW does not have a lap counter. I just have car information on so I don’t have a big digital readout floating in the sky; I can focus on driving. This was the same lobby as @icycls and @A_Higher_Place . Love that Mazda Livery

I did finish in the top half of the field and my DR did go up slightly which is the biggest reason I was mentioning this race.


After I took some time to practice and get back in my groove, I went again for the 7:00PM heat.


First off, I was the lowest door number in the room . . . but it was a faster lobby.

This time qualifying goes well. I had a Mustang behind me who pushed my pace, but the mountains turned out to be my best friend.

Qualified 2nd behind another BMW. Cue heart pounding pressure.

I made the decision to start on mediums (last time I started on hard tires) and hoped to follow the other BMW into the pits. How-EV-ver . . . they had an issue during lap 1 which resulted in a penalty served in lap 2 . . . putting me into the lead. Happy to be in the front I was; pit strategy now destroyed now am. #YodaSpeak

Plan B.

I drove clean and fast and slowly pulled away from the rest of the lobby; I’d even opened up quite a lead! But you know how this goes . . .

The two worst leads in sport are a) a two-goal lead in Hockey and b) a several second lead in motorsports.

Going into the mountains I gave a little bit too much gas . . . turning directly into the wall. I pull myself together and keep moving, but I have both aero and suspension damage. By my kilometer strategy, I have to finish this lap and at least another one before I pit. Knuckling down I pressed onward through the rest of the lap . . . serving a 1.5 second penalty.

Now there’s a blue triangle on my no-longer-clear-long-range radar. Poop emoji.

By the time I got into the pits I recognized the yellow AMG in my rear-view mirror I fought at Watkins Glen. “Great,” I said aloud. “This will be another fight to the finish.” All this when I thought I had the thing pretty much sewn up.

We both enter the pits – I have a grand total of .003 seconds worth of repairs to do – and I exit behind him by several car lengths. I recalled @Tidgney doing a vid on pit stops for each car and start swearing under my breath so the folks upstairs don’t hear me. I push to the best of my ability, but the AMG keeps pulling away. I decide just to do what I can and settle into a second place finish. ‘Cept is wasn’t.

Turns out the AMG driver forgot to take on tires which explained a) why he got out ahead of me and b) why he was able to pull away. He came from last place in the lobby to do so! With the penalty for tires assessed, I was first. Result!


I decided to retire for the evening after shouting so loud I’m pretty sure my neighbors could hear me.



TL;DR: Poor first race, first in second race. Because tire change.
 
Once again I didn't have the talent to get it done on my first attempt...

Slot 1: Once again I was paired up with @Spider-Racer, and once again I didn't see him once since he was at the front and I was floundering around at the back like a moron :banghead:. This time my stupidity started in qualifying when I picked up a penalty in "The Toe" on my first hot lap. This was literally just before the penalty zone, so I then had to wait until my 2nd flying lap to serve it, completely ruining any chance I had of even avoiding starting dead last. Fortunately I had @Geauxgreddy for company at the very back of the grid just ahead of me in the other Corvette (can't remember the last time I wasn't the only Corvette in one of these races).

Despite knowing I had the pace to be well inside the Top 10, I couldn't even get out of last place for the first few laps. Overtaking difficulties were the name of the game the whole race, just waiting for those in front to trip over each other. I also got run into in The Toe and picked up rear wing damage, which didn't seem to hurt my performance as I was easily able to catch back up to the cars I was battling with after recovering. Me and Greddy were stuck in a 4-car battle for not-last for the entire race, and I finally caught up to him at the head of our train on the final lap, battling for either P9 or P10, but he's frustratingly good at defending :lol:, so despite getting up the inside after the Bus Stop, I couldn't make anything happen. That allowed another car to get between us, then headed into The Toe I went on the defense from the Mazda that rear-ended me in the same spot earlier, and I understeered and accidentally pushed him off track, so I slowed down to wait and that ended any chance I had at an interesting (though still horrible) finish and I decided to quit from P12 of 13 rather than bothering with finishing with such a terrible result.

Slot 2: I managed to not be an idiot in qualifying this time and grabbed P7 on the grid, right in front of a very fast friend in an AMG. On Lap 2 he unfortunately got wiped out at the exit of T1, so I had a few laps of breathing room. On Lap 4 I caught up to a Ferrari in the esses and he signaled me to pass, so I went up to P6 at the Bus Stop and opened up a small gap and tried to save my tires since I clearly wasn't gaining on anyone ahead. Another AMG eventually got by the Ferrari as well and started to reel me back in, not helped by me picking up a track limits penalty at T1. Fortunately for me he also had a penalty he had to serve from the previous lap, but unfortunately a GT-R managed to jump both of us, pulling off an outside pass on me at The Heel. The GT-R then lost it on the outside curb at T1 the following lap, handing P6 back to me. At the same time, the AMG picked up a track limits penalty at T1, but I couldn't take advantage because I nearly spun myself out at the slow left-hander after The Toe. Still, I had enough of a gap that I didn't have to defend for at least a couple more laps. Then on Lap 12 we BOTH picked up a track limits penalty at T1, and we stayed status quo after serving our penalties. On Lap 13 he finally got by when I bounced a bit too hard over the final curb in the Bus Stop and couldn't get to the inside of the loop in time to defend, but he then got loose under braking for The Toe and I retook the position. By now it was clear I was on worse tires, and our battling brought another GT-R into the mix, so the final 2 laps I was defending for my life and backing the corners up to get as straight of an exit as possible to take advantage of the Corvette's naturally better acceleration. Ultimately I was able to barely hold on to P6 for 250 points. It was a decent result, but I felt my Rose Bowl livery deserved better; unfortunately neither the car nor me were capable of anything better... That's also probably me done for the season until Nation's, since I'm horrible at Bathurst and doubt I'm much better at DTG.

Anyway enjoy some pictures from Slot 2:


Passing the Ferrari for P6 on Lap 4 (see if you can spot the AMG that would be all over my bumper later...)
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Side-by-side up the esses after the AMG got a better exit out of T1 (by exceeding track limits and picking up a penalty) before the Corvette's power advantage took over and I pulled in front again.
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Losing the spot in the Outer Loop on Lap 13:
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Gaining it right back at The Toe:
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Through the Bus Stop on Lap 14:
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6th, 7th, and 8th at the finish.
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One more just because I like this shot :D:
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Great racing with you as usual @GTWolverine, but I came here mostly to say, Congrats on the National Championship! Geaux Big Blue! Hopefully we'll see ya Wednesday.
 
Tried a few different ways, and a no-stop is out of the question in the GT3 458 if trying to maintain a somewhat competitive pace. The tires start dying on lap 12, and they’re completely gone by the end of lap 14.


Think a 1-stop and pushing the entire time is my only strat. Hopefully I’m able to catch guys out in the closing laps. Pace seems decent on tires despite wear through lap 10 in my testing, so when to pit will just be a matter of timing it with traffic. Thank god I have a track map available in VR so I can see everyone’s positions 🙄

Pit loss is ~22 seconds. So I’m going to have to push like hell the entire time, and hope for mistakes and traffic on my competitors end to have a chance at the money





On another note, I’ve already started low-key testing for next season. Barring any massive BOP or physics changes, I think I have my dark-horse picked out
 
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Tried a few different ways, and a no-stop is out of the question in the GT3 458 if trying to maintain a somewhat competitive pace. The tires start dying on lap 12, and they’re completely gone by the end of lap 14.


Think a 1-stop and pushing the entire time is my only strat. Hopefully I’m able to catch guys out in the closing laps. Pace seems decent on tires despite wear through lap 10 in my testing, so when to pit will just be a matter of timing it with traffic. Thank god I have a track map available in VR so I can see everyone’s positions 🙄

Pit loss is ~22 seconds. So I’m going to have to push like hell the entire time, and hope for mistakes and traffic on my competitors end to have a chance at the money





On another note, I’ve already started low-key testing for next season. Barring any massive BOP or physics changes, I think I have my dark-horse picked out
Best of luck tomorrow! I will go non-stop with my Porsche, left tyres are still at about 5% at the end.

About the track map, was it irony?
 
Best of luck tomorrow! I will go non-stop with my Porsche, left tyres are still at about 5% at the end.

About the track map, was it irony?

In regards to the track map, 100%. I’m not really one to complain anymore than I’m willing to admit….





BUT!!!!



No information available on the HUD of where other cars are on the track and/or when others pit and what tires they were on have screwed up strategy more than once the past year. Before I went to VR, I used to figure out the pit loss time and subtract that time from a lap…and figure out where that was on the track. It would help me decide when to go for under/over cuts as well as figure out other people’s pit strategies around me. The delta’s were often helpful as well, but not 100% necessary
 
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In regards to the track map, 100%. I’m not really one to complain anymore than I’m willing to admit….





BUT!!!!



No information available on the HUD of where other cars are on the track and/or when others pit and what tires they were on have screwed up strategy more than once the past year. Before I went to VR, I used to figure out the pit loss time and subtract that time from a lap…and figure out where that was on the track. It would help me decide when to go for under/over cuts as well as figure out other people’s pit strategies around me. The delta’s were often helpful as well, but not 100% necessary
I agree, although I haven't got to that point of strategy, but the VR hud is missing important information. Hopefully an UI update will fix it but i'm afraid that in Kaz's mind VR is for cruising not racing and they won't change a thing. Wish I'm wrong.
 
No information available on the HUD of where other cars are on the track and/or when others pit and what tires they were on have screwed up strategy more than once the past year. Before I went to VR, I used to figure out the pit loss time and subtract that time from a lap…and figure out where that was on the track. It would help me decide when to go for under/over cuts as well as figure out other people’s pit strategies around me. The delta’s were often helpful as well, but not 100% necessary
you can see me, in a race where i ended up 4th, almost ragequit (end of lap 6 around the start line in the VR replay of my Bathurst race) because i have no frame of reference as to where i am or what anyone else is doing at any given time. i've had to change my whole mindset to just drive each corner one at a time and put together a whole clean race best i can and hope i'm doing the right thing

the only time i had any idea of what anyone else was doing that race was when i was second in a four person pack on lap 14 of 14 and realizing that i'm lifting to maintain position, so i must be on mediums and they must all be on hards
 
Best of luck tomorrow! I will go non-stop with my Porsche, left tyres are still at about 5% at the end.

About the track map, was it irony?
Are you good at tire saving? Also using the Porsche and i doubt mine will make it to the end without any chance.

Edit: Are you in GT2? Because then it makes more sense.
 
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Tried a few different ways, and a no-stop is out of the question in the GT3 458 if trying to maintain a somewhat competitive pace. The tires start dying on lap 12, and they’re completely gone by the end of lap 14.


Think a 1-stop and pushing the entire time is my only strat. Hopefully I’m able to catch guys out in the closing laps. Pace seems decent on tires despite wear through lap 10 in my testing, so when to pit will just be a matter of timing it with traffic. Thank god I have a track map available in VR so I can see everyone’s positions 🙄

Pit loss is ~22 seconds. So I’m going to have to push like hell the entire time, and hope for mistakes and traffic on my competitors end to have a chance at the money





On another note, I’ve already started low-key testing for next season. Barring any massive BOP or physics changes, I think I have my dark-horse picked out

Just watch the first run through the chicane on fresh tires 🫣
After trying it in custom race a few times I feel more confident running a no stop with the 911 just because I muffed the chicane with new tires more often than not 🙄

GL to everyone tomorrow.


@PMK
911 can no stop pretty easily in GT1
 
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This might be just me but:

DRAGON TRAIL GARDENS IS THE BIGGEST ABOMINATION IN ANY RACING SIM EVER!

The track is full of stupid, frustrating, pointless little quirks and has literally no redeeming features.
The sausage chicane? So random and dumb.
The kerbs that want to kill you? Why?
The multiple consecutive apex turns? Torture.
Let’s burn it to the ground and forget it ever existed!
It will be a miracle if I get through this evening’s race with a still functioning TV and wheel.

Anyway, how’s everyone else’s practice going?
 
This might be just me but:

DRAGON TRAIL GARDENS IS THE BIGGEST ABOMINATION IN ANY RACING SIM EVER!

The track is full of stupid, frustrating, pointless little quirks and has literally no redeeming features.
The sausage chicane? So random and dumb.
The kerbs that want to kill you? Why?
The multiple consecutive apex turns? Torture.
Let’s burn it to the ground and forget it ever existed!
It will be a miracle if I get through this evening’s race with a still functioning TV and wheel.

Anyway, how’s everyone else’s practice going?
I hit FP and custom races today for about 90 minutes. Really haven’t had much driving experiences on Gardens, even in GTS. I kind of avoided it like the plague. All be honest, I like this track fire than DT seaside. That first chicane is pretty awkward, but no more awkward than Catalunya w/chicane. My strategy in regards to the chicane is to not kill myself trying to cut it. The way I see it, whatever pace I lose by not trying to nail it, I’ll gain impositions from people flubbing it and getting sent into the bleachers.

I gotta wake up at 1:40amand hit the first oceanic slot before I head off to work, as that’s all the racing I’ll be able to get in. Good luck out there in the Americas slots 👍🏼
 
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This might be just me but:

DRAGON TRAIL GARDENS IS THE BIGGEST ABOMINATION IN ANY RACING SIM EVER!

The track is full of stupid, frustrating, pointless little quirks and has literally no redeeming features.
The sausage chicane? So random and dumb.
The kerbs that want to kill you? Why?
The multiple consecutive apex turns? Torture.
Let’s burn it to the ground and forget it ever existed!
It will be a miracle if I get through this evening’s race with a still functioning TV and wheel.

Anyway, how’s everyone else’s practice going?
I hate every corner in that track. It was made with the intention to kill tyres first, track flow later. Every bump is an invitation to potential wheelspin if you're not careful enough with the TC. I'm surprised it's not talked a lot about how dreadful the track really.

I tried a test run with tyre wear with the BRZ, it's only on the last 3 laps where traction was an issue, with the last lap having the front right tyre being dead. Maybe it would be like Rd.2?
 
On another note, I’ve already started low-key testing for next season. Barring any massive BOP or physics changes, I think I have my dark-horse picked out
Try picking a manu at random next time. Much less stress/expectations and I wager your results will end up same-ish in the end.

Take it from someone who has driven for 22/27 manufacturers. No matter what car I get around 150-200 points per race (discounting bad races where I crash or get punted). It's way more fun to use a less common car and learning how to drive around its quirks and weaknesses :P
This might be just me but:

DRAGON TRAIL GARDENS IS THE BIGGEST ABOMINATION IN ANY RACING SIM EVER!

The track is full of stupid, frustrating, pointless little quirks and has literally no redeeming features.
The sausage chicane? So random and dumb.
The kerbs that want to kill you? Why?
The multiple consecutive apex turns? Torture.
Let’s burn it to the ground and forget it ever existed!
It will be a miracle if I get through this evening’s race with a still functioning TV and wheel.

Anyway, how’s everyone else’s practice going?
The quad apex turn is pretty unique IMO. It's based on Turkey's Turn 8 (which is also copied by COTA Turn 16-18).



I agree the sausage chicane is dumb. But it's mostly the fault of the game's lenient track limits and lack of suspension damage modelling. IRL if you try to take it like in game, you'd end up like this...

 
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Gardens has interesting ideas, but the execution is all wrong. The esses are weirdly spaced, the multi-apex turn is too slow, and the less said about the chicane, its curbs, and its track limits, the better. It has Cape Ring vibes to me, i.e. the vibes of a bunch of corners who just met each other for the first time.
 
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This might be just me but:

DRAGON TRAIL GARDENS IS THE BIGGEST ABOMINATION IN ANY RACING SIM EVER!

The track is full of stupid, frustrating, pointless little quirks and has literally no redeeming features.
The sausage chicane? So random and dumb.
The kerbs that want to kill you? Why?
The multiple consecutive apex turns? Torture.
Let’s burn it to the ground and forget it ever existed!
It will be a miracle if I get through this evening’s race with a still functioning TV and wheel.

Anyway, how’s everyone else’s practice going?
Hahaha totally agree.
In my practice I died twice on those sausages kerbs
The hairpin I messed up a few times by running deep a little
The S’s are tricky to carry the speed, and making sure you get on the power early but also to not spin on exit or run too wide on the run off area
Then the quad right hander again speed is key, but too much and your running too wide, or too slow your getting a poor exit.

Thought Mount Panaroma was easier at the weekend


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So as I suspected. Watch a GT1 Asia race and PD have scripted wet weather that doesn’t arrive in time. I mean well done PD on that.
So both races for GT1 & GT2/3 are no stops with no rain. The GT1 race I saw have very worn tyres in the Genesis. Tyre saving might be a factor for GT1
 
I feel a lot better about this track now I know the rest of you are finding it so tricky as well. I was feeling like I was going to be in trouble in the race as I can't get comfortable getting the lines right consistently, but knowing you're all having the same trouble then I can enjoy the challenge of trying to do a less bad job of it than my rivals. Watching Omega's live stream even he runs wide on the exit of esses on Lap 1.
Try picking a manu at random next time. Much less stress/expectations and I wager your results will end up same-ish in the end.

Take it from someone who has driven for 22/27 manufacturers. No matter what car I get around 150-200 points per race (discounting bad races where I crash or get punted). It's way more fun to use a less common car and learning how to drive around its quirks and weaknesses
It's weird that for the dailys I don't want to race in anything other than the car that gives me the best chance of a good result. But I agree with you for the manufactuers races, I feel like picking something random and different for the fun of it. This time I only picked Ferrari because I'd just watched the film.
 
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