Gran Turismo World Series (Nations Cup Exhibition Season: Jan 22 - Feb 1)

[OJBrit]

I got some people upset with me in my first race. While sitting on the grid, I adjusted my traction control and my car got put in reverse. I didn't notice and the first car drove through me while I was ghosted, the next one nailed me as I unghosted. Luckily I'm in a GT2 lobby so the damage was minimal as far as ruining ones race, still feel like a noob for it. Just have to remember not to adjust TC while sitting on the grid for a Grid Start.

I've done it many times with no issues to my starting gear. It may depend on the controller setup though.

 

[Talon16]

For those who've had a chance to practice, how many laps are you getting out of the RS tires?

Also, seems advantages to start on RMs then go to RS with a lighter car (thus adding a lap or two of use), regardless of what position you qualify. Might be risky though as not everyone will do that so if you're Q2 for example, and Q3, Q4, & Q5 are on RS you will probably get punted.

 

[GlockPants]

Also, seems advantages to start on RMs then go to RS with a lighter car (thus adding a lap or two of use), regardless of what position you qualify. Might be risky though as not everyone will do that so if you're Q2 for example, and Q3, Q4, & Q5 are on RS you will probably get punted.

Makes me wonder if PD could add to the HUD what tires other cars are on. Either on the position board or maybe on the banners that show above opponent cars.

 

[SupaflyIRL]

I'm gonna watch an Asia/Oceanland replay because i was pretty sure i was going to get 15 laps on softs after single player practice but was closer to 10-12 in online lobby racing but not sure if they had the settings right.

My question: the real race allows overtake boost correct? are there any "overtake button for idiots" suggestions on how to use it strategically? aside from using it to overtake obviously, more asking for pace suggestions since im not sure how many actual overtake opportunities i'll have

 

[Talon16]

Makes me wonder if PD could add to the HUD what tires other cars are on. Either on the position board or maybe on the banners that show above opponent cars.

They absolutely should, just like they do in F1. Just add it to the leader board area so you can see.

 

[jimihemmy]

I got some people upset with me in my first race. While sitting on the grid, I adjusted my traction control and my car got put in reverse. I didn't notice and the first car drove through me while I was ghosted, the next one nailed me as I unghosted. Luckily I'm in a GT2 lobby so the damage was minimal as far as ruining ones race, still feel like a noob for it. Just have to remember not to adjust TC while sitting on the grid for a Grid Start.

I noticed I was in reverse just before the green light and panic shifted twice to start in 2nd (which may not have been a bad thing). I know I also switched TC but I don't know if that had a effect on it.

I only noticed because of the starting in reverse mention earlier.

I am on DD Pro if that helps.

They absolutely should, just like they do in F1. Just add it to the leader board area so you can see.

Or just like they show on the GTWS events. I don't know why they don't use that. And it would be most helpful in VR!

 

[Zorz]

My question: the real race allows overtake boost correct? are there any "overtake button for idiots" suggestions on how to use it strategically? aside from using it to overtake obviously, more asking for pace suggestions since im not sure how many actual overtake opportunities i'll have

If I'm using it for pace, I'll use a small burst at the start of long acceleration zones each lap just to get up to speed sooner and carry that benefit the whole way. I wouldn't use it for higher top speed unless its very late in the race and you still have a LOT of overtake to burn off.

I also tend to hold off on the overtake in the first stint, other than a short burst off the grid start to try counteract people behind using theirs to be opportunistic into turn 1.

YMMV, but I've found holding onto your overtake for later can result in lots of easy passes after people tend to spread out. It can also pressure some people into mistakes when your pace suddenly shoots up and they have no overtake left.

For Interlagos, I'm personally only planning on using it for pace coming out of the last bend for the run up to the start/finish line but I could see some people potentially using it on the run down to turn 4 as well.

 

[SupaflyIRL]

If I'm using it for pace, I'll use a small burst at the start of long acceleration zones each lap just to get up to speed sooner and carry that benefit the whole way. I wouldn't use it for higher top speed unless its very late in the race and you still have a LOT of overtake to burn off.

I also tend to hold off on the overtake in the first stint, other than a short burst off the grid start to try counteract people behind using theirs to be opportunistic into turn 1.

YMMV, but I've found holding onto your overtake for later can result in lots of easy passes after people tend to spread out. It can also pressure some people into mistakes when your pace suddenly shoots up and they have no overtake left.

For Interlagos, I'm personally only planning on using it for pace coming out of the last bend for the run up to the start/finish line but I could see some people potentially using it on the run down to turn 4 as well.

this is exactly what i was thinking, which was influenced by thinking about how the 919 evo acceleration boost was preprogrammed for the record lap on the ring for pace

my primary reason for preserving would be to have it available for late race defense. I was racing against a slightly faster racer last night and was able to hold them off cleanly for around 10 laps (until i spun myself by dipping a rear off track) and was using short bursts for turn entry defense and turn exit advantage

 

[Moose78]

I've been doing some strategy tests using Custom Races for the 20-lap GT2/3 race. Here are how things are looking from the tests I've run so far:

Strategy	Race time
1RM-19RS	27:01.590
5RM-15RS	26:44.173
7RM-13RS	27:00.821
9RM-11RS	27:03.202

A few comments/observations from my practice:

• The RS could last the entire race without changing them, if that were allowed. There is ~10-20% left on the tires at the end of the race when I tried. I was often still setting best sector times on the RSs in laps 15-18 and didn't see any appreciable impact on lap time until laps 19 and 20, and even then it seemed quite small.
• My fastest lap in Free Practice is 1:16.500, but in race conditions my good laps are in the low 1:18s on RS and low 1:19s on RM. I expect this is going to be on the slow end of mid-B lobbies.
• My best time so far is with the 5RM-15RS strategy, but I was having an unusually fast (for me) and consistent race for that one. Not sure how much of the difference is from my hot streak and how much from the strategy.
• If my practice with AI cars in Custom Races are any indication, lap 1 -- and especially the first trip through Senna S -- is bound to be chaotic. I wonder if it might be smart to skip qualifying and run from the back to avoid some of it and pick up positions from cars getting pushed off the track and serving track limit penalties.
• I'm not sure if it just a coincidence or something with the tire physics, but I've noticed that I'm having a surprisingly large amount of track excursions and crashes on the 6th lap of being on a set of tires. Doesn't seem to matter whether it is RMs or RSs. Not having problems on laps before or after.
• As I expect to be on the slow end of the pace, in the race I'm going to try to focus on keeping the car on the track and avoiding the chaos.

 

[mobilmasher]

I noticed I was in reverse just before the green light and panic shifted twice to start in 2nd (which may not have been a bad thing). I know I also switched TC but I don't know if that had a effect on it.

I only noticed because of the starting in reverse mention earlier.

I am on DD Pro if that helps.


Or just like they show on the GTWS events. I don't know why they don't use that. And it would be most helpful in VR!

I am also using a DD Pro and adjusting my TC was the only thing I did while waiting for the start. I don't think my settings had anything to do with it and my controller was on the table with nothing close by to be possible cause.

• I'm not sure if it just a coincidence or something with the tire physics, but I've noticed that I'm having a surprisingly large amount of track excursions and crashes on the 6th lap of being on a set of tires. Doesn't seem to matter whether it is RMs or RSs. Not having problems on laps before or after.

I've noticed this a few updates ago, around the 6th or 7th lap there would be a drastic temperary reduction in tire grip.

 

[GlockPants]

@Moose78

If RS tires could last an entire race, would a 19RS/1RM be viable?

In my experience, worn soft tires are typically faster than new medium tires.

 

[SupaflyIRL]

I had the same experience in offline custom races that after 15 laps “could” and “should” start blending. I also was getting less tire life than that in online lobby racing.

My fronts are cooked and I can’t hold flat out downforce turns after that whereas I can with the mediums after they warm up.

 

[bliprunner]

Had a 30 lap race, after 16 on softs my laptimes were 1 sec down from my best, the final 14 on mediums were good though, maybe just 2-3 tenths off the softs (no doubt lower fuel helped). TC1, ABS weak.

Will probably run soft->med in case of damage in the early laps.

 

[Moose78]

If RS tires could last an entire race, would a 19RS/1RM be viable?

Based off of what I've seen in the offline custom races, I would think so, but as @SupaflyIRL noticed,

I also was getting less tire life than that in online lobby racing.

I haven't tried any online lobbies, so I don't have any point of reference, but I definitely felt like in the Mazda race on Wednesday that the effects of tire wear were more pronounced than they were in the offline custom races I did beforehand. Maybe there are differences between the wear models in offline versus online.

 

[GlockPants]

Based off of what I've seen in the offline custom races, I would think so, but as @SupaflyIRL noticed,

I haven't tried any online lobbies, so I don't have any point of reference, but I definitely felt like in the Mazda race on Wednesday that the effects of tire wear were more pronounced than they were in the offline custom races I did beforehand. Maybe there are differences between the wear models in offline versus online.

I tried a custom race, but it was hardly clean. I'm not as used to the default setups on these cars. Best I could say is that it's probably as good as any other tire strategy.

I might recommend the overcut if you're P2 or P3 before everyone else starts pitting.

I think the grid start is going to catch a lot of people off guard. Car launches good in TC1 though, so I'd recommend that. Then survive T1, I'll be practicing my braking point for that tomorrow.

 

[SupaflyIRL]

i am a coward and will be launching in TC2 on cold mediums with full fuel

 

[GlockPants]

i am a coward and will be launching in TC2 on cold mediums with full fuel

I'm sure there's not much difference, but I'll be switching back to TC0 after the Senna S.

 

[Moose78]

An official announcement of the official announcement for the final race has been posted here:

"Race details for the previously unannounced Round 4 of the current 'World Series - Nations Cup - 2023/24 Exhibition Series Season 2' will be released on Thursday 25 January."

Love that they're giving us a whole two days to practice for it.

 

[Wilsonson]

Practiced quite a bit for this.

Did a custom 20 lap race. Put BB at +3. After 16 laps my right rear was dead. I guess that +2 is 8s the sweet spot for even wear. I also feel like +2 and +3 make the car more stable. Looks like my tire saving skills are pretty much non existent compared to you other guys.

I usually drive without assists but here I need TC1. I crash way too often without it.

Interestingly I spun 2 times in my 4 laps on mediums. Crazy how much the tire grip matters with these high powered down force monsters. But yeah of course better throttle control would help.

In free practice I topped out at 1:15.8. My race pace was way worse though and I am way too error prone.

I am very excited for the races. Will be able to do the whole 5 races in the afternoon batch in GT3 B lobbies. Will do all of them even if I win one of the earlier ones. (won't happen)

Good luck to all and don't forget to map that DRS button. I personally put it on the circle button where the hand brake is by default.

 

[GlockPants]

An official announcement of the official announcement for the final race has been posted here:

"Race details for the previously unannounced Round 4 of the current 'World Series - Nations Cup - 2023/24 Exhibition Series Season 2' will be released on Thursday 25 January."

Love that they're giving us a whole two days to practice for it.

Fiat 500 at Daytona Tri-oval!

Kidding!

 

[Norbsthebald]

An official announcement of the official announcement for the final race has been posted here:

"Race details for the previously unannounced Round 4 of the current 'World Series - Nations Cup - 2023/24 Exhibition Series Season 2' will be released on Thursday 25 January."

Love that they're giving us a whole two days to practice for it.

Whoa PD, not so hasty! Wouldn't it be better to make an announcement of the forthcoming announcement of the announcement of the announcement?

I still want 60s sports cars at Goodwood.

 

[05XR8]

Wonder if it’s a North American circuit(the last circuit added is North American). The schedule has circuits represented from three corners of the earth(for the flat earthers out there). One from Europe, Asia and South America. Having the Gilles Villenueve circuit using the F-T1500 would be about right.

 

[tmtk]

Quick session of free practice with the Super Formula.
With my buttons' steering it is going to be a challenge to keep this car on the black part of the track.
Lap of 16.1 looks good but I doubt I will manage something like that in the qualis.

I almost feel sorry for the ones that will be racing with me (EMEA, GT3, low B/S - beware), but I love Interlagos too much to skip it.

Are you guys doing any changes to the damping ratios that are allowed?

Also, about the DRS. My Toyota doesn't have the DRS indicator that other cars equipped with this have. Also there's nothing opening in the wing when I press the assigned button. So how does it work here?

 

[Moose78]

I've done a bit more strategy testing for the GT2/3 race, and it looks like I have a new leading strategy in 2RM-18RS with an overall time of 26:34.880. I also tested the 3RM-17RS strategy, which was also pretty good with a time of 26:40.485. These were all in offline custom races, so the tire wear may not have matched what will be in the race.

From here on out, I'm going to focus on running practice races with a full field of cars, employing the boost in the straights to improve my pace.

Races are coming up soon. Good luck, everyone! May every rapid downshift leave you in the gear you intended.

 

[Pfei]

Also, about the DRS. My Toyota doesn't have the DRS indicator that other cars equipped with this have. Also there's nothing opening in the wing when I press the assigned button. So how does it work here?

The car does not have DRS. It has push-to-pass and you will see how much boost you have in the HUD.

EDIT: I think it's important to add that boost is only available in qualifying and race sessions. You will not be able to use the boost nor see it in the HUD in practice sessions.

 

[goudaj]

I've done a bit more strategy testing for the GT2/3 race, and it looks like I have a new leading strategy in 2RM-18RS with an overall time of 26:34.880. I also tested the 3RM-17RS strategy, which was also pretty good with a time of 26:40.485. These were all in offline custom races, so the tire wear may not have matched what will be in the race.

From here on out, I'm going to focus on running practice races with a full field of cars, employing the boost in the straights to improve my pace.

Races are coming up soon. Good luck, everyone! May every rapid downshift leave you in the gear you intended.

Just tried the 2RM-18RS strat in an Asia/Oceania slot, worked pretty well for me.

 

[GlockPants]

The car does not have DRS. It has push-to-pass and you will see how much boost you have in the HUD.

EDIT: I think it's important to add that boost is only available in qualifying and race sessions. You will not be able to use the boost nor see it in the HUD in practice sessions.

Qualifier has boost? I thought I saw on the Race Info screen the boost multiplier was 0.0 and for the race it's default. I assumed that meant we won't have boost to qualify.

 

[OJBrit]

An official announcement of the official announcement for the final race has been posted here:

"Race details for the previously unannounced Round 4 of the current 'World Series - Nations Cup - 2023/24 Exhibition Series Season 2' will be released on Thursday 25 January."

Love that they're giving us a whole two days to practice for it.

That means an update on Thursday then.

 

[GlockPants]

That means an update on Thursday then.

Hopeful for a new track, but my expectations are tempered.

But yes, strong indications point to an update for the 25th of January. Most are predicting we'll get the Kaz silhouette post this weekend.

While it would be somewhat unfortunate to have reduced practice time for the race on the 27th, at least everyone will be on the same playing field.

 

[Wilsonson]

Had time to do the first 2 races and completely forgot about drs. No idea how I got fastest lap in the second one.

I definitely have the pace for a win in my GT3 B lobbies. If I could just stop binning it.