Gran Turismo World Series (Nations Cup Exhibition Season: Jan 22 - Feb 1)

[watto79]

This is a few clips from my second race yesterday. I'm curious to see what other people think of the initial contact in the tunnel. When it happened I thought he had slid out then overcompensated and tried to cut me off as I went up the inside, but watching it back from the replay and from both our perspectives I got less sure each time.



The rest of the clip is just the general shambles that followed. If anyone has any suggestions for how to manage the pit lane exit when there are other cars I'd love to hear that too.

For the first contact I honestly don't think the Ford did anything wrong other than than take a bad line into the corner so I think the contact was just unfortunate.

The next corner does look like there was some revenge intent by the Ford (might be wrong but looks that way).

The sector 1 pile up is a glowing example of how bad the pit exit is. I'd guess the Ford felt like they'd cleared you and took their normal line but unfortunately you were still there. Who should yield in that scenario (if anyone) I really don't know. The yellow Porsche seemed completely clueless about was unfolding in front of them and did absolutely nothing to avoid it, which was kinda hilarious.

 

[newmedia_dev]

This is a few clips from my second race yesterday. I'm curious to see what other people think of the initial contact in the tunnel. When it happened I thought he had slid out then overcompensated and tried to cut me off as I went up the inside, but watching it back from the replay and from both our perspectives I got less sure each time.



The rest of the clip is just the general shambles that followed. If anyone has any suggestions for how to manage the pit lane exit when there are other cars I'd love to hear that too.

Incident 1

That's really not a good place to send it as you both lost so much momentum on the straight, you should have just followed especially where you are in the overall race distance.

Incident 2

Looked like he was repaying the favour, I don't think he meant to tap you but was definitely doing the same move you did previously

Incident 3

In my race I just slowed down knowing I was a stop ahead so was happy to settle in on fresh tires and build up pace again.

 

[Interemptor]

This is a few clips from my second race yesterday. I'm curious to see what other people think of the initial contact in the tunnel. When it happened I thought he had slid out then overcompensated and tried to cut me off as I went up the inside, but watching it back from the replay and from both our perspectives I got less sure each time.



The rest of the clip is just the general shambles that followed. If anyone has any suggestions for how to manage the pit lane exit when there are other cars I'd love to hear that too.

#1: That's on you. Not the best part for a move. The only way you pass the Ford here is when he understeers into the wall in every other scenario he comes back to the inside and you hit him.

#2: That looked very weird but that's on the Ford driver. Maybe misjudged his speed because of the slipstream!? The contact happens when he understeers and doesn't get the car to turn. You see him turning full to the left.

#3: Also on you. From the perspective of the Ford it looked like he passed you and stayed on his line when you emerge from the left. Had a similar incident in my race but I was a bit more to the right. That pit exit is just aweful imo.

And I have absolutly no clue what the yellow Porsche was thinking there. What a dumb move.

 

[newmedia_dev]

And I have absolutly no clue what the yellow Porsche was thinking there. What a dumb move.

In bumper cam it's unsighted and full throttle cresting the right had part @130mph +

He just got caught up in their carnage.

 

[Interemptor]

In bumper cam it's unsighted and full throttle cresting the right had part @130mph +

He just got caught up in their carnage.

Yeah, didn't think about different camera view here. Probably didn't see the Ford coming back from the left.
In chase cam it looks totally crazy 😅🙈

 

[stpatty]

Thanks gang. I think I don't understand that left hander before the tunnel. When I was running with other cars in both races I always lost time going into the tunnel, so this probably explains why. It still doesn't feel like a dive to me but if I'm on completely the wrong line it would explain things.

As for the pit exit, ouch. You really had a rough back and forth with that Ford. It's an absolutely awful pit exit, but I think you made it worse for yourself by staying left and approaching the apex for turn 1 at such a shallow angle. I managed to handle it by watching the track map during the pit stop and then monitoring the zoomed out radar like a hawk whilst hugging the pit exit line to move right. I figure if you're moving across towards the racing line and leave a car's width, you help take away the ambiguity on where the lines will converge if there is another car there approaching at speed.

I think my line there is in part paranoia about going over the pit lines. Maybe a bit more practice next time to realise how much you can cut across.

 

[newmedia_dev]

When I was running with other cars in both races I always lost time going into the tunnel, so this probably explains why. It still doesn't feel like a dive to me but if I'm on completely the wrong line it would explain things.

You aren't on the wrong line in QT or TT or free air.

The thing for me is that you were both slow and his wider line isn't "a gap" and then making contact before the long straight isn't ideal.

Edit:

This is a big issue with the racing online, the wider line isn't an invitation.

Too much senna don't for the gap crap exists.

Going in to that space is fine, but recognise they are lining up and on the throttle earlier, you will be on it later to avoid contact. If you even run a car wide with contact or just because you know you have is not cool.

Racing room is racing room and that's why on the good days we can race door to door. On the bad days it's being run wide or punted.

99% of people just race online like racing the AI.

Nobody cares about being a better racer anymore just "faster or A+" 😥

Soap box away now.

 

[Kermit_2142]

I nearly didn’t race because I was hearing bad things from people but I gave it a go anyway and I’m glad I did.
Qually p4 with a solid lap. P1 to P10 was covered by under a second so I was fully expecting to get mugged with the brz’s lack of power early on.
I got away poorly and I had to work hard to catch back up to the leaders. The race became a 3 way battle for the lead with myself mostly in second place. I was loosing 0.5s down the back straight and was really working hard to keep the pressure on p1 and I was having to defend from p3 who didn’t let up either. I’ve taken to defending clearly and early now and it seems to be working quite well.
I managed to take the lead after the final stop and then ran off at sector one (yes we have been here before, sadly). The 3 way battle then became a 4 way battle and then a 5 way battle and I managed to sneak back into p3 right at the end.
An absolutely fantastic race, everybody was really on the limit the whole time and battling hard but smart all the same.
Glad everyone else here generally seemed to have a good night too.

 

[MCL1974]

Did a small test at Road Atlanta with the Huracan and it doesn't fill me with optimism. Ran with the softs and got a 1:18.3xx after 8 laps. Optimals were a little below 1:18 but the car is, again, all over the place under braking.

The first round at Dragon Trail was totally fine but on TM and RA it's really unpleasent to drive. Nothing changed and I don't know what's going on here 🤔

Also tested, but with the M6. This is a really awesome track to drive around on, only thing is that my laptimes here suck big times.
Mind you, there are only 4 BMW's in the global top 10 so it might be the car that is the issue....

 

[Ashthebash]

Been a while since I've been on here...!

Did the first two slots yesterday in the Mazda and was on for quite a nice finish in the first slot, top half which would have netted me something in the high 200s (lobby was 338pts for the win), and then...



To throw a bit of context if it's at all possible, I've seen his name on TT leaderboards, don't think I've ever raced him, have definitely not got 'previous' with him, and there had been nothing going on between us in this race up to this point. So yeah, bit of a loss as to why he did this, let alone how he tried to justify himself afterwards saying he was showing me my behaviour "wouldn't be tolerated"!

So obviously that wrecked slot one, ran slot two but just started and finished 11th for 207, didn't have the pace in the Mazda to get up the field. The guy who wrecked me in slot one though managed to wreck himself (and someone else) again and parked in the pits

Did have a quick go in the BMW on my alt to see how the car was, that thing was massively OP!

 

[Moonpotter]

Been a while since I've been on here...!

Did the first two slots yesterday in the Mazda and was on for quite a nice finish in the first slot, top half which would have netted me something in the high 200s (lobby was 338pts for the win), and then...



To throw a bit of context if it's at all possible, I've seen his name on TT leaderboards, don't think I've ever raced him, have definitely not got 'previous' with him, and there had been nothing going on between us in this race up to this point. So yeah, bit of a loss as to why he did this, let alone how he tried to justify himself afterwards saying he was showing me my behaviour "wouldn't be tolerated"!

So obviously that wrecked slot one, ran slot two but just started and finished 11th for 207, didn't have the pace in the Mazda to get up the field. The guy who wrecked me in slot one though managed to wreck himself (and someone else) again and parked in the pits

Did have a quick go in the BMW on my alt to see how the car was, that thing was massively OP!

It is beyond me how two and a half years into the life cycle of the game PD has not implemented any protection against those players. Meanwhile I am getting banned for calling someone a clown or use the wrong livery that is available for download in the gallery. Shameful!

 

[Zorz]

Been a while since I've been on here...!

Did the first two slots yesterday in the Mazda and was on for quite a nice finish in the first slot, top half which would have netted me something in the high 200s (lobby was 338pts for the win), and then...



To throw a bit of context if it's at all possible, I've seen his name on TT leaderboards, don't think I've ever raced him, have definitely not got 'previous' with him, and there had been nothing going on between us in this race up to this point. So yeah, bit of a loss as to why he did this, let alone how he tried to justify himself afterwards saying he was showing me my behaviour "wouldn't be tolerated"!

That's just shameful behaviour on his part. It's a horrible part of the track to try go into 2-wide, but it looked like he squeezed you into the wall so hard he bounced off. That was completely on him!

 

[Fezzik]

I really wanted the F1 to be good. It was so nice to drive I was considering picking it until I saw the times. Same with the FT-1.

It's so disappointing for me that 2 years of "balance of performance" (ha!) updates have at no time made the F1 even mildly competitive.

 

[Ashthebash]

That's just shameful behaviour on his part. It's a horrible part of the track to try go into 2-wide, but it looked like he squeezed you into the wall so hard he bounced off. That was completely on him!

He's taken the corner as if I was going to stay glued to the wall on the right, and being ahead and on the inside in that scenario, technically, I'd be allowed to push him as wide left as I wanted providing I always left racing room, never even got to push him left because he turned in!

It was far from his only incident though.

 

[OJBrit]

This is a few clips from my second race yesterday. I'm curious to see what other people think of the initial contact in the tunnel. When it happened I thought he had slid out then overcompensated and tried to cut me off as I went up the inside, but watching it back from the replay and from both our perspectives I got less sure each time.



The rest of the clip is just the general shambles that followed. If anyone has any suggestions for how to manage the pit lane exit when there are other cars I'd love to hear that too.

On initial view it looks like they drift wide so I can see why you would take the inside line in a split second decision. So if they are consistently going deep as their line they should expect something like that rather than just sweeping back in so I'd call it a racing incident. It then looks like they try to punt you but do not put in a lot of effort. As for the yellow Porsche I can only assume Stevie Wonder was driving.

Been a while since I've been on here...!

Did the first two slots yesterday in the Mazda and was on for quite a nice finish in the first slot, top half which would have netted me something in the high 200s (lobby was 338pts for the win), and then...



To throw a bit of context if it's at all possible, I've seen his name on TT leaderboards, don't think I've ever raced him, have definitely not got 'previous' with him, and there had been nothing going on between us in this race up to this point. So yeah, bit of a loss as to why he did this, let alone how he tried to justify himself afterwards saying he was showing me my behaviour "wouldn't be tolerated"!

So obviously that wrecked slot one, ran slot two but just started and finished 11th for 207, didn't have the pace in the Mazda to get up the field. The guy who wrecked me in slot one though managed to wreck himself (and someone else) again and parked in the pits

Did have a quick go in the BMW on my alt to see how the car was, that thing was massively OP!

I'm not sure if he is part of TCR (@Tidgney will know and want to see if he is) but he seems to be well known on Tidge's videos.
He makes a mistake goes into the wall and then takes it out on you. Very childish of them.

 

[Tidgney]

On initial view it looks like they drift wide so I can see why you would take the inside line in a split second decision. So if they are consistently going deep as their line they should expect something like that rather than just sweeping back in so I'd call it a racing incident. It then looks like they try to punt you but do not put in a lot of effort. As for the yellow Porsche I can only assume Stevie Wonder was driving.

I'm not sure if Flash is part of TCR (@Tidgney will know and want to see if he is) but he seems to be well known on Tidge's videos.
He makes a mistake goes into the wall and then takes it out on you. Very childish of them.

He isn't but I'm surprised to see this from him 😭

 

[Ashthebash]

I'm not sure if he is part of TCR (@Tidgney will know and want to see if he is) but he seems to be well known on Tidge's videos.
He makes a mistake goes into the wall and then takes it out on you. Very childish of them.

Far from his only 'mistake' that wrecked someone's race on Saturday either

He isn't but I'm surprised to see this from him 😭

You'd be even more surprised to see his justifications for doing it and putting total blame on me! Will I see him again in lobbies? Probably, we have similar DR. Will I trust him if we're racing? Absolutely not. And that's always a shame when you can't trust someone in a race

Oh well!

 

[Talon16]

Been doing some practice laps - and a couple mock races - at RA as I like that track.

The Porsche is in its element here. My best lap thus far is a 17.0. More to be had.

GTR feels good as well. Not POrsche good, but it's very predictable. I don't think the gearing is great in the GTR for this track as both the right before the back straight and the right coming out of the last chicane are too slow for 3rd but too fast for 2nd.

Boy oh boy is the Ferrari bad. Mock race laps are like .800" behind the GTR (haven't done on in the Porsche yet)... PER LAP!

Still need to find the limits in the Genny but I might not even bother as I won't be available to play on Sat night.

 

[Moose78]

Being a holiday here in Canada, I had some time to run some tire wear tests. The data is still a bit noisy, but here's how things are shaping up for me in this miserable Suzuki.

For each tire compound, I ran 3 test races: 27 laps on RM, and 14 laps on RS. From those I constructed 'optimal' races, composed of the fastest lap across the tests.

Here are the numbers (from this spreadsheet):

Tire compound	Laps	Opt time	Best time	Avg time	Avg dev	Total time
RS	14	1:19.474	1:19.693	1:20.577	0:00.577	18:48.079
RM	27	1:19.901	1:19.992	1:21.018	0:00.379	36:27.487

Tread levels at finish:

Tire compound	Laps	Front left	Front right	Rear left	Rear right
RS	14	5%	45%	25%	50%
RM	27	15%	45%	30%	50%

Using these 'optimum' races, I've simulated all the strategies from 1RS-27RM to 14RS-14RM. As it currently stands, the fastest strategy is 11RS-17RM, with a total time, excluding pit time, of 37:39.438. 12RS-16RM is a very close second at 37:39.465.

Comments and observations:

• I'm way off anything resembling a competitive pace in this combo. That's probably helping the tires last longer for me. If you are faster -- and you probably are -- I'd recommend doing your own tests to see how the tires hold up for you.
• For me, there's not much difference between the two tire compounds. Maybe I'm not using them right, but I expected a bigger difference.
  
• Apparently, I'm still pretty inconsistent on the track. I might run a few more tests to see if that smooths out the data a little more, but for now it seems like 10-12 laps on the softs is where the sweet spot is for me.

 

[MCL1974]

a tip to anyone not familiar with Road Atlanta; practice your pitstop entry!!
It is very easy to get a penalty for crossing a line entering or exiting the pit or get damage while entering it...

 

[Zorz]

+1 on being careful with the pit lane entry. I am struggling hard with that and I'm expecting to see a lot of penalties for it on Saturday.

I've got very low expectations for this next round. This track just does not work for me at all. I'm really finding turn 3 difficult as it's effectively blind in VR and my overall consistency is poor. Just getting around with no track limit penalties will be a triumph.

The pit exit is nightmare fuel as well, which is kind of alarming considering this track is real! I honestly don't know how to handle that properly.

I need to keep my view locked forward whilst control is handed back to get the VR centred correctly, but I also need to look left immediately to look for incoming cars on the racing line. With how short the pit exit is, there's virtually no time to do it. Trying to take turn 3 is hard enough with a wide line too, never mind approaching it at a tight angle.

 

[MetalApe]

I need to keep my view locked forward whilst control is handed back to get the VR centred correctly, but I also need to look left immediately to look for incoming cars on the racing line. With how short the pit exit is, there's virtually no time to do it. Trying to take turn 3 is hard enough with a wide line too, never mind approaching it at a tight angle.

It's worst than that, at Atlanta you really need to hold the steering a little to the right to avoid crossing the exit line, all while keeping your head looking dead ahead and looking out for traffic. For the traffic I also make sure I've got the close range radar enabled before I pit.

One tip I picked up watching an A+ driver in an earlier replay, for the pit entry be prepared to instantly abort if you cross the pit entry line. Assuming you've got the flexibility to do an extra lap, It'll cost you a lot less time than serving the penalty.

 

[Talon16]

One thing I like to do on a track that has a particularly difficult pit entry/exit is do a custom race and just pit for 10 laps in a row. You could even cheat in this case and run RH tires to simulate worn RS or RMs.

You could do this in the TT as well, but I'd advise doing your practice on worn tires.

 

[stpatty]

You aren't on the wrong line in QT or TT or free air.

I'd just like to add that I absolutely am probably on the wrong line in all of those situations. I'm still relatively inexperienced on this version of Trial Mountain and a lot of the middle sector has a lot of wide corners that I just struggled with.

I have even less experience of Road Atlanta so I'm sure nothing bad will happen this Saturday!

 

[dazdilly75]

Been a while since I've been on here...!

Did the first two slots yesterday in the Mazda and was on for quite a nice finish in the first slot, top half which would have netted me something in the high 200s (lobby was 338pts for the win), and then...



To throw a bit of context if it's at all possible, I've seen his name on TT leaderboards, don't think I've ever raced him, have definitely not got 'previous' with him, and there had been nothing going on between us in this race up to this point. So yeah, bit of a loss as to why he did this, let alone how he tried to justify himself afterwards saying he was showing me my behaviour "wouldn't be tolerated"!

So obviously that wrecked slot one, ran slot two but just started and finished 11th for 207, didn't have the pace in the Mazda to get up the field. The guy who wrecked me in slot one though managed to wreck himself (and someone else) again and parked in the pits

Did have a quick go in the BMW on my alt to see how the car was, that thing was massively OP!

He is a well known low level streamer, who seems to have a decent reputation among the GT7 community and fellow streamers like Rory, Super GT and Kie25. What he did there was a reportable offence. Maybe he was having a bad day, but there's no excuse for that.

 

[Bobvita]

Road Atlanta is making me hate my choice this season even more. The Lamebo is like driving a bar of soap on an old fashioned washboard. It's bumpy and slippery. Almost think I'll need to do a 2 stopper to be safe. Can't make the full 28 laps on 1 set of RS + RM without killing myself.

 

[Ashthebash]

He is a well known low level streamer, who seems to have a decent reputation among the GT7 community and fellow streamers like Rory, Super GT and Kie25. What he did there was a reportable offence. Maybe he was having a bad day, but there's no excuse for that.

To be fair I'd totally forgotten about the report option! Probably because I tend not to have any issues with other racers but yeah this would definitely have been report worthy. What's really irked me though, even more than the incident itself was his refusal to own it when I messaged him on his channel. An apology and saying he was having a bad day or something and I'd have accepted it, but blaming me and saying his take out was justified to teach me a lesson?? Nah! As it is I'm a bit of a dog with a bone now and am coming up with part 2, because to say he had a bad day - on track certainly - is an understatement

 

[newmedia_dev]

To be fair I'd totally forgotten about the report option! Probably because I tend not to have any issues with other racers but yeah this would definitely have been report worthy. What's really irked me though, even more than the incident itself was his refusal to own it when I messaged him on his channel. An apology and saying he was having a bad day or something and I'd have accepted it, but blaming me and saying his take out was justified to teach me a lesson?? Nah! As it is I'm a bit of a dog with a bone now and am coming up with part 2, because to say he had a bad day - on track certainly - is an understatement

There is something in the clock changing or something but the whole of the world seems angry, not petulant but angry and unforgiving.

The amount of streamer punts, murders or just denial is huge this week.

Just a bit weird that it's happening en masse.

 

[dazdilly75]

There is something in the clock changing or something but the whole of the world seems angry, not petulant but angry and unforgiving.

The amount of streamer punts, murders or just denial is huge this week.

Just a bit weird that it's happening en masse.

I have to agree with you. There seems to be a sense of streamer 'royalty' creeping into the game, and it's being pushed by their subscribers, or pseudo fame by associates. I personally don't care who you are, or how many subs you have, I paid money for this game and I will not yield to someone because they have more subs than I do. I race fair and I despise entitlement. Some of these content creators need to remember that the silent majority are the ones with the power, not them. I won't start mentioning names, but if you know you know.

 

[Ashthebash]

a tip to anyone not familiar with Road Atlanta; practice your pitstop entry!!
It is very easy to get a penalty for crossing a line entering or exiting the pit or get damage while entering it...

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Yeah, that was me every pit stop on the weekly thing (except for the first one, I er, might have thought the pits were on the left and may have gone for an adventure...!)