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Gran Turismo World Series (Nations Cup Exhibition Season: Jan 22 - Feb 1)
- Thread starter stpatty
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- 4,879
- United Kingdom
- Fezzik-GT
- Fezzik1983
I am now the top ranked C driver in Euro GT3 for Ford.
Little victories - take em when you can
Unfortunately I am useless at DTS, especially in gr4, so will likely slip back.
Good to see Ford in general doing well this exhibition season - hopefully it carries over to the proper competition.
Little victories - take em when you can
Unfortunately I am useless at DTS, especially in gr4, so will likely slip back.
Good to see Ford in general doing well this exhibition season - hopefully it carries over to the proper competition.
- 155
- Melbourne Australia
Good downforce settings for the Mercedes-Benz for Nations:-
Front 580
Rear 710
Lowering the rear downforce to reduce drag doesn't really impact the cars stability, as its an understeery car to begin with.
Front 580
Rear 710
Lowering the rear downforce to reduce drag doesn't really impact the cars stability, as its an understeery car to begin with.
- 717
- NJ/FL
- SPL170db
Did a race simulation with the Merc @ Sardinia. Seems like the straightforward approach is RH for 11 laps then 9 on RM, fuel is not an issue. A better driver than me I'm sure will be able to get more laps out of the RM, but I didn't want to chance it. The pit lane time to swap tires is about 20 seconds. I'm guessing doing 2 stops and going through 2 sets of RM and 1 set of RH (for 1 lap) is probably not going to be worth it but it might depend on how different your RH and RM lap times are.
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- East Yorkshire
- Zorzil
I'm getting the impression picking something else is likely just handicapping yourself. Might end up skipping this one as a result.
I'm just not clicking with the CLK at all in free practice and I'm not keen on racing in a car I don't own since I can't try it in race conditions to see how it will play out before doing the real thing.
So far I'm best in free practice with the newer NSX, but I fear using that will just be a repeat of going with anything other than the Z '23 in the earlier round at Fuji. It feels good through the twisty bits but I reckon it's just going to get held up there, then get mugged over and over down the straights as it tops out around 274kph vs the CLKs 291kph.
Maybe the other Gr.2 cars will fare better, but the number of CLKs on the leaderboard doesn't give me much confidence of that either.
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- 638
- East Yorkshire
- Zorzil
I didn't want to say it but that is also a factor in my unwillingness to rent a CLK.
That and I've always had a habit of physically leaning to the side as I turn with my wheel on sharp bends. The CLKs VR cockpit area seems smaller than other cars because the way I lean right exiting the chicane at the end of sector 1 often makes the screen fade to the green wireframe for going too far.
On a more serious note, it's possible I'm just being overly pessimistic. The NSX (at least) seems to be able to brake pretty damn late so maybe it could fight with a CLK. I'm just not comfortable with the thought of having to race that aggressively for half an hour!
- 35
- United States
I LOVE the GR.2 cars, and I love out running the CLK when given the chance. But, I think its going to be a tall order for this race. My fastest lap so far is a 1:31.334 in the NISMO. But from what I've seen with the CLK's so far, is its just so much easier for them to rebound from a mistake given the straightaway speed they possess. I have been experimenting with the '08 cars and actually have gotten to the brutally fast left hander about 3 tenths faster then the NISMO in the '08 NSX, but I give it all back and then sum having to slow down so much more than the '16 cars for it. I tried the CLK myself, but could only manage a 131.5 in it.
So far I'm leaning towards either being behind the wheel of the '16 RCF or the '16 GTR currently.
Here's the onboard from my best lap so far:
So far I'm leaning towards either being behind the wheel of the '16 RCF or the '16 GTR currently.
Here's the onboard from my best lap so far:
- 1,322
- United Kingdom
- rodgers1
Ah I see the Mercedes CLK is the fastest car for Nations tomorrow. I’ll go buy it now from the legendary dealership………oh wait…it’s not available to buy… great!
Im mean seriously why do PD do this? Put races on where you can’t even buy the car. I know you can rent the car which is what I will do but I can’t perform any practice races.
Not really looking forward to this tomorrow. Ok track for me but think I’d prefer the GT500 Spec cars
Im mean seriously why do PD do this? Put races on where you can’t even buy the car. I know you can rent the car which is what I will do but I can’t perform any practice races.
Not really looking forward to this tomorrow. Ok track for me but think I’d prefer the GT500 Spec cars
- 4,879
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- Fezzik-GT
- Fezzik1983
Had a bit more test time and there really is
no choice but the CLK - over 1.5s faster for me than anything else, and that’s with some very scruffy laps.
Need to figure out the downforce now, and remember the settings as I’ll be driving a rental in the race.
no choice but the CLK - over 1.5s faster for me than anything else, and that’s with some very scruffy laps.
Need to figure out the downforce now, and remember the settings as I’ll be driving a rental in the race.
- 717
- NJ/FL
- SPL170db
I think I set the downforce to all the way up in front (500-something) and just kept lowering the rear (700-something) until PP reached its highest. I actually found the car to feel quite well planted like this. I'm not sure if this is "optimal", but it was the first thing I set it to and it seems to feel good to me.
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- Brazil
- Spider-PunkRacer
Back to Manu real quick. I'm so happy with my 300 score at Spa that I decided to record and edit the race. That way, when my great great great great grandchildren ask a future AI "What did my ancestors did of relevance?" The AI can send them to this post.
You hear that, future AI?
Anyway, for current time humans, here's my edited race
You hear that, future AI?
Anyway, for current time humans, here's my edited race
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- In the walls listen'...
- cross_dmd
Video:
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- United States
For Gr2 Sardegna tomorrow, I played with downforce on CLK and unfortunately my experiment was inconclusive. I tried the following:
1. Max rear and minimal front
2. Minimal rear and minimal front
3. Minimal rear and max front
4. Max rear and max front
And I clocked within 0.1 seconds of 1:33.2xx with all four settings. I am C/S rated and I might not be consistent enough.
Does anyone know which downforce setting results in maximum tire life on this track? I am thinking to simply go with the downforce setting that will give me maximum tire life. Thank you in advance.
1. Max rear and minimal front
2. Minimal rear and minimal front
3. Minimal rear and max front
4. Max rear and max front
And I clocked within 0.1 seconds of 1:33.2xx with all four settings. I am C/S rated and I might not be consistent enough.
Does anyone know which downforce setting results in maximum tire life on this track? I am thinking to simply go with the downforce setting that will give me maximum tire life. Thank you in advance.
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- Fezzik-GT
- Fezzik1983
What it says on the news page (https://www.gran-turismo.com/gb/gt7/news/00_4537804.html):
So you can use a car from your garage or rent one, as in the rally round 2. For round 1 at Fuji you could only rent the cars as they had specific tuning, so it said "event-specified car" only.
For the manufacturers cup races it says "garage car" as you use either one you've bought or the sponsor car you recieve when you sign a contract.
- 140
- Spain
- Globato44
- Globato44
Great race! I didn't even know the track before starting the warm up, so my intention was just to take part in the first slot and gain the position of the ragequiters. Picked the CLK just because, thanks to this thread, I had a clue about how many laps its tyres last.
Qualified 3rd in my last attempt (the only one I didn't encounter traffic: it was a chaotic qualification).
I decide to start on hards, since I don't want to waste mediums when I'm still learning the track. I drop to 7th due to having hards and always avoiding battles.
I pit for mediums for the last 9 laps and return to track 7th, with one GT-R and one CLK battling just in front of me. I join the battle for a while until the GT-R (also on mediums) managed to scape.
I switch positions with the CLK several times until he tries to pit me on the straight. Then we keep switching positions, but I only am brave enough to pass him at the exit of some turns when he makes mistakes. He makes a huge one on lap 18 and I think the battle is over... But I also fail in T14 and he passes me.
I pass him again on lap 19 exiting T5, but he divebombs me in T9 (and I'm too mild) and passes.
So I cross the line 7th and promote to 6th thanks to one Lexus not using both tyres. I think I've failed not beating the other CLK on hards, but I'm really happy with the overall performance, specially not knowing the track and with zero experience using Gr.2 cars.
And the best part: I didn't spin!!! For 20 laps with TCS off! I was sure I was going to spin trying to exit too fast from a slow turn.
Qualified 3rd in my last attempt (the only one I didn't encounter traffic: it was a chaotic qualification).
I decide to start on hards, since I don't want to waste mediums when I'm still learning the track. I drop to 7th due to having hards and always avoiding battles.
I pit for mediums for the last 9 laps and return to track 7th, with one GT-R and one CLK battling just in front of me. I join the battle for a while until the GT-R (also on mediums) managed to scape.
I switch positions with the CLK several times until he tries to pit me on the straight. Then we keep switching positions, but I only am brave enough to pass him at the exit of some turns when he makes mistakes. He makes a huge one on lap 18 and I think the battle is over... But I also fail in T14 and he passes me.
I pass him again on lap 19 exiting T5, but he divebombs me in T9 (and I'm too mild) and passes.
So I cross the line 7th and promote to 6th thanks to one Lexus not using both tyres. I think I've failed not beating the other CLK on hards, but I'm really happy with the overall performance, specially not knowing the track and with zero experience using Gr.2 cars.
And the best part: I didn't spin!!! For 20 laps with TCS off! I was sure I was going to spin trying to exit too fast from a slow turn.
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- NJ/FL
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For Gr2 Sardegna tomorrow, I played with downforce on CLK and unfortunately my experiment was inconclusive. I tried the following:
1. Max rear and minimal front
2. Minimal rear and minimal front
3. Minimal rear and max front
4. Max rear and max front
And I clocked within 0.1 seconds of 1:33.2xx with all four settings. I am C/S rated and I might not be consistent enough.
Does anyone know which downforce setting results in maximum tire life on this track? I am thinking to simply go with the downforce setting that will give me maximum tire life. Thank you in advance.
If it helps, I did some more experimenting and maanged to drop my previous best lap from a 1:31.6 to a 1:31.3 using max downforce in front (600 I think) and rear right in the middle at 775. With max rear I found the car understeering slightly and with it too low the back end would slide more on corner exit, so right in the middle seemed to work best for me.
In terms of 1 lap i have identic time to yours, stock downforce i can hit 1.31.7 and using VR...,if i have time to pratice i´ll give it a go with your recommendations to see if i can improve, if not i´ll just race with stock values, will be my first VR race in sport mode, only did some races/pratice in lobbys hope it goes well
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- 638
- East Yorkshire
- Zorzil
I ended up trying Nations, all I did was waste an hour. This combo is just not my thing. I couldn't find any pace here whatsoever regardless of car, so ended up going in the NSX '16 simply because I set my fastest lap in it. How people can make the CLK do that kind of lap time is beyond me, I just don't get the car.
After qualifying dead last in a much stronger lobby than I normally get matched with, I watched the swarm of CLKs disappear as the race started. A Belgian took several people out at turn 1 by braking ridiculously late, so I thought maybe I could briefly move up some positions but then made a big mistake of my own. The combination of cold Hards and taking a much tighter line than I normally would to avoid those recovering led me to accidentally putting down too much power and I spun it.
The Belgian wasn't done though. After getting off the gravel, apparently I'd also done something wrong and needed to be shoved off right after I had recovered. He then immediately quit. I can't think how to describe this other than a child throwing a tantrum in an A+/S lobby.
The rest of the race was then me just lapping at the back, gradually falling further and further behind with a couple extra mistakes in the mix to where I almost didn't finish the race within the countdown that starts after someone gets the chequered flag. I'm not going to bother linking the full race video, it really was that bad.
After qualifying dead last in a much stronger lobby than I normally get matched with, I watched the swarm of CLKs disappear as the race started. A Belgian took several people out at turn 1 by braking ridiculously late, so I thought maybe I could briefly move up some positions but then made a big mistake of my own. The combination of cold Hards and taking a much tighter line than I normally would to avoid those recovering led me to accidentally putting down too much power and I spun it.
The Belgian wasn't done though. After getting off the gravel, apparently I'd also done something wrong and needed to be shoved off right after I had recovered. He then immediately quit. I can't think how to describe this other than a child throwing a tantrum in an A+/S lobby.
The rest of the race was then me just lapping at the back, gradually falling further and further behind with a couple extra mistakes in the mix to where I almost didn't finish the race within the countdown that starts after someone gets the chequered flag. I'm not going to bother linking the full race video, it really was that bad.
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- 155
- Melbourne Australia
Here's my run of the Nations Cup race. Highest points haul collected for the night, plus fastest total race time from Oceania.
Used downforce settings of 596 700.
- 5,032
- Connecticut
- Ridley-X4
Did today's Nations Cup round - had insane results. Accidentally started on mediums instead of hards, but I think it was a blessing in disguise. I qualified for 14th, and drove until I was no longer comfortable driving on the mediums, at which point I pitted for hards. Didn't need to take on any fuel whatsoever. Ultimately, I got a clean P5! And although I got a three-star ticket out of it rather than a higher-tier one, the ticket did net me 100k credits, so that's splendid.
EDIT: Oh, and as for the settings, I just set both the front and rear downforce to minimum on the CLK-LM that I used. Seems to be best for such a course that's as high-speed as this one.
EDIT: Oh, and as for the settings, I just set both the front and rear downforce to minimum on the CLK-LM that I used. Seems to be best for such a course that's as high-speed as this one.
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- 4,879
- United Kingdom
- Fezzik-GT
- Fezzik1983
First attempt - start P4 in the CLK. Was on for a front row but spun through the evil left hander near the end of the lap. Very messy first couple of laps, contact everywhere, dropped to P6/7.
Back up to P4 by lap 4 and chasing down P3, think they were on hards to my mediums. Unfortunately I spun it again at the same fast left, ended up facing the wrong way. Took an age getting it turned, ended up DFL and quit out of frustration. Maybe one more attempt in the final slot.
Back up to P4 by lap 4 and chasing down P3, think they were on hards to my mediums. Unfortunately I spun it again at the same fast left, ended up facing the wrong way. Took an age getting it turned, ended up DFL and quit out of frustration. Maybe one more attempt in the final slot.
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