Grip Reduction settings

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I know I swear by it, and a lot of in my opinion decent drifters do as well. Problem is, quite a lot of public lobbies don't have it set to realism, and I really don't get why.

Besides that, I think P.D. should make it possible to select the possibility of choosing only public lobbies where these settings are turned to realism, in the Open Lobby screen. (Instead of something like skid recovery force, for example.)
 
GT5 is more a racing game than a drift game, and for racing, skid recovery is waaaaaaaaay more serious than grip low or real.

Edit: But, ok, i get your point, and yes, it should have better filters.
 
Despite the obvious placebo affect, I was under the impression that it only affected the track edge when it's raining?
 
Sleepa20v
Despite the obvious placebo affect, I was under the impression that it only affected the track edge when it's raining?
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My impression was that it changes how the car handles under traction loss. Which affects drifting as well.
 
You're right, this needs to be in the Driftin,g not the Teams and Meets forum, sorry ;s
 
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Yes, it only affects the off-track grip. Whether you lose traction on the track with it on or off does not change a thing, but, if one of your wheels goes off the track... Well, you get the point. Wet grass is like ice in real life.

I do wish they would remove the automatic traction control when you go off the track though.
 
MichoRexo
Yes, it only affects the off-track grip. Whether you lose traction on the track with it on or off does not change a thing, but, if one of your wheels goes off the track... Well, you get the point. Wet grass is like ice in real life.

I do wish they would remove the automatic traction control when you go off the track though.
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Having it on or off effects the physics for some reason. If it is off, my cars feel weird. 👍
 
Someone mentioned the placebo effect. Explain it "feels" weird. The differences between my lap times around say Deep Valley with it on or off do not vary more than a usual .5 seconds driving at 8/10 in a race. Im comparing this to racing in A-spec where the traction thing is off and racing with people online with it set to real.
 
As I stated before, I do not care about the racing part of things. I agree with Eric, the car feels different when on Real or Normal. I think it's easier to break traction and you have less grip on Real settings. And considering the fact that it seems you have no wheel drifting experience, please leave the discussion to those that have. ^^
 
I honestly cant say I have ever noticed the difference on the T500RS, but I have never tested it either. So I would rather not say it does or doesn't make a difference, mainly because I don't know :lol:

edit: I do agree that the setting should always be on realistic though. 👍
 
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There is a difference on the track as well... I've done a lot of open lobby racing and grip on low or real affects the lateral grip. There is not placebo effect because when I'm in a lobby and for some reason my car acts weird or unpredictable it's usually because of the grip settings. The front grip of the car while drifting is felt and a lot more when you're on a wheel. So I guess for DS3 users the grip settings don't make much of a difference because the information you get from a DS3 is limited whereas the wheel gets a lot more real time information for you to tell a difference.
 
Maybe I'm a victim of the placebo effect as well, but I swear I feel a difference between the two grip types. And I use a DS3
 
twitcher
Maybe I'm a victim of the placebo effect as well, but I swear I feel a difference between the two grip types. And I use a DS3
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I highly doubt it's placebo man... the guys who've been doing this for a really long time will tell the difference.
 
I could certainly be wrong, but I always thought the real setting meant that there's a difference between on- and off-line grip, just like on a real track, where laid-down rubber provides more grip on the racing line. I think the other grip type provides the same grip all over the track.

I could certainly be wrong, and I haven't ever tested this idea, but it could account for the different feel between the two.
 
DrKronin
I could certainly be wrong, but I always thought the real setting meant that there's a difference between on- and off-line grip, just like on a real track, where laid-down rubber provides more grip on the racing line. I think the other grip type provides the same grip all over the track.

I could certainly be wrong, and I haven't ever tested this idea, but it could account for the different feel between the two.
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this could be true... but drifting line vs driving line... not always the same. When racing you can't expect someone to have the same driving line every single time hence the noticeable difference.
 
Drift_Monkey
this could be true... but drifting line vs driving line... not always the same. When racing you can't expect someone to have the same driving line every single time hence the noticeable difference.
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That's kinda what I meant. The grip would vary as you cross the racing line. Just a theory though.
 
Drift_Monkey
I highly doubt it's placebo man... the guys who've been doing this for a really long time will tell the difference.
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Sorry to say but twitcher has been at it for awhile. 👍👍

I do clearly notice the differences it says it should make, if you read what it does you can clearly see it should only effect you in rain or in off track conditions meaning curbs, grass, and sand. That difference I can feel, but I am not saying that the setting does not change on track grip here don't get me wrong. I truly have no idea if it does effect it or not because I haven't tested it yet.

Tomorrow I will test it on my T500RS and let you guys know what I can tell through it, If there is a difference I will feel it very quickly. 👍👍
 
CJDA9
Sorry to say but twitcher has been at it for awhile. 👍👍

I do clearly notice the differences it says it should make, if you read what it does you can clearly see it should only effect you in rain or in off track conditions meaning curbs, grass, and sand. That difference I can feel, but I am not saying that the setting does not change on track grip here don't get me wrong. I truly have no idea if it does effect it or not because I haven't tested it yet.

Tomorrow I will test it on my T500RS and let you guys know what I can tell through it, If there is a difference I will feel it very quickly. 👍👍
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i was saying that twitch is one of the guys who can feel differences with ds3
 
I agree twitch I use different types of set ups and controllers from ds3 to hks drifting controller to even my g27 and I feel the difference when on real or not.
 
Gonales
And considering the fact that it seems you have no wheel drifting experience, please leave the discussion to those that have. ^^
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Wrong assumption... Either way I'll leave you guys to your toothpaste (google toothpaste rubbing if you really have to...NSFW). Again, I feel no difference on my DFGT in either my Supra 2.5GT or my S2000 R1.
 
i didnt really read any of this just kind of looked over the main point but i feel a huge difference when changing these setting i feel like its a NFS game when i try to drift with the settings not changed but when you change the settings to real if feels like you have less grip eveywere on the track not just on the edge, you have to have way more control and sense of what your car is going to do with these setting on real if there not changed i swear i can drift NUR just about full throttle the whole time cause my car grips that much
 
It DOES feel different. I've played on DS3 long enough to be able to "feel" the road(Basicly my mind guesses as best it can what the road feels like and puts that into my movements and causes me to do the things I do :P) I don't get as much info as the wheel-users(like if I run over a rock lol) but I can tell just about everything else, so I hope this qualifies me as being able to comment this without being overlooked :3 Cya'll on the track sometime!
 
A small thing to throw in here, while I'm thinking about it:

In Drag Racing rooms, patches of the ground where warm rubber has been laid down will provide more grip. But not always. I believe it has something to do with these grip reduction settings, and quite possibly the room's "quality" setting for the race. However, I have no confirmation or any reasoning behind this guess, but it would support the idea that grip reduction settings on the track edge also effect the changes in grip over the tarmac's varying surfaces.
 
GhostZ
A small thing to throw in here, while I'm thinking about it:

In Drag Racing rooms, patches of the ground where warm rubber has been laid down will provide more grip. But not always. I believe it has something to do with these grip reduction settings, and quite possibly the room's "quality" setting for the race. However, I have no confirmation or any reasoning behind this guess, but it would support the idea that grip reduction settings on the track edge also effect the changes in grip over the tarmac's varying surfaces.
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Reply: (Gotta love it when people say the same thing xD)

DrKronin
I could certainly be wrong, but I always thought the real setting meant that there's a difference between on- and off-line grip, just like on a real track, where laid-down rubber provides more grip on the racing line. I think the other grip type provides the same grip all over the track.

I could certainly be wrong, and I haven't ever tested this idea, but it could account for the different feel between the two.
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Man any one who is a legit GT5 amount of grip, r will tell you grip on real allows way less twitching motion in the car, on low a different tune can almost give the feeling But its still has this insane amount of grip, do laps on say deep forest on real grip say about 5 drifting, then immediately change grip to real, watch you never catch up to the fastest time you laid down but you drive so much smoother it will feel like your car was retuned.
 

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