gt4 nascar racing.

[GTR Racer]

after watching the talledega nascar race the other day i started messin around with a few old 60's/70's nascar type cars in gt4 and thought if anyone else has messed around tuning cars for motegi speedring and test oval etc if theres enough people might make up a nascar classic series on xlink

anyway im playing with a roadrunner and a gto right now post up times later

 

[AOS-]

You might be able to get a list of Nascar-like cars, but i doubt you will have a good variety of "nascars", But you can try. I've never went into the Austrailian section of dealerships, so i wouldn't bother with nascars. I also am very agaisnt nascar racing, i find it to be wasteful and pointless..

 

[peeweegary]

im with you trico. I find it pointless. Racing around an oval track for like 200 laps?

 

[HiQQory]

Do not start that, if you don´t like it, or dont have anything constructive to say don´t come into this thread.

I think it sounds like a good idea for those who like Nascar and have xlink. I´d join if i had Xlink but im too lazy to set it up

 

[Greycap]

The most potential old Nascar racers would be the Superbird and the Charger Super Bee, packing the immortal Hemi engine capable of over 700 bhp - like the real ones. Yes yes, I know that they didn't officially have that much grunt but the reality is just another story.

- R -

 

[daan]

I've never went into the Austrailian section of dealerships, so i wouldn't bother with nascars. I also am very agaisnt nascar racing, i find it to be wasteful and pointless..

You're against Nascar racing, but you seem to think its Australian? If you're unaware of where Nascar is from, how do you know you're against it? You might be thinking of the wrong series.

And your prejudice, and peewee's, against Nascar is for a thread debating the arguments for and against Nascar, not for here.

 

[Duke]

And your prejudice, and peewee's, against Nascar is for a thread debating the arguments for and against Nascar, not for here.

...and it's been debated ad nauseum already, so if you feel compelled to add your opinion, please find an existing thread.

As a point of clarification, it is actually NASCAR, not "Nascar", and the "car" part is not meant to be a literal car.

 

[Stevisiov]

I would like to see NASCAR's in GT5, despite the fact i think they are pig ugly and boring to watch, I would like to see how they stack up against other race cars, I mean they look fairly light and are very powerful although they don't appear to have much in terms of downforce, maybe an incorrect assumption

Also I would like to see how an Indy car compares to an F1 car, it would be interesting as I don't know much about Indy cars or NASCAR's for that matter.

 

[Tulok]

NASCAR is almost as scientifically advanced as F1
they have just enough downforce to get their fastest times, and have 2 separate metal bodies one with greater downforce for tighter tracks, and the other for them big ovals.
N/A engines only too.
I dont like watching NASCAR, but it sure is one heck of a sport...
The main reason i would do this is for the Motegi 1 hour enduro which is veeeerrry fun IMO. But i used a race car

 

[wfooshee]

I mean they look fairly light and are very powerful although they don't appear to have much in terms of downforce, maybe an incorrect assumption

The first part of three is VERY incorrect: 3400 pounds.

They're powerful enough that for Daytona and Talladega they have to be strangled with an inlet restrictor. Before the restrictor (mid 80's?) they were approaching 220mph average on the super speedways.

And they have a regulated downforce which is pretty much just barely enough to keep the rear wheels on the ground. They are very strict about the size and angle of the spoiler at the rear of the car.

 

[Michael88]

Even if they are ugly as sin, stupid and as racy and aerodynamical as a brick I would love to see them on a short oval with car damage just for watching crashes. 💡

 

[DAMMnit]

Even if they are ugly as sin, stupid and as racy and aerodynamical as a brick I would love to see them on a short oval with car damage just for watching crashes. 💡

Yeah your right its all about crashing

 

[Michael88]

Yeah your right its all about crashing

Thats the only thing nascars are good for.

 

[Stevisiov]

Thats the only thing nascars are good for.

I couldn't agree more

 

[Parnelli Bone]

The first part of three is VERY incorrect: 3400 pounds.

They're powerful enough that for Daytona and Talladega they have to be strangled with an inlet restrictor. Before the restrictor (mid 80's?) they were approaching 220mph average on the super speedways.

And they have a regulated downforce which is pretty much just barely enough to keep the rear wheels on the ground. They are very strict about the size and angle of the spoiler at the rear of the car.

NASCAR regulations are so strict and all the cars nowadays are so similar from a distance I have trouble distinguishing the new Toyotas from Fords, Chevys, and MOPARS. Even the engines are strictly regulated to a certain displacement size and power (not at all like the old days). Sometimes the ESPN Speed channel has older stock-car racing, which to me is much more interesting to watch even if they are traveling in an oval, because you can distinguish the various makes & models. With a lack of useful downforce, these cars were much closer to stock than they are nowadays and the entire experience was one of higher danger and (from a spectator's viewpoint) kept you on the edge of your seat.

All that being said, I think NASCAR-like vehicles have more of a place in GT than trucks. Also, I occasionally like watching a NASCAR event if it's being held on a circuit track and not an oval because the drivers have a tendency to push each other around and stuff. 👍 Say what you will but you can't as easily push an F1 or CART machine without potentially screwing up tires and wrecking entire suspension arms & links.

 

[Michael88]

Its just that, todays really tight regulations kills racing IMO, nascar is the same thing like F1, all cars look the same, all cars have 95% the same engine/chassis specifications, its hard to pic a favorite manufacturer or race car because they all are the same car.

Is it just me or was racing of the 70's and 80's better?

IMO the best regulation formula was from the beginning of group-C races, fuel consumption limit, passive safety requirements (rollcage), 2 seat-design. (There are some other limitations but I dont remember them all), that formula resulted in a race series with a wide spread of different looking and different performing cars, great head-to-head battles a lot of amateur teams.

Regulations did not say, put that wing on your car, no turbos are allowed, engines must be under XXXXccm and that kind of stuff. And than regulations said no straights over 1km are allowed resulting in the castrated Hunaudieres straight of LA Sarthe.

IMO loosen the regulations a bit would bring new life into racing, let the car manufacturers choose how they want their car, with only a few limitations like weight and fuel consumption, it could even bring back amateur racing.

Yes, now I am very off topic but I couldn't resist to moean about that.
Sorry.

 

[Duke]

Thats the only thing nascars are good for.

I couldn't agree more

What part of this did you NOT understand?

Your prejudice, and peewee's, against Nascar is for a thread debating the arguments for and against Nascar, not for here.

I'll refrain from commenting about what I think of people with attitudes like yours - and I'm not even a NASCAR fan.

 

[dking]

OVal racing at motegi on xlink is fun!

BUT not many people are interested....For a nascarish like race...I think any car as long as everyone has the same car....that would make a good race...Oh and 20 laps with pits will make it more interesting...

I personally Love F1 at motegi SS....keeps laps short too

 

[GTR Racer]

it would be cool to make "the big one" in gt5 or if they have more 8 cars we could do nascar type things online all cars are same specs so its about drafting etc. that would be fun as sh**

 

[DAMMnit]

What part of this did you NOT understand?

I'll refrain from commenting about what I think of people with attitudes like yours - and I'm not even a NASCAR fan.

I am not against NASCAR, I dont like oval racing. Only the crashesare cool

 

[Parnelli Bone]

Its just that, todays really tight regulations kills racing IMO, nascar is the same thing like F1, all cars look the same, all cars have 95% the same engine/chassis specifications, its hard to pic a favorite manufacturer or race car because they all are the same car.

Is it just me or was racing of the 70's and 80's better?

It's not just you. I remember back in the 80s when Ford re-entered NASCAR with their new Thunderbird. I was 14 and I was psyched and hoped Ford would win since my dad has always been a Ford man! Nowadays, if you removed all the decals & sponsorship I wouldn't know a Ford from a Pontiac from a Dodge from a new Toyota. And what sucks about NASCAR is it's anything but stock. Dodge re-entered the Winston Cup a few years back with the Intrepid, a front-drive sedan. Was the NASCAR Intrepid front-drive? NO!! It's just so retarded.

By the same token, Formula One is just as boring. Back in the 80s when I was a teen and actually watched Formula car-racing, F1 cars were vastly different from one another in an effort to catch small advantages. Alain Prost's Renault was visually different from a Williams, for instance. I think they should remove downforce altogether in F1...make the next Schumacher-clone work for a living...

That's why I just watch GT races when I'm able to catch them.

sorry for going off topic. I guess this is supposed to be a "who's interested in X-port/NASCAR-style" so I'll stop here.

 

[Stevisiov]

where would you suspect a modern NASCAR to place against other racing formula's on a technical track?

 

[-Cheezman-]

The way I see it, is, whether or not you like NASCAR is beside the point, it is still a MAJOR motor sport, and is in fact recognized around the world, even though it is not a world wide sport.

So should NASCAR race cars be in GT, sure, the game IS about Racing, and NASCAR is racing, so yes, why not have them in there?

I'm by no means a NASCAR fan, but, I do go to a race once a year with my father and uncle, usually in September.

 

[minichris502]

The first part of three is VERY incorrect: 3400 pounds.

They're powerful enough that for Daytona and Talladega they have to be strangled with an inlet restrictor. Before the restrictor (mid 80's?) they were approaching 220mph average on the super speedways.

and if they are on gt5 you mite take the inlet restrictor out

Yeah your right its all about crashing

+ you mite not be alowed damge