GT5 Sound Thread
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Really?
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- CoolColJ, GTP_CoolColJ
Some driveby sounds from the high quality 720p 60fps Nagoya vid - off screen, and off TV
It has been processed to make it more audible
The order on the video was - Corvette ZR1 (?), SLS, SLS, Gallardo, and then into GT-R for the driving 👍
Although I dont think the Gallardo is heard there
No buzzy, cheap, game sounding doppler here, and they sound like V8s
This leads me to believe all those IS-F and FT-86 trailers don't have over dubbed sounds.
It has been processed to make it more audible
The order on the video was - Corvette ZR1 (?), SLS, SLS, Gallardo, and then into GT-R for the driving 👍
Although I dont think the Gallardo is heard there
No buzzy, cheap, game sounding doppler here, and they sound like V8s
This leads me to believe all those IS-F and FT-86 trailers don't have over dubbed sounds.
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- CoolColJ, GTP_CoolColJ
Found some decent SLS sounds to compare
Both incar and outside from 3:35 onwards. Sounds pretty nasty from the outside
And the carbon weave version.... hope for GT5 to have that look
http://www.evo.co.uk/videos/planetevovideos/249436/mercedes_sls_amg_video.html
and GT5 SLS demo
edit - found this! LOL even the music towards the end of the video is very PD/GT like
And this one sounds beastly! Funny how it sounds so different to the "official" videos
Both incar and outside from 3:35 onwards. Sounds pretty nasty from the outside
And the carbon weave version.... hope for GT5 to have that look
http://www.evo.co.uk/videos/planetevovideos/249436/mercedes_sls_amg_video.html
and GT5 SLS demo
edit - found this! LOL even the music towards the end of the video is very PD/GT like
And this one sounds beastly! Funny how it sounds so different to the "official" videos
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- Bekimche
Hmm it might be cause its off screen but i highly doubt it, it still sounds like a vacuum cleaner in the higher revs. You can just tell even with the bad sound, you can tell it's GT from a mile away. If I was blind and only heard the audio I could still identify it's GT.
Not as enthused about the sound as much as I was after hearing the videos from last year, I just know I'll get my hopes up and it'll still sound like good old GT vacuum cleaner crap.
Not as enthused about the sound as much as I was after hearing the videos from last year, I just know I'll get my hopes up and it'll still sound like good old GT vacuum cleaner crap.
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- spagetti69
Nothing wrong with vacuum cleaners, you can mod em( different hoses ect ). Some even have turbo boost. Even the lights work ( when the bag is full ).
Vacuum cleaners FTW.
Vacuum cleaners FTW.
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Love the WWII fighter-plane sound of the real thing!
Although, the gear changes on these new transmissions sound "unrealistic"!
lol
As for the GT vid, you can't judge it properly(cam), but I would say that the character of the car is heard within a sound, even at higher rpms, which surprised me in a positive way, but I would still like to hear a direct feed to have any meaningful debate about it.
Although, the gear changes on these new transmissions sound "unrealistic"! lolAs for the GT vid, you can't judge it properly(cam), but I would say that the character of the car is heard within a sound, even at higher rpms, which surprised me in a positive way, but I would still like to hear a direct feed to have any meaningful debate about it.
TokyoDrift
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Well, I just invested in a decent Onkyo AMP and KEF 3005SE 5.1 system. The transformation of TV, movies and games is quite unbelievable compared to what I had before (all-in-one system). I fired up GTHD and was pleasantly surprised at how immersive the audio was, so I have high hopes for the audio in the final game.
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- jdmking13
- Lucid killer 58
I can feel you guys saying the sound is lacking the depth, but i remember playing GT5P with my normal tv speakers, then upgrading to my 5.1. Comparing the two different sounds is like day and night. IMO I feel the sub makes a huge difference. With the sub you get a deeper sound which the TV speaker cannot deliver. Still in GT5p the sounds could sound better but the sub helps. With GT5 the SLS AMG sounds pretty good but like you guys said it is lacking that deep beastly sound. Whats good is that the sound is recorded and the main sound source is the tv. Hopefully with a 5.1/7.1 it sounds better.
Nice system there. I think GT5Prologue had very high quality sound, but the car sounds themselves are terrible. Judging from the latest GT5 Lexus IS F videos, they seem they are going in the right direction. Regarding the Subaru Rally car, it sounds great, but where is that Transmission whine?
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- CoolColJ, GTP_CoolColJ
Maybe I should quote the guy again - who made the SLS demo video
You can't compare a sound recorded from digital camera, off a TV speaker with what the actual is like. The acoustics, the speaker and mic will change the sound drasticly. Even recordings with the same demo, from different TVs and cameras sound really different as we have heard with the GTR a few pages back
Anyway I just wanted to say the character from the SLS is all there in GT5
A lot better than Prologue
For example anyone who has played the Time Trail will know what it sounds like, and here is a video I made of the game with my Fuji F601z, but using decent studio grade monitors for sound (TV speakers are worse) and it still didn't sound that good vs the direct sound.
It sounds more nasally and muffled vs the real sound, like a telephone sound if you will. Basic acoustics 101
You can't compare a sound recorded from digital camera, off a TV speaker with what the actual is like. The acoustics, the speaker and mic will change the sound drasticly. Even recordings with the same demo, from different TVs and cameras sound really different as we have heard with the GTR a few pages back
Anyway I just wanted to say the character from the SLS is all there in GT5
A lot better than Prologue
For example anyone who has played the Time Trail will know what it sounds like, and here is a video I made of the game with my Fuji F601z, but using decent studio grade monitors for sound (TV speakers are worse) and it still didn't sound that good vs the direct sound.
It sounds more nasally and muffled vs the real sound, like a telephone sound if you will. Basic acoustics 101
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I used an audio editing software on my pc to morph? a High quality recording of a SLS on gt5 at the mercedes musuem (with no background noise), and after comparing it with direct feeds from gt5p and need for speed shift I tuned the SLS clip and it sounds menacing, with the sub on my pc but i wish i just had a way of uploading it
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rapidshare/filplanet...whatever...do it!
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- GTP_Owen
I just heard the sls in the f1 build up. It was a shot from a chopper and you couldn't see the car. But I could tell a mile away that they were driving the sls around. For those in the uk you can hear it here, skip to 45:20. Only 10 secs of talked over audio but instantly recognisable.
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- jdmking13
- Lucid killer 58
Hey i did this and it did sound ok for my nromal cam recorder
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I also think it depends on where your camera is relative to where your speakers are. I shoot from my chair which is in the middle of all my speakers. I have a 1000w Sony surround sound so even things off the camera sound pretty freakin good. here's what i made last night.
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- GTP_Nismo
^ +1
Some receivers can be set up to give each speaker a distance "reading" I guess relative to where you sit. So if your room isn't set up perfectly to where you actually sit, you can set each speaker to a distance away from your sitting position. That in turn will make it sound different depending where you st up the camera.
Some receivers can be set up to give each speaker a distance "reading" I guess relative to where you sit. So if your room isn't set up perfectly to where you actually sit, you can set each speaker to a distance away from your sitting position. That in turn will make it sound different depending where you st up the camera.
I really don't get why you continue posting sound recordings of the TT demo, and GT5p. We all know how it sounds, and it's still the same. No matter how many time we look at it, it's still ugly. Dissecting the sound is unfortunately not improving it.
Despite the huge sampling/mixing issue in the low revs here :
, to me that is far more appealing than the lifeless GT sound.
Despite the huge sampling/mixing issue in the low revs here :
, to me that is far more appealing than the lifeless GT sound.
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- Bekimche
Exactly what I was thinking.
Enthusia had pretty good sounds too, and this is going back. The corvette had a deep nice sounding v8, you could feel the bass in it, unfortunately I couldn't find a video of one on youtube. I would make one myself but I'm still in search of a PAL copy. I regret selling my ps2 with all my games couple years back, now I'm trying to get em all back lol. Anyways, what I absolutely adore on Enthusia is that they captured that beautiful quad-rotor sound of the 787b.
Oh and by the way this is recorded from a TV too with crap sound quality, but your ears still tell your brain that it sounds good, no need to "dissect" or analyze it etc, if it sounds good, it sounds good no matter what.
Check it out:
Yeah it's not perfect, but this is going back GT4 days, and it was Konami's first effort, and a damn good one too. ahh gives me goosebumps
TokyoDrift
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Yeah, I'm liking it - the sub is especially impressive, and unlike what I'm used to, didn't need any dialing in at all. Just ran the Audyssey calibration and the job's a good'un.
A mate of mine has my copy of Prologue so I've not fired that up yet with the new system, but to be fair, I'm not too fussy about how accurate or even how good a cars audio is in racing games. As long as it sounds roughly like the kind of car/engine it is, and the engine note relates to the revs, I'm fine with that.
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It does depend greatly on where the camera is, and also whether you have a "stereo microphone" on it, and how far apart the individual mics are... the sound is mixed to come out of stereo speakers set at a typical angle from the listener, so the relevant signals are phased accordingly - but this is not perfect, and is the main reason that off-screen recordings sound so echo-y. This is also why headphones can potentially provide a superior "experience".
That is just awful. Yes, there is a nice V12 rasp texture in there, but it really doesn't sound all that much like a real car does - even ignoring the terrible mixing. It sounds like it's driving away from you all the time, even when it's coming towards you, I mean.
Anyway, it's clear that you favour "appealing" sounds over real sounds. We've also discussed this "lifeless" thing before, GT5
has some good sounds, but the consistency is poor - there is hope for GT5.That's not bad, though the recording seems to have a built-in "warble", as though the car was going over bumps at the time of recording. Plus the doppler is all goofy-sounding, and there is no real ambiance to the sound (that car is so loud you can often hear the reflections of the exhaust louder than the exhaust itself, at certain angles.)
It's also funny how earlier in the thread people were voicing doubts about how hardware should affect sound, and there was the argument that if sound is done properly, you'd always get the best result using a decent system, though others disagree. And yet now we have some opinions of how an upgraded sound system has changed people's perspective (including my own, some time ago).
The reason we are dissecting is because this is a thread about sound in the game. If you can't keep up, ask for clarification; if you have no interest, then why read it?
Granted, the GT5
sounds are not all great, but as has been mentioned over and over in this thread, they have potential... much more than any other game before. The whole point of dissecting, then, is to gain a better understanding and to share that understanding - this is the very raison d'être of a forum, surely.For your delectation
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You don't mean one of those all-in-one SONY surround sound systems where the 1000w really only refers to the the total potential output of the individual speakers and sub added together, for marketing purposes?!
I had one of those - a decent one too that cost as much as a good stand-alone amp at the time. The sub was nothing more than a passive boom-box with no refinement at all, and the speaker cable supplied is a joke, but sure, it could go loud - very loud. Was it crystal clear with no distortion at higher volumes? No, not at all. I won't even go into how poor it was at handling stereo through multiple speakers.
See, while wattage has its place, it's not the be-all and end-all. I don't want lots of volume, nor do I want lots of bass. However, what I do want is clarity and balance where each speaker output compliments the other. Depending how you measure it, the total wattage of my system is less than the SONY I had, but the audio clarity and sound field is like the difference between night and day. TV, movies and game all feel like I have never experienced them before, and this is on a system that is, in the scheme of things, still quite cheap.
Don't get me wrong - these out-of-the-box systems have their place, but there really is no substitute for a decent stand alone amp, good matched 5.1 speakers/sub, and decent speaker cable.
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