I also think it depends on where your camera is relative to where your speakers are. I shoot from my chair which is in the middle of all my speakers. I have a 1000w Sony surround sound so even things off the camera sound pretty freakin good. here's what i made last night.
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It does depend greatly on where the camera is, and also whether you have a "stereo microphone" on it, and how far apart the individual mics are... the sound is mixed to come out of stereo speakers set at a typical angle from the listener, so the relevant signals are phased accordingly - but this is not perfect, and is the main reason that off-screen recordings sound so echo-y. This is also why headphones can potentially provide a superior "experience".
I really don't get why you continue posting sound recordings of the TT demo, and GT5p. We all know how it sounds, and it's still the same. No matter how many time we look at it, it's still ugly. Dissecting the sound is unfortunately not improving it.
Despite the huge sampling/mixing issue in the low revs here :
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, to me that is far more appealing than the lifeless GT sound.
That is just awful. Yes, there is a nice V12 rasp texture in there, but it really doesn't sound all that much like a real car does - even ignoring the terrible mixing. It sounds like it's driving away from you all the time, even when it's coming towards you, I mean.
Anyway, it's clear that you favour "appealing" sounds over real sounds. We've also discussed this "lifeless" thing before, GT5

has some good sounds, but the consistency is poor - there is hope for GT5.
Exactly what I was thinking.
Enthusia had pretty good sounds too, and this is going back. The corvette had a deep nice sounding v8, you could feel the bass in it, unfortunately I couldn't find a video of one on youtube. I would make one myself but I'm still in search of a PAL copy. I regret selling my ps2 with all my games couple years back, now I'm trying to get em all back lol. Anyways, what I absolutely adore on Enthusia is that they captured that beautiful quad-rotor sound of the 787b.
Oh and by the way this is recorded from a TV too with crap sound quality, but your ears still tell your brain that it sounds good, no need to "dissect" or analyze it etc, if it sounds good, it sounds good no matter what.
Check it out:
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Yeah it's not
perfect, but this is going back GT4 days, and it was Konami's first effort, and a damn good one too. ahh gives me goosebumps
That's not bad, though the recording seems to have a built-in "warble", as though the car was going over bumps at the time of recording. Plus the doppler is all goofy-sounding, and there is no real ambiance to the sound (that car is so loud you can often hear the reflections of the exhaust louder than the exhaust itself, at certain angles.)
It's also funny how earlier in the thread people were voicing doubts about how hardware should affect sound, and there was the argument that if sound is done properly, you'd always get the best result using a decent system, though others disagree. And yet now we have some opinions of how an upgraded sound system has changed people's perspective (including my own, some time ago).
The reason we are dissecting is because this is a thread about sound in the game. If you can't keep up, ask for clarification; if you have no interest, then why read it?
Granted, the GT5

sounds are not all great, but as has been mentioned over and over in this thread, they have
potential... much more than any other game before. The whole point of dissecting, then, is to gain a better understanding and to share that understanding - this is the very
raison d'être of a forum, surely.
For your delectation