GT5 Sound Thread

[Strittan]

I posted this before. FM3 has the ZR1 nearly perfectly.

It's beautiful.

The more I watch Forza 3 videos, the more I dislike it. I can't stand the lighting, it's just like Grid, NFS Pro Street and all those "let's make some money instead of giving the fans a realistic experience" games...

 

[No46_TheDoctor]

I am amazed at some of the comments in here about the sounds in GT5 and Prologue.

Do you guy's realise the difference a decent sound system can make to GT5 Prologue?

Seriously, it's like night and day, the difference between crappy TV speakers and a decent 5.1 system, bearing in mind all the videos we see are off screen footage how can you compare them with anything?

I see people saying the sounds seem more "bassy", WTF ! Did you consider the fact that maybe on the recordings with the bassy sounds someone turned up the bass on the TV?

Until you get GT5 in your PS3 you will not know what improvements have been made, even then, unless you have half decent sound sytem and spend some time setting it up correctly you aren't going to reap the benefits.

I just wish some of the people in here who complain about the sounds in Prologue could sit where I sit when i play, after one lap in an F40 you wouldn't be complaining.

 

[TokyoDrift]

I am amazed at some of the comments in here about the sounds in GT5 and Prologue.

Do you guy's realise the difference a decent sound system can make to GT5 Prologue?

Seriously, it's like night and day, the difference between crappy TV speakers and a decent 5.1 system, bearing in mind all the videos we see are off screen footage how can you compare them with anything?

I see people saying the sounds seem more "bassy", WTF ! Did you consider the fact that maybe on the recordings with the bassy sounds someone turned up the bass on the TV?

Until you get GT5 in your PS3 you will not know what improvements have been made, even then, unless you have half decent sound sytem and spend some time setting it up correctly you aren't going to reap the benefits.

I just wish some of the people in here who complain about the sounds in Prologue could sit where I sit when i play, after one lap in an F40 you wouldn't be complaining.

I can second that having just updated my 5.1 system to a decent dedicated amp and KEF speakers - Prologue sounds fantastic, and even if they are not 100% authentic to the real cars, they sound bloody good to me.

The only problem is, good speakers also mean a much more pronounced tyre screech too

The more I watch Forza 3 videos, the more I dislike it. I can't stand the lighting, it's just like Grid, NFS Pro Street and all those "let's make some money instead of giving the fans a realistic experience" games...

Oh come off it, it's not that bad and you know it. Nor is it just a cash-in like you implying, not in the same regard as the other games you mention. Still, at the end of the day, nobody makes games just for fun, and even Kaz would not be doing it if there was no profit involved.

 

[eSZee]

I see people saying the sounds seem more "bassy", WTF ! Did you consider the fact that maybe on the recordings with the bassy sounds someone turned up the bass on the TV?

Actually, the bass is due to the environment and the recording device.

 

[speedfreak69]

Do you guy's realise the difference a decent sound system can make to GT5 Prologue?

Seriously, this argument again?
I think we already covered it on page 1,4,16,23,31,39,46...



p.s. don't go looking at those pages, I'm just illustrating my point.

 

[TokyoDrift]

Seriously, this argument again?
I think we already covered it on page 1,4,16,23,31,39,46...

Not interested? Stay away and don't post. The thread is about sound in GT5, so what do you expect?

Seems you think it's OK for people to complain multiple times about the audio, but not for people to propose why the sound might be poor, and what might improve it?

 

[speedfreak69]

Ugh, that argument has been used countless times, and if you disregard its obvious and acknowledged merit, ie. better equipment=better sound(thx captain Obvious), it doesn't add anything new to the discussion and it's getting just annoying hearing it every five pages or so repeatedly, mkey?

 

[Jarmo]

Not interested? Stay away and don't post. The thread is about sound in GT5, so what do you expect?

Seems you think it's OK for people to complain multiple times about the audio, but not for people to propose why the sound might be poor, and what might improve it?

It was pretty clear from the TT demo that the sounds have indeed been improved. The TT demo is much bassier. Just crank up the volume and rev that engine and you'll notice. In Prologue the engine sounds have almost no bass at all. They sound way too clean.

Now if they just can get every car sound as good as they do in the TT demo I'll be very pleased.

 

[JAGUAR1977]

The more I watch Forza 3 videos, the more I dislike it. I can't stand the lighting, it's just like Grid, NFS Pro Street and all those "let's make some money instead of giving the fans a realistic experience" games...

So you prefare a more realistic lighting system than authentuic engine notes?

The engine is the heart and soul of a car, if that isn't authentic you may as well remove the car from the game, IMO.

 

[JAGUAR1977]

I am amazed at some of the comments in here about the sounds in GT5 and Prologue.

Do you guy's realise the difference a decent sound system can make to GT5 Prologue?

Seriously, it's like night and day, the difference between crappy TV speakers and a decent 5.1 system, bearing in mind all the videos we see are off screen footage how can you compare them with anything?

I see people saying the sounds seem more "bassy", WTF ! Did you consider the fact that maybe on the recordings with the bassy sounds someone turned up the bass on the TV?

Until you get GT5 in your PS3 you will not know what improvements have been made, even then, unless you have half decent sound sytem and spend some time setting it up correctly you aren't going to reap the benefits.

I just wish some of the people in here who complain about the sounds in Prologue could sit where I sit when i play, after one lap in an F40 you wouldn't be complaining.

I owned a state of the art 5.1 surround system, it isn't needed to discern which engine notes are accurate.

Nothing in GT5P or the GT5 demos comes remoetely close to the sound of this Mclaren F1 GTR in a Youtube video.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P1Km...F53276D39&playnext_from=PL&playnext=1&index=5

Forza 3 is far from perfect, but at least it has the raspy engine note and nice downchange sounds.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZJAZjT9Nmhc&feature=related

 

[GlobeKIDD]

It was pretty clear from the TT demo that the sounds have indeed been improved. The TT demo is much bassier. Just crank up the volume and rev that engine and you'll notice. In Prologue the engine sounds have almost no bass at all. They sound way too clean.

Now if they just can get every car sound as good as they do in the TT demo I'll be very pleased.

Thank you, that has been my standing from the beginning.

Why can't everyone just be like this guy?

We all heard the obvious improvement in the TT demo, so why all the fuss?

 

[Terronium-12]

So you prefer a more realistic lighting system than authentic engine notes?

The engine is the heart and soul of a car, if that isn't authentic you may as well remove the car from the game, IMO.

Thank you.

I owned a state of the art 5.1 surround system, it isn't needed to discern which engine notes are accurate.

Nothing in GT5P or the GT5 demos comes remotely close to the sound of this Mclaren F1 GTR in a Youtube video.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P1Km...F53276D39&playnext_from=PL&playnext=1&index=5

Forza 3 is far from perfect, but at least it has the raspy engine note and nice downchange sounds.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZJAZjT9Nmhc&feature=related

And thank you, again.

A 5.1, or 7.1 surround sound system is not going to change the way things sound, it's just as simple as that. For anyone to believe it does, well, they need to stop eating so much popcorn.

 

[speedfreak69]

Why can't everyone just be like this guy?

This guy approves your post.

Maybe because we're all different people with different opinions?💡

 

[Tenacious D]

good speakers also mean a much more pronounced tyre screech too

Yeah, but I need that pronounced screech to judge how well my car likes how I'm pushing it through turns.

It was pretty clear from the TT demo that the sounds have indeed been improved.

They won't listen. I don't think there's a a cure for chronic complainer syndrome.

I played a number of combat shooters. Unlike many of you, I served in the military, and I grew to enjoy the distinct bark of a 5.56mm assault rifle, in my case being the M-16. And guess what?

The sound is wrong on almost every single game I played.

Now, I could have spent my time complaining on message boards about it, or I could have spent my time enjoying the games. Guess what I did?

 

[Terronium-12]

How exactly does that compare?

You're comparing one weapon to a lot of vehicles that have audio inaccuracies.

Again, how exactly does that compare?

 

[GlobeKIDD]

Yeah, but I need that pronounced screech to judge how well my car likes how I'm pushing it through turns.


They won't listen. I don't think there's a a cure for chronic complainer syndrome.

I played a number of combat shooters. Unlike many of you, I served in the military, and I grew to enjoy the distinct bark of a 5.56mm assault rifle, in my case being the M-16. And guess what?

The sound is wrong on almost every single game I played.

Now, I could have spent my time complaining on message boards about it, or I could have spent my time enjoying the games. Guess what I did?

Too true. My uncle is in the military (calls in airstrikes and helps B2's and AC130's) and he has quite the collection of rifles at home. Guns in games just don't quite add up.

Same as cars in games, it's just life, and thats how it is and how its going to be. So (most of the time) i try not to complain.

 

[analog]

I played a number of combat shooters. Unlike many of you, I served in the military, and I grew to enjoy the distinct bark of a 5.56mm assault rifle, in my case being the M-16. And guess what?

The sound is wrong on almost every single game I played.

Thanks for ruining the pleasure of believing i was shooting an accurate replication of my beloved FPS firearms, i will return my copy of BFBC tomorrow and ask them why they even suggested it was anything approaching reality and use your post as prove to get my money back.

 

[GlobeKIDD]

This guy approves your post.

Maybe because we're all different people with different opinions?💡

Haha, i know i know.

I'm just soo tired of no matter what forum i'm at there's always some complaining going on. I know that's just how it is but. Ughhh.

 

[Terronium-12]

And one thing I'm always wondering is why is sound criticism always viewed as complaining?

 

[GlobeKIDD]

Well, before i make myself an outlaw before i even really get to know these forums, i just want to say that i'm not trying to argue whether its criticism or complaining. Maybe i just used a bad choice of vocabulary. I'm not trying to start thread wars here but i was simply trying to output my thoughts.

 

[Terronium-12]

Well, before i make myself an outlaw before i even really get to know these forums, i just want to say that i'm not trying to argue whether its criticism or complaining. Maybe i just used a bad choice of vocabulary. I'm not trying to start thread wars here but i was simply trying to output my thoughts.

No, I wasn't referring to you at all.

That's usually the general consensus around here, I don't usually hang around these parts (for a myriad of reasons) so maybe it is more complaining and not just criticism - I honestly don't know.

 

[speedfreak69]

No, I wasn't referring to you at all.

That's usually the general consensus around here, I don't usually hang around these parts (for a myriad of reasons) so maybe it is more complaining and not just criticism - I honestly don't know.

C'mon now, don't you start contradicting yourself, that's KY's job, and yes, you do have a point.👍
It isn't complaining, and frankly it's kinda PD's fault, they give us almost CG quality lighting and polycounts on cars, but as you get further from that(sort of GT core), things get...hm...less than perfect(physics, AI, skidmarks, trees, reverse lights and so on), and that includes the sound, only I would put sound way up there side by side with graphics(how important I think it should be) in contrast to say, reverse lights.
I can live with no reverse lights, but having the sound on par with the quality of graphics would increase the immersion much much more!
Not counting the graphics and the feeling on the steering wheel(FF), the sound is the only other thing creating illusion of driving a car!(and a big part of it!)
So, in conclusion, if the sound is not up to snuff, it's not the same as the lack of hazard lights for example. One is more or less irrelevant(although it would be realistic to have it) and the other is absolutely crucial to the whole driving experience!💡
I hope this kinda clear things up a bit, or at least my view on this issue.

 

[CoolColJ]

I am amazed at some of the comments in here about the sounds in GT5 and Prologue.

Do you guy's realise the difference a decent sound system can make to GT5 Prologue?

Seriously, it's like night and day, the difference between crappy TV speakers and a decent 5.1 system, bearing in mind all the videos we see are off screen footage how can you compare them with anything?

I see people saying the sounds seem more "bassy", WTF ! Did you consider the fact that maybe on the recordings with the bassy sounds someone turned up the bass on the TV?

Until you get GT5 in your PS3 you will not know what improvements have been made, even then, unless you have half decent sound sytem and spend some time setting it up correctly you aren't going to reap the benefits.

I just wish some of the people in here who complain about the sounds in Prologue could sit where I sit when i play, after one lap in an F40 you wouldn't be complaining.

I play all my games on studio monitors, KRK to be exact http://www.krksys.com/index.php, you know the kind of speakers you find in music studios and mastering rooms. They don't flatter the sound, infact they reveal any issues in the sound
From this perspective the sound in Prologue are really lacking. There are a lot of artifacts and the top end is really screechy on most sounds, so much so it hurts my ears.

However like I said before, some sounds are not bad, like the GT-R and a few others. The Viper kinda sounds good on the outside, but there are these pitch shifting artifacts in most of the sounds.
I actually found the F40 one of the worst

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Anyway sounds that like they're getting better 👍

GT-R replay sounds
Listen to the flyby at the start - all those exotic tones!

[YOUTUBEHD]EGr0nCPJd-s[/YOUTUBEHD]

Mclaren F1!
[YOUTUBEHD]L1aNhT6pIZY[/YOUTUBEHD]

 

[yanfloist]

Sound sucks, end of story.

 

[JDMKING13]

Thank you.



And thank you, again.

A 5.1, or 7.1 surround sound system is not going to change the way things sound, it's just as simple as that. For anyone to believe it does, well, they need to stop eating so much popcorn.

My 5.1 compared to my Samsung speakers are like day and night, but we have our opinions 👍. I was driving the Mines GT-R 20min ago and it sounded so beautiful! With the sub that deep sound will be gained, this some times helps some cars. Some cars like the M3 need major work the low revs are tasty, but high rev make me wanna cry. I have forza 3 also and the M3 sounds wonderful. Lets keep the debate going.

 

[Terronium-12]

My 5.1 compared to my Samsung speakers are like day and night, but we have our opinions 👍. I was driving the Mines GT-R 20min ago and it sounded so beautiful! With the sub that deep sound will be gained, this some times helps some cars. Some cars like the M3 need major work the low revs are tasty, but high rev make me wanna cry. I have forza 3 also and the M3 sounds wonderful. Lets keep the debate going.

I'm not debating whether or not they sound better, but people who keep using that argument are under the impression that when you switch from a basic 2-channel source to a 5, or 7.1-channel source it goes from "Eh" to "OMFG, that is just too good!" and that isn't the case. I own a 5.1 surround sound system and while some of the cars do sound damn good, it's not like 20 additional audio samples are unlocked upon switching to a home theater system.

The argument has it's merits, but to continually use it as a "be all, end all" statement is a bit heinous.

 

[JDMKING13]

I'm not debating whether or not they sound better, but people who keep using that argument are under the impression that when you switch from a basic 2-channel source to a 5, or 7.1-channel source it goes from "Eh" to "OMFG, that is just too good!" and that isn't the case. I own a 5.1 surround sound system and while some of the cars do sound damn good, it's not like 20 additional audio samples are unlocked upon switching to a home theater system.

The argument has it's merits, but to continually use it as a "be all, end all" statement is a bit heinous.

O yeah no doubt i feel you! The cars that sound bad still need work all im saying is the 5.1 brings out the full potential out of GT sounds, just as the True HD 120hz tv's bring out the best visuals of the game. I feel bad for people playing on Sdtv nobody deserve to play GT5P/GT5 on a sdtv if i had it my way this would never be the case 👍

 

[Moglet]

The more I watch Forza 3 videos, the more I dislike it. I can't stand the lighting, it's just like Grid, NFS Pro Street and all those "let's make some money instead of giving the fans a realistic experience" games...

Have you ever played it? It's nothing like any NFS or Grid game and comparing it to them is, quite frankly, ridiculous.

But let me guess, you love GT5 because it looks good and no matter what they do with the sound, content, gameplay or delays, it'll still be miles better, right? Give me a break.

 

[No46_TheDoctor]

Thank you.



And thank you, again.

A 5.1, or 7.1 surround sound system is not going to change the way things sound, it's just as simple as that. For anyone to believe it does, well, they need to stop eating so much popcorn.

LOL, did you read that before you hit the submit button? Seriously !!!!

If thats what you think then there is literally no hope for you my friend.

Maybe some people just haven't got the "right" sound system with decent speakers?

For someone to say that there is no difference between Prologue being played through TV speakers and a "good" surround sound system, is quite frankly laughable, it makes such a major difference that it's impossible to disregard.

It's like someone who needs to wear glasses, taking them off to play GT5P and complaining about blurry graphics, seriously guy's, wise up.

 

[Terronium-12]

LOL, did you read that before you hit the submit button? Seriously !!!!

If thats what you think then there is literally no hope for you my friend.

Maybe some people just haven't got the "right" sound system with decent speakers?

For someone to say that there is no difference between Prologue being played through TV speakers and a "good" surround sound system, is quite frankly laughable, it makes such a major difference that it's impossible to disregard.

It's like someone who needs to wear glasses, taking them off to play GT5P and complaining about blurry graphics, seriously guy's, wise up.

Well, I guess there's no hope for me then.

You have spoken, and clearly anyone else who says otherwise is just flat out wrong.