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GT5's reaction to EA's lock down on Porsche, Pagani Huayra, etc.
- Thread starter pasigiri
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Call me when the German government pays for the development of and starts using the Porsche 911 as a military transport vehicle.
I'd have to prod you a bit here, you could have said it in the first place instead being all secretive in your post
No offence.
My apologies. It seemed obvious enough to me, so I didn't bother. Will keep in mind in the future.
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- BasedAckbar
What scaffold said makes sense, but it's odd how Porsche keeps tight lip about the partnership with EA. As of late the NFS brand is in the gutter, and the Porsche name hasn't been well implemented in the last few games. Either kaz really needs a great negotiator, EA gets destroyed by the Canadian military, or Porsche gets the nads to tell EA hey I want to make more money, so that contract needs some changing (if it is still exclusive).
I mean EA is huge, but it's still a possum to the honey badger that is the VW group.
I mean EA is huge, but it's still a possum to the honey badger that is the VW group.
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As far as I know the manufacturer still holds the rights to military hardware, not the government which paid for it...
And as far as Porsche goes, I honestly don't know what Porsche is thinking by continuously renewing their license with EA...
And as far as Porsche goes, I honestly don't know what Porsche is thinking by continuously renewing their license with EA...
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- Sele1981
Did I missed something? Did Porsche really renewed their license with EA?
About Porsche an PD, well, I think Porsche is not important for GT5 because PD would implement only a few Porsches after a long time. Just look at Ferrari and Lambo. PD has the rights and what are they doing? They should implement at least 20 Ferraris and 10 Lambos.
But T10 did a great job in FM3 and I really miss all those (if I remember correctly) 27 Porsches!
About Porsche an PD, well, I think Porsche is not important for GT5 because PD would implement only a few Porsches after a long time. Just look at Ferrari and Lambo. PD has the rights and what are they doing? They should implement at least 20 Ferraris and 10 Lambos.
But T10 did a great job in FM3 and I really miss all those (if I remember correctly) 27 Porsches!
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And unless something has changed regarding rights of military equipment, you don't need to individually licence out from each military contractor to be able to use it unless it is referred to by name because designs of military equipment cannot be (as far as I'm aware, in the U.S.) trademarked. This is why you can have obvious replications of real life guns that have weird, sorta-close-to-real-name names.
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- cuco33
I'm sure with you on this. Gran Turismo is all about driving cars you never thought you'd see in a racing game, like Model T's and the very first steam (?) powered Mercedes.
I never understood why someone would want to RACE a Ford Model T, a steem powered Merc, or any similar vehicle in a racing game. I can understand, to a degree, econoboxes because many folks do modify and upgrade them and not all small cars are void of racing pedigree but a Model T? Steamy Merc? Why??
Just me though
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Not much as to race them but as a game for car enthusiasts they deserve their place in digital car heaven..
Yeah that's great...... give me cars that I'll actually use.
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- BasedAckbar
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- BasedAckbar
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Uh oh... The answer you will get how 800 of those are standards, and 200 premiums is not enough hahaha
Just teasing you Short Bus.
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That would be the day GTP would implode from complaints hahaha
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- Tetsumura
- Nigel Fox
Well, EA is wrong. It doesn't matter if the U.S. taxpayers fund anything in an industry. If a company wants to build their own Cobra or Apache helicopters, F-16 jets or whatever, they have to apply not just to the government, but to the corporation which created the hardware to start with for a manufacturing license.
Following the "public domain" train of thought, considering that we taxpayers basically bought "Government Motors," now any game could include any GM vehicle license free.
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Well, EA is wrong. It doesn't matter if the U.S. taxpayers fund anything in an industry. If a company wants to build their own Cobra or Apache helicopters, F-16 jets or whatever, they have to apply not just to the government, but to the corporation which created the hardware to start with for a manufacturing license.
Following the "public domain" train of thought, considering that we taxpayers basically bought "Government Motors," now any game could include any GM vehicle license free.
I chuckled there a bit
It does seem logical EA followed this path though as you don't really operate a helicopter in the game, it is just a prop in the environment. Whether they'll succeed is entire matter entirely. I hope they don't.
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Last I checked, a manufacturing licence to actually build something was different from utilizing the appearance of something.
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- honeydear
I think that if the license for these cars is up for grabs PD should jump on them. Model them and send them via DLC before EA or anyone else re-license them.
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- ghostrider135
Glad this thread got a bump because I have been giving some thought to this since the latest DLC offering, Doesn't VW own Porsche these days ?, Maybe I got it the wrong way around but eitherway if VW does infact own Porsche then with that awesome beetle being in the DLC we may not be far away from Porsche in GT5, Just putting that out there .
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- GeneralJembalang
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EA can hog the Porsche for all I care, I'd buy if PD sells premium Rufs.
I'm starting to hate EA more an more, all they care about is money, I mean, the assortments of games that EA produces is one thing, buying over playfish is another thing, then having exclusive rights on Porche and the Pagani pisses me off even more, and finally, this one takes the cake, the support for SOPA. Unbelievable.
Edit : By Pagani I meant the Hyuara.
Edit : By Pagani I meant the Hyuara.
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That s one thing i hate with DLCs or immaterial games, the day the licensing is lost because someone else bought exclusivity, the DLCs/games will be lost.
That s why i ll never get a rerelease of Alien Vs Predator by Capcom and why i think we ll see in the future cars DLCs from forza or even GT disapear (and the reason why i never buy any).
I don t want material releases without DRM to disapear T-T
That s why i ll never get a rerelease of Alien Vs Predator by Capcom and why i think we ll see in the future cars DLCs from forza or even GT disapear (and the reason why i never buy any).
I don t want material releases without DRM to disapear T-T
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Well Posche did sign that exclusivity deal so whos the monster whos the fool. it comes down to the mighty greenback and EA must have some cash that PD just cant front to make a descent bid when they lobby the manufacturers for the right to add a certain car(s) to a game title. i dont think Porsche and Ferrari want there cars in the same games together so they prob look for a way to make their cars standout in the face of the other manufacturers best additions. they push for these deals as much as developers and publish companies want to give it to them. they know someone will buy the game and even more so if u say: awww man the Porsche carrera turbo is in this game, so is the GT2 and GT3. It really hurts when u been playin this game since GT1 and every time a new GT comes out u hope to see both of those manufacturers in the game together. think of the online competitions and teams we could be makin just bcuz of those 2 cars.
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My Reaction to the kubbelwagon: what the Heck is a nazi vehicle doin in this game, but i cant get a descent (and unoffensive) Olsmobile 442 or BMW M3 CSL (euro spec)
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I don't support exclusive content in racing games. I think it hurts the consumer and the automaker more than it can do any good. A short term deal for one model to promote a game is fine but buying up a whole automaker is just wrong to me. I wouldn't want to see Gran Turismo hoarding a brand or losing one it has.
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- Puppy71
I don't think this hurts PD that much, they will always be the developer that created the GT series and for that matter, the only ones to create a game toughing on a real simulator. They will sell regardless of the brands and makes of cars in their games. EA on the other hand, is just a money machine reshaping/renewing their games every year with the sole purpose off making money instead off creating quality games, they will never appeal to the true motoring fans/petrol heads/racing enthusiasts simply because they are not able to create a descent racing game. I've played the NFS series until the moment I bought my first playstation and experienced the magic of Gran Turismo. From that moment on I measured every race game to GT and never ever even thought of toughing a NFS game ever. I got one for my birthday a few years ago, played it ten or eleven times, because I wanted some quick and easy trophies but after getting them the value of NFS dropped to 0.
So my thought: Don't enter a licensing war, let EA be what they are and don't bother, just keep on racing and don't ever think of EA again!
So my thought: Don't enter a licensing war, let EA be what they are and don't bother, just keep on racing and don't ever think of EA again!
