Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't GT5 launch with well over 1000 cars in it, compared to the afore-mentioned 500 or so in FM4?
But as above when you really look at it the choice isn't that great if you don't want an 90s or 00s Japanese car. I mean really look at it like this, of all 1000+ cars in GT5 502 of them are Japanese cars built after 1990. That's just about half.
Have you actually ready any posts I or others have made?
To be honest, I was trying to single out their obsession with car detail, which can be both good and bad.
When we look at how many cars they produced for GT5 (pre-DLC), and we compare it other franchises like Forza, we see FAR fewer cars. Since GT4, there have been 3 Forza titles (technically they all came out after but let's not aruge that too much). Now, this is not about ratings or gameplay, simply the sheer numbers of cars. I believe Forza 4 had about 500 at launch. With their DLC packs, I think it's upwards to 550. GT5 is struggling to reach 300.
At any rate, it's about the sheer number of cars being produced. While GT5 DLC offers a random number (15 touring cars in the 1st batch and 4 cars in the 2nd batch), Forza pumps out about 10 on average/pack. And PD is behind. For some reason. There has to be a reason. That's the main idea we want to explore. Staff? Super detail? Who knows?
Another thing is, quit being so selfish. The game was CREATED in JAPAN, and it is sold in japan as well as world wide. Japanese players will be plenty happy, and everywhere else will be less happy. The world doesnt revolve around the west you know.
Another thing is, quit being so selfish. The game was CREATED in JAPAN, and it is sold in japan as well as world wide. Japanese players will be plenty happy, and everywhere else will be less happy. The world doesnt revolve around the west you know..
Yes, and I was responding specifically to this one:
Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't GT5 launch with well over 1000 cars in it, compared to the afore-mentioned 500 or so in FM4?
It revolves far more around the locations where it sells in dramatically higher numbers than it does the home market just because it is the home market.
Well he was talking about NEW models. 800 odd cars in GT5 are not new models, they're from GT4 and beyond.
This is correct. But this is not the best argument out there. About 830 of them were created when the "premium" notion didn't exist. It took little/much less work to make those GT4 cars. Standard cars are on the way out.
Forza has many cars that have had a lot of work done to them and they were produced in far less time.
Premium cars are the future. Standards are on their way out. PD's begun, but looking at the DLC's pace and quantity, it seems they'll still be far behind with their current staff or their current priorities for GT's future.
The next DLC should be very indicative of PD's intent. While Turn10 immediately grabbed the Huayra (which EA controlled for some time), let's see if PD has a rabbit to pull out of their hat. Or let's see if they have another R35, Super Pink edition.![]()
If getting Porsches means more whining on here, then EA can keep 'em.
Good points, and thanks for clarifying. You're right, of course - premiums are the future. Premium is the new normal for Gran Turismo, or damned well should be.
I definitely don't want another "GT v. Forza" thread, and I'd love to see PD get their hands on the Porsche marque, the Huaraya, the Aventador, and whatever else they can!
Forza is great for GT, and vice versa. Competition will keep both games fresh. And if you own both consoles, there's no excuse to not own both. 👍 I know I would if I did.
GT55YWAt least with Forza 1-3, one cannot change anything on the controller. So if you have Forza, you should get GT5. But if you have GT5 and you get Forza, you will also have an eruption of blood from your nose while trying to work the controls.
*They may have added into 4, the ability to change controller setting, and I say this from my own experience trying to play it.
Or if you have GT5 and you get Forza your PS3 will get extremely dusty....
And, yes there are default controller configuration options.
GT55YWSorry, not trying to cause a flame war, I just didn't know if you could customize the 4 controller or not. My buddy just got 3 and I was rubbish trying to drive with that control setting, which could not be adjusted.
I am not saying one is better than the other, just that from Forza 3 to GT5, one can adjust button layout however they like. Is Forza 4 completely customizable or is it just an option of different layouts? I am not asking because it makes a difference, I am more curious if I should think about getting it for my wife's 360.
Now that the vacation is over the forza bots are back I guess.
GT has been in worse situations with car lists before. [Lamborghini and Ferrari are in GT5].
Quite frankly, PD are taking advantage of the fact they've no competition on the PS3. Should FM4 be available on all platforms, I'd certainly give it a try but as I'm not going to buy an Xbox for just one game, I'll have to stick to GT5. I trust many of us are also in my case.
On topic now, I'd like some transparency from Kaz and PD about why no efforts seem to be made to include recent supercars and premium RUFs. They're so secretive it's irritating.
Don't confuse pure numbers with diversity. The GT5 car selection is not diverse, not greatly anyway. It has 1000 cars but 600 of those are from one country. That is already not very diverse. Imagine I had 1000 bottles of beer but 600 were from Belgium, that doesn't make the selection diverse, not worldwide anyway which the car market is.
I'm not quite sure what this is supposed to be implying.
That picture really doesn't make any sense.
drivingmeinsaneFor those of you who worry about poor Porshe keep this in mind about Porshe mindset...
I remember a few years ago watching a program about super car manufacturers. when it came time for Porshe and it's execs to be interviewed they were asked -i can't remember this verbatim, so it's along the lines of-"why do you not produce more cars per month even though you have the capacity to do so and there is quite a long wating list for new Porshe cars? how many cars do you make a month?" the exec replied "we make 14 cars a month and can comfortably produce 18 if needs be...maybe we will produce 18 this month, who knows!?!" and chuckled.
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Why? EA are willing to pay the money for exclusive licences because they want their games to have something other driving games don't, good on them, they're spending big money to keep their customers happy. Maybe Sony should do the same and stop being so tight fisted and also, it's not as if Sony can't buy the rights to use these cars from EA, they can but they're just not willing to part with the cash to do so.
Hating on a company because they spend money to give something exclusive to their loyal customers is just plain stupid and whether the NFS games are arcade or not is just plain irrelevant.
By the way, there's a ton of supercar manufacturers out there who don't have an exclusive licence with EA or any other games company and don't have their cars in GT5 like Koenigsegg, Ariel, Gumpert, Noble, Ascari, Keating, Caparo, Spyker, SSC, Rolls-Royce (technically not a supercar manufacturer but prestigious nonetheless), etc etc etc.....
and lets not forget how the licences Sony and PD do have are underutilized in GT5, Ferrari, Lamborghini, Aston Martin, Bugatti, TVR, Bentley all have cars that are ignored in GT5, so what's the point of them getting Porsche and throwing in a token 5 cars and missing the rest?