GT7 Daily Race Discussion

[TheNormsk]

I did 2 Race Cs today. I’m driving the Audi and like it but woah, it looks like someone said the NSX is meta…

Came in 7th on both races, and in race 2 I was 5th for quit some time until I fluffed a corner or two….

So if mediocre me can do okay I think the R5 deserves a chance as an alternate to the NSX.

Oh and before that I did the esports race. I think this is the only time I’ve beaten faster guys than me 😁.

Ok I know it’s a one and done kind of affair but I’m happy.

 

[GrumpyOldMan]

Last week my DR took a huge setback

So did mine - I think that last 3 weeks have been tough. This week's Catalunya should be much better, even if it's too short...

Race B is seriously 7 minutes long?

I know, right?!! WTH?

You'll be waiting more than doing actual racing lol.

Just gives me time to post more stuff here, between races.

Its a shame because it was a good combo and that fact makes it a no-go for me.

No reason for it not to be a no-go... just find something to do while waiting. Qualifying, read a book, listen to an audiobook, post crap here, play Zelda for a few minutes, whatever...

Speaking of Zelda, while the wait between races seems excruciating long, it's not nearly long enough to really do hardly anything in Zelda. It's funny how long that time can feel, then how short it can feel. Time is relative, for sure!

Here's my fastest lap but again, 2 seconds behind is way off,

Let me say that I totally understand the point of your post, and I get what you're saying, for sure. With that said, boo hoo for being "way off" at 2 seconds behind. My heart bleeds for you.

(You had to know someone was going to go there...)

 

[TheNormsk]

My first race B was kind to me. I QT in six and came in second. Woo hoo! CRB to boot!

 

[benjoi84]

Having finished the previous weeks' races (exclusively Race A this time around) just outside of the global Top 100 qualifying times, I took an unexpectedly-valid couple of lessons from the classic Ferrari event with me to Suzuka and my favourite Gr.2 NSX.

The Comfort Soft/MR monster combo taught me a helluva lot about precise throttle control, which I've brought with me to Japan and a decent 1.49.7xx quali after 3 in-between race sessions. I was worried about the Racing Softs and their degradation potential, but the other lesson I learned (even though I didn't actually apply to the Ferrari race) was careful brake application, and there turned out to be no better place to practice than Suzuka. No real problems with tyre management, just easy on the braking and don't overdrive the car!

Strange Monday it certainly was though. My first race (Q11) alongside A+ aplenty, including world No.1 Aphelion, world No.7 Hungarian and several other Top-50 qualifiers. Then bam! second race, Q4 and half of the field full of B/S. I can only think I got bumped down a couple of SR points and it landed me in a slower lobby.

I think it'll be a "One Race Week" again for me, as I'll have to keep my practice up throughout the week to keep up with the very fast competitors.

Oh, that and dipping in and out of the ample time trial opportunities we currently have available.

 

[Timm Sheehan]

I will try Race B tomorrow in the meantime I tried and got a victory in Race A; the Z8 is really prone to understeering

Because this victory was not one of my most exciting, I added a bonus clip at end, finally having a proof of how really dirty a certain GT7 driver/streamer really is 👿

Spoiler

jkofcourse

At least the driver stopped and waited instead of blowing right by after contact.

 

[Nebuc72]

At least the driver stopped and waited instead of blowing right by after contact.

A surprise to us all that was.

 

[TheNormsk]

Race B is good. Did 3 more and got two 3rds and then a 7th after miss-shifting last corner and losing 6th by a hundredth of a second.

Along with the two 7ths in race C earlier my DR got a much needed boost today.

Now the competition is getting better as I move up the ranks and everyone else will improve so this won’t last..

 

[Dep Fishtail]

Two B races for me so far tonight. P9 in the first one and p5 in my second.
Plenty of spins and peeps taking themselves out.
The second race I did took a very long time to load and it had a lot of micro lags to the point where in tight groups it was very difficult to deal with. Maybe I’ll try C tomorrow after some qualifying.

Will go back to practicing for Manu now. Lots of variety in the game right now.

 

[Carlos Fandango]

I had a couple of goes at Race C this morning and had high hopes, but both races became quite dull after the first lap chaos as the bumping and shuffling spreads the field out quickly and it’s difficult to follow.

Swapped over to Race B this evening and this worked out the other way around - my expectations were low mainly because of the race distance, but all three races were really quite close. I only had a couple of quali laps so I’m not setting the world on fire, but there’s plenty of opportunity to pick up the pieces when others start squabbling. Best result of 6th from 13th on the grid in the 650S

 

[TheNormsk]

4 laps for Race B is very funny. And very PD.

Race B is seriously 7 minutes long?

Lol is all I have to say to that. Who makes these decisions!

I have to say I am liking race B. I find it very intense and I need the rest time between races to let my heart rate drop! LOL.

So far the short format is preventing me from faffing things up too much as I usually drive worse the longer the race, especially when I am in top 3 positions. In this race I've gain from others taking themself out and even if they are really fast it's too short for them to get back in it. To do well (in lower DR B lobbies at least) you just need to stay on track and drive reasonably fast.

 

[Slowdan]

Had a go on C last night. Definitely need to work on Quali, there's a big old gap from the leaders to my time!

But I was 11th on the grid, so not the worst either. It was a bit of a mess through the esses on lap1, avoiding carnage ahead put me into carnage behind and I got pushed into the gravel at one point. Got back on it and just concentrated on staying on, which proved to be a reasonably successful strategy! 😁

A few others found themselves off the edge of the track and I managed to pick up places. I was making progress catching a CLK towards the end, who managed to spin it out of the chicane on the final lap, letting me steal an 8th place finish as he tried to get it facing the right way.

 

[GOTMAXPOWER]

This player didn't want to leave me much room, fortunately there is enough space to make alternative arrangements on the inside 👌

 

[AmateurDriver]

This weeks guide! I'm on a new wheel so made a few more mistakes than normal but should be still good information, entertainment and anything else you take away from it !

Lol, I was in the same race as you. The first one. As you can see I picked the right name for myself. I trully am THE Amateur! Congrats on your wheel mate. I hope we can race each other properly in the future.

 

[hardvibes]

Race B feels too short. 5 laps would have been better.

 

[samppa_944]

This player didn't want to leave me much room, fortunately there is enough space to make alternative arrangements on the inside 👌

Even the game said to heck with that driver and gave you no penalty 😎

 

[GOTMAXPOWER]

Even the game said to heck with that driver and gave you no penalty 😎

The game is quite good at letting you off with cutting corners if it detects contact, I am surprised it lets you drive there and doesn't reset you back though, it can be quite touchy on some corners.

 

[OJBrit]

This player didn't want to leave me much room, fortunately there is enough space to make alternative arrangements on the inside 👌

We don't need roads where we're going.

 

[Barney Da Dog]

Edit/ wrong part

 

[TechnoIsLove]

Sometimes, I am the one to blame for the fury 🤐 Hopped into 2nd account 5 minutes before a race and set a 1:41:3 and started on pole!

I was 3 seconds ahead on the end of lap 3 and then my foot slipped off the brake pedal and I went into the gravel... ⚰️ Finished in P2 around 1.5s behind winner after serving a 0.5s penalty for my off-road adventure, which is stupid...

Moral of the story, if you get sweaty feet, don't drive barefoot during a hot summers day 🤣

I then wanted to improve my qualy time on main account (was 1:41:150) and to really send my OCD into overdrive, I improve... To a 1:41:001 😵

Did another one in Race B on 2nd account, started P4 and made a podium. Was stuck behind a "slow" P2 all race and didn't want to pass forcefully, even though he weaved a lot.. 🫣

 

[Childe Roland]

Just gives me time to post more stuff here, between races.

No reason for it not to be a no-go... just find something to do while waiting. Qualifying, read a book, listen to an audiobook, post crap here, play Zelda for a few minutes, whatever...

Speaking of Zelda, while the wait between races seems excruciating long, it's not nearly long enough to really do hardly anything in Zelda. It's funny how long that time can feel, then how short it can feel. Time is relative, for sure!

As a reference I have some friends with similar pace to compare, and once I achive my optimal time I dont bother anymore with qualys.
Usually, on mondays I just do qualys until I feel confortable with the combo and start racing on tuesday.

Regarding Zelda, the last one I played (and this will expose Im not a child although my nickname) was the ocarine of time on N64 (something like 25 years ago )
That was the last Nintendo console I had and to add more years on the account, I also played previous Zeldas in the 8bit era on NES).

Back to the topic, between races I usually watch the replay from the last race to check the incidents

 

[newmedia_dev]

As a reference I have some friends with similar pace to compare, and once I achive my optimal time I dont bother anymore with qualys.
Usually, on mondays I just do qualys until I feel confortable with the combo and start racing on tuesday.

Regarding Zelda, the last one I played (and this will expose Im not a child although my nickname) was the ocarine of time on N64 (something like 25 years ago )
That was the last Nintendo console I had and to add more years on the account, I also played previous Zeldas in the 8bit era on NES).

Back to the topic, between races I usually watch the replay from the last race to check the incidents

I am the same, I grind mostly Mondays more for muscle memory race Tue-thur and then really try to improve my time ready for the weekend heroes

Bah I was playing wolfenstein on a shareware 3.5 floppy disk and before that wheel of fortune or jeopardy on a 5 1/4 floppy....let alone Zelda and FF 😝

I feel old, so old.

In between races I smoke...this is why I hate the longer breaks...I smoke more which I shouldn't!

EDIT:

Anyone else having the game crash sometimes loading races. Sometimes mine and others aren't loading and sometimes it just hangs on the race lobby screen. It hasn't ever done this since I bought the game at launch?

 

[GrumpyOldMan]

Regarding Zelda, the last one I played (and this will expose Im not a child although my nickname) was the ocarine of time on N64 (something like 25 years ago )
That was the last Nintendo console I had and to add more years on the account, I also played previous Zeldas in the 8bit era on NES).

I'm 66 and still play all that stuff.

As a reference I have some friends with similar pace to compare, and once I achive my optimal time I dont bother anymore with qualys.

I don't get it. First of all, I love doing Q laps. But most importantly, if you don't qualify near the start of the pack, you don't stand much of a chance. Let me rephrase that: If I don't qualify near the start of the pack, I don't stand much of a chance.

 

[ILLEAGLE_34]

I'm 66 and still play all that stuff.

I don't get it. First of all, I love doing Q laps. But most importantly, if you don't qualify near the start of the pack, you don't stand much of a chance. Let me rephrase that: If I don't qualify near the start of the pack, I don't stand much of a chance.

I thought the optimal time was only recorded for each qt/tt session? Can’t your optimal time change even if your fastest lap time doesn’t? I might be confused by how that works 🍻

 

[Slowdan]

My first racing game was Micro Machines on the NES, which I played with my little brother a lot way back when. He would constantly beat me which set me up nicely for having complete strangers from all over the place regularly beating me in GT7. 😁

I do some qualifying laps, mainly to make sure I know the layout and braking points. I think that the best (and most fun) way to learn a track comes from racing it, and this is supposed to be fun after all!

Had a couple of races at Barcelona last night. Starting 11th ish and 9th. Good fun tight battles, but I didn't make up much ground in the first, and lost places in the second due to an overly optimistic overtaking attempt. That dropped me back into DR B. So I went for a run at Suzuka, started 4th and hung onto the back of the 3rd place driver for most of the race. 2nd got dropped out of the lobby and the guy in front of me made a mistake and ended up stuck in the gravel, so I got a nice second place and a CRB out of it.

It feels like there's a big gap in speed between the B and C lobbies. I would have thought it would be closer between them? As it is, it feels like I'm back of the pack in the B lobbies, and right at the front in the Cs. Surely there must be a lobby where I'm closer to the middle! 😆

 

[TheNormsk]

Not much action on here tonight - perhaps we are all busy racing - or enjoying summer weather LOL.

I had a busy night.

Race 1 - C

I succumbed to the meta and QT'd in the NSX. Shaved nearly 2 seconds off my time. That car is quick and easy to drive!

Started Q7 but was up to P6 by turn 1. However I stuffed it on lap 2 in turn 8 to drop to P14. I fought my way back up to P7 by lap 10 but P8 hits me at turn 13 causing me to slip back to P9 which is where I ended. I was not happy and we had words in the lobby afterwards where they apologized. At least no DR points lost.

Race 2 - B

I jump over to Cataluna where I did so well yesterday. Q5 but I got knocked out at turn 1 at the start; down to P14. I climbed back to P10 by end of lap 1 as the first lap was chaotic. I climbed two more spots to finish P8. Mediocre but at least no DR points lost. Overall I preferred the Gr.2 cars

Race 3 - C

Started Q7 again but this time I lose it turn 1, slipping to last. Again a chaotic start and was back to P10 by end of lap 1. However, as I tried to chase down the field I sort of lost the plot and made mistakes all over to slip back to P11 and then on lap 7 I crash; P14. I continue and I get to P13 crossing the line and stop racing. Opps! I thought I just completed lap 10 but it was 9 and there was one to go! Meanwhile P14 passes me. I continue and cross the final finish line in last and P14 (or so I think) but then it jumps to P13. Guess someone exited before the finish. That was a bad race and a loss of 800 DR points, but it would have been worse if I had just quit.

Race 4 - C

I decided another C to redeem myself. Q5 start and I'm going well having survived the curves but then I bin it turn 8 by braking too late for a heavy lap 1 car; putting myself to last again. Through attrition and being focused this time I climbed back to finish P8 and save my DR and actually gain 200 points.

I realized that my early lap performance was off as I was not adjusting for the weight of the car with fuel. The NSX brakes vastly differently between full fuel and low fuel. Knowing that I generally have the pace when I'm focused I decide one more; my last for the night and remembering to account for first lap weight...

Race 5 - C

Q6 this time but I get P5 in the curves and then the top 5 (including me!) pulls away from the rest of the field. Without any pressure from behind I can focus on grinding down the cars in front. Sometimes I would be .3s behind and then slip back to a second back only to climb again. I couldn't find a way to pass though.. Then lap 7, P3 goes wide and P4 and I jump up spots; now P4. P1 is out of reach but P2 is close. On lap 8, P2 bins it in the curves and both P3 and I jump up a spot again. P3! And that is where I finished, not far behind P2.

Weirdly, GT7 did not give me the victory screen for 3rd place. I felt cheated.

My DR got a much needed 800 point boost from that which netted me a gain of 200 points for the night which is okay considering the shaky start to begin with.

I also did a race A as a warm up first thing. The less said about that dismal race the better! Luckily no DR or SR was harmed in my shameful performance there.

 

[dcalde78]

I've not been racing much the last few weeks which is probably a good idea after the 900 or so hours I've put into the game since release and it's given me time to think about the state of the Sport mode.

After this long, I would have hoped that things would have changed somewhat more than they have up to this point. BoP still doesn't work right, penalties are still questionable a lot of the time. Car groups sometimes don't make sense (why Group C cars are lumped in with modern LMP cars I don't know). Meta cars are so overpowered to the point where they become one make races. Being able to rent cars has no downside, road cars aren't used nearly often enough and races with "strategy" usually boil down to trying to do a no-stop most of the time as the pit lane times are so long. Races with variable weather have been done at tracks that have the longest pit lane (Spa) or the longest track length (Nurburgring), meaning that it's not about skill or strategy but more about luck and if the weather goes your way for the tyres you pick at the start.

I've had a lot of fun and some great races in GT7 but PD really aren't doing much to keep me hooked on the "daily" (I still can't believe they haven't added in a daily race or just changed the name to weekly) races any more.

 

[permaculture]

I've not been racing much the last few weeks which is probably a good idea after the 900 or so hours I've put into the game since release and it's given me time to think about the state of the Sport mode.

After this long, I would have hoped that things would have changed somewhat more than they have up to this point. BoP still doesn't work right, penalties are still questionable a lot of the time. Car groups sometimes don't make sense (why Group C cars are lumped in with modern LMP cars I don't know). Meta cars are so overpowered to the point where they become one make races. Being able to rent cars has no downside, road cars aren't used nearly often enough and races with "strategy" usually boil down to trying to do a no-stop most of the time as the pit lane times are so long. Races with variable weather have been done at tracks that have the longest pit lane (Spa) or the longest track length (Nurburgring), meaning that it's not about skill or strategy but more about luck and if the weather goes your way for the tyres you pick at the start.

I've had a lot of fun and some great races in GT7 but PD really aren't doing much to keep me hooked on the "daily" (I still can't believe they haven't added in a daily race or just changed the name to weekly) races any more.

and this is why I switched finding lobbies / clubs a few months ago. Many of the issues you described can plausibly be fixed when actual people test the car settings and fuel/tire rates. Not to mention, driving with people you recognize adds an accountability - and this game effectively requires an honor system to overcome the penalty system

there can still be good racing in GT7, but PD seems to do 0 testing on any of the cars or race combos. what’s crazy is, like you, I thought this would’ve been sorted long ago!

 

[GrumpyOldMan]

I thought the optimal time was only recorded for each qt/tt session? Can’t your optimal time change even if your fastest lap time doesn’t? I might be confused by how that works 🍻

"Optimal time" isn't recorded at all - it's just something the they show on thar one screen. (To my knowledge, anyway.)

I do some qualifying laps, mainly to make sure I know the layout and braking points. I think that the best (and most fun) way to learn a track comes from racing it, and this is supposed to be fun after all!

Had a couple of races at Barcelona last night. Starting 11th ish and 9th.

Qualifying is the only way to improve your starting positions. Starting back in the pack is always going to be a struggle. And as the week goes on, if your Q times don't improve, you'll end up further and further in the back of the pack.

 

[ILLEAGLE_34]

"Optimal time" isn't recorded at all - it's just something the they show on thar one screen. (To my knowledge, anyway.)

Qualifying is the only way to improve your starting positions. Starting back in the pack is always going to be a struggle. And as the week goes on, if your Q times don't improve, you'll end up further and further in the back of the pack.

Recorded/ measured by the game. Not sure how to articulate it. Say you’re qualifying for a new daily race and you put in ten laps. Your optimal time is the best sectors of those ten laps added together? If after those ten laps you retry or exit, and then do another say 5 laps. Does it use all 15 laps to calculate your optimal time or just the laps for a single session (5 laps as the example)? Hopefully that makes sense?🍻

 

[newmedia_dev]

Recorded/ measured by the game. Not sure how to articulate it. Say you’re qualifying for a new daily race and you put in ten laps. Your optimal time is the best sectors of those ten laps added together? If after those ten laps you retry or exit, and then do another say 5 laps. Does it use all 15 laps to calculate your optimal time or just the laps for a single session (5 laps as the example)? Hopefully that makes sense?🍻

The optimal is only based on the single (multi lap session)

It changes every time you start a new session based on the sector performances for that session.

If you do a 3 lap session exit and then do a < 2 lap session you aren't shown an optimal.