GT7 Daily Race Discussion

[Mc_Yavel]

I'm being continuously put in mixed lobbies, with a majority of DR A players, 2 to 3 DR A+ (Barney Da Dog was on pole in one of those races) and few DR B (like me). Is this because I'm at ar 80/85% DR B? If Yes, why do I have to deal with DR A+ guys also?

Could it be because of people getting a hit in their SR rating? The pooling of players for a race start with SR, so if there is a wide spread of SR the game will be looking in other DR group to fill the room with same SR.

 

[Gurzu]

Could it be because of people getting a hit in their SR rating? The pooling of players for a race start with SR, so if there is a wide spread of SR the game will be looking in other DR group to fill the room with same SR.

I don't think so. I'm SR S and the others DR B players in mixed lobbies were also SR S, but SR of DR A players was varying from B to S and A+'s SR between A and S.
I start to think that it may be due to two factors: my QT was yesterday within the 500 fastest overall (within 150 fastest B) coupled with the fact that I'm near to rank up to DR A. I've seen there's always ar 1 sec gap between poleman and 10th-12th at start. That is also a tool PD uses in matchmaking, I guess (not so sure btw). I fear that if I go below 56 with my QT I'll end up in lobbies with majority of A+ drivers. I'm now really thinking to "sandbag" with my improvements even if I know where to gain that 1/2 sec left.

 

[Mc_Yavel]

I don't think so. I'm SR S and the others DR B players in mixed lobbies were also SR S, but SR of DR A players was varying from B to S and A+'s SR between A and S.
I start to think that it may be due to two factors: my QT was yesterday within the 500 fastest overall (within 150 fastest B) coupled with the fact that I'm near to rank up to DR A. I've seen there's always ar 1 sec gap between poleman and 10th-12th at start. That is also a tool PD uses in matchmaking, I guess (not so sure btw). I fear that if I go below 56 with my QT I'll end up in lobbies with majority of A+ drivers. I'm now really thinking to "sandbag" with my improvements even if I know where to gain that 1/2 sec left.

Make sense, I also get put in top split lobby when I was top DR.B. But I don't play at peak hour most of the time, so less player count.

I also sandbag my QT to try avoid those lonely races in 14th where everybody in front pulls away. The other reason for sandbagging is the difference in laptime between cold start lap and 30th lap where you in the zone. That way, even if I'm 14th I know I can fight for a better finish and have some action in my races.

 

[ImbaSteckdose]

Ok I'm not the best race driver but racing in Daily B today is frustrating, I'm getting penalties and body damage left and right, even when passing others at a conservative line. Monday and today in every lobby (DR mid B) every player has had the yellow 2 bar network connectivity icon, I think the multiplayer servers are not suited for races at near 400 kph.

 

[Nakano219]

I don't think so. I'm SR S and the others DR B players in mixed lobbies were also SR S, but SR of DR A players was varying from B to S and A+'s SR between A and S.
I start to think that it may be due to two factors: my QT was yesterday within the 500 fastest overall (within 150 fastest B) coupled with the fact that I'm near to rank up to DR A. I've seen there's always ar 1 sec gap between poleman and 10th-12th at start. That is also a tool PD uses in matchmaking, I guess (not so sure btw). I fear that if I go below 56 with my QT I'll end up in lobbies with majority of A+ drivers. I'm now really thinking to "sandbag" with my improvements even if I know where to gain that 1/2 sec left.

Your qualifying time has nothing to do with the matchmaking. The matchmaking logic is purely a sort of 1) DR letter (so all A+s first regardless of their SR, then all As, then Bs and so on), then 2) SR score (so a bad SR score drops you behind other people of the same DR letter even if your DR score is better than theirs), then 3) DR score.

If you're a B DR driver and in a lobby that also has A+ DR drivers, the only reason for that is that there aren't enough A DR players in that race to fill a lobby.

 

[Childe Roland]

I'm being continuously put in mixed lobbies, with a majority of DR A players, 2 to 3 DR A+ (Barney Da Dog was on pole in one of those races) and few DR B (like me). Is this because I'm at ar 80/85% DR B? If Yes, why do I have to deal with DR A+ guys also? Starting always in mid pack (6th or 7th), I see that I could survive, unless (like in the race where Barney was 1st) when there was an idiot hitting whom ever was in front of him since first braking. I got 4 sec penalty because of him divebombing and hitting somebody (while I was cautious, leaving room and taking my line) bouncing back against me when I was already committed to my line (very internal). Still wondering from where that 4 sec penalty came from. 14th at first lap to end up 9th (with the "hitman" behind me). In these lobbies I see my weekend going two ways. Either I rank up to A (with placements mid pack) or I go back to C cause of inevitable accidents. Let's see.

The best way to progress in DR is to be matched with much higher ranked opponents because you have significant more points to gain than to lose. If the difference is big enough you can even gain DR finishing last.

By the other way, aliens with High A+ rating have to pick very carefully the time to race because unpopulated lobbies mean a big hit on their DR even winning those races.

 

[Voodoovaj]

Wow, I do like this Le Mans race, but it's been an absolute KILLER for me. A+ S on Monday, and B C now. This bump draft has caused me to collide with others and frustrations have caused me to quit. Oh well, gives me more reason to try better. On the upside, I pocketed a couple of wins since the ratings hit. 💩

 

[newmedia_dev]

Wow, I do like this Le Mans race, but it's been an absolute KILLER for me. A+ S on Monday, and B C now. This bump draft has caused me to collide with others and frustrations have caused me to quit. Oh well, gives me more reason to try better. On the upside, I pocketed a couple of wins since the ratings hit. 💩

I swear they do this every so often as a sort of natural culling/rebalancing.

They are completely aware of these issues but run with them any way. That applies to B as well this week.

 

[Childe Roland]

Wow, I do like this Le Mans race, but it's been an absolute KILLER for me. A+ S on Monday, and B C now. This bump draft has caused me to collide with others and frustrations have caused me to quit. Oh well, gives me more reason to try better. On the upside, I pocketed a couple of wins since the ratings hit. 💩

When your DR is about to being reset, the "trick" to rebuild SR is to pick some race A or B just to park it on the pits.
I had to do it on that week of Gr1 at Monza.
I Know, its boring and it has some DR costs but it is what it is.

Im still racing at Le Mans with no SR hits and bump drafting the whole race.
You just have to avoid the bump at full throttle and also avoid it at all if your speed is significant higher than the car ahead.

 

[NAXEHT]

By the other way, aliens with High A+ rating have to pick very carefully the time to race because unpopulated lobbies mean a big hit on their DR even winning those races.

No.

Careful, yes, because a second place in a lobby of 15 much lower ranks will be a significant loss. But a win will always be a gain, even if I'm at 80,000 DR and my opponents have 7,000. It'll be a "gain" of about 2-3 points or thereabouts if the opponents are that extremely low ranked but you won't lose DR by winning, even if the opponents are the worst and low ranked you could find.

I used to track this thing in detail back in GT Sport when we had access via kudosprime to the exact numbers and could see them update after every race.

 

[newmedia_dev]

won't lose DR by winning, even if the opponents are the worst and low ranked you could find

I saw in Rory's stream both Naïf and Laporty loosing DR when winning in A/A+ lobbies this was a month or so ago.

 

[Hasnain282]

I saw in Rory's stream both Naïf and Laporty loosing DR when winning in A/A+ lobbies this was a month or so ago.

This'll be if they left or disconnected from another race and then did this one
They probably lost more from leaving than they gained from winning the next one
(Unless of course the algorithm has been changed)

 

[smcqueen46]

I start to think that it may be due to two factors: my QT was yesterday within the 500 fastest overall (within 150 fastest B) coupled with the fact that I'm near to rank up to DR A. I've seen there's always ar 1 sec gap between poleman and 10th-12th at start.

Where can you see your QT in comparison with others with the same DR?

 

[Voodoovaj]

When your DR is about to being reset, the "trick" to rebuild SR is to pick some race A or B just to park it on the pits.
I had to do it on that week of Gr1 at Monza.
I Know, its boring and it has some DR costs but it is what it is.

Im still racing at Le Mans with no SR hits and bump drafting the whole race.
You just have to avoid the bump at full throttle and also avoid it at all if your speed is significant higher than the car ahead.

I believe you are correct, but is it really so important? Yes, I want to be in the rooms with SR S players, but I can earn my way back in a few races next week. A low DR/SR doesn't stop me from anything.

 

[Childe Roland]

No.

Careful, yes, because a second place in a lobby of 15 much lower ranks will be a significant loss. But a win will always be a gain, even if I'm at 80,000 DR and my opponents have 7,000. It'll be a "gain" of about 2-3 points or thereabouts if the opponents are that extremely low ranked but you won't lose DR by winning, even if the opponents are the worst and low ranked you could find.

I used to track this thing in detail back in GT Sport when we had access via kudosprime to the exact numbers and could see them update after every race.

Maybe something changed from GTS to GT7? because I saw it happen in American top splits.

I saw in Rory's stream both Naïf and Laporty loosing DR when winning in A/A+ lobbies this was a month or so ago.

A few months ago I saw someone losing DR points after winning in my lobby and I remember the case because it was the after race topic in the chat.

Edit: maybe what @Hasnain282 posted could explain the case... I didnt consider that.

 

[newmedia_dev]

This'll be if they left or disconnected from another race and then did this one
They probably lost more from leaving than they gained from winning the next one
(Unless of course the algorithm has been changed)

I can't remember accurately enough to be certain and I'm not going through streams but I'm sure there was a morning session where Laporty won 3/4 on the bounce and was losing DR in most of them.

BUT I can't say I'm accurate on it, just it was discussed in chat at the time.

Side note @Nebuc72 im using gcooley_66 as my VR only account as an FYI I couldn't add you because of settings

 

[Gurzu]

Where can you see your QT in comparison with others with the same DR?

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[Voodoovaj]

I can't remember accurately enough to be certain and I'm not going through streams but I'm sure there was a morning session where Laporty won 3/4 on the bounce and was losing DR in most of them.

BUT I can't say I'm accurate on it, just it was discussed in chat at the time.

Side note @Nebuc72 im using gcooley_66 as my VR only account as an FYI I couldn't add you because of settings

It would be nice if they simply SHOWED the numbers like they do with everything else. I'd MUCH MUCH MUCH rather they tell me my SR and DR score than the amount of fuel I've burned 🙄

 

[newmedia_dev]

It would be nice if they simply SHOWED the numbers like they do with everything else. I'd MUCH MUCH MUCH rather they tell me my SR and DR score than the amount of fuel I've burned 🙄

We all need to know our carbon neutrality score mate



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