GTP Cool Wall: 1970-1977 Triumph Stag

[GranTurismo916]

1970-1977 Triumph Stag nominated by @jeffgoddin

Engines: 3.0L V8 (Triumph V8)
Power: 145 hp
Torque: 170 lb-ft.
Weight: 1270 kg
Transmission: 3-speed automatic, 4-speed manual
Drivetrain: Front engine, rear wheel drive
Body Styles: 2-door coupe, 2-door convertible
Additional Info: "The Stag rapidly acquired a reputation for unreliability, caused by Triumph's lack of budget to properly develop the engine. As such, it didn't sell well, and fewer than 26,000 were made. As a modern car of its day, it was a flop. But as a classic..."​

Spoiler: Additional Pics

 

[Thomas__633]

Sub-zero... until it brakes down.

 

[SVT Cobra GT]

Grown old gracefully and eventhough the engine was so poor it does make one of the best V8 noises.

Solid cool.

 

[Niku Driver HC]

The Stag... Now this is the case of what I like to call "Good idea, unfortunate backstory". When Triumph devised the Stag, it had all the potential to become one the finest British sports cars of its era. A cruiser with muscle, and still subtle and elegant. All the potential to become England's own Ford Thunderbird.

But then British Leyland happened. The planned Rover V8 was ditched in favor of a "home-built" one, which prompty ruined the mechanical aspect of the car, since all the Triumph V8 wanted to do was implode on its owner and cause all sorts of headaches. And of course, thanks to the poor management of BL, most cars had severe quality issues, which didn't help matters.

I can help but to feel sad when I see a Stag. Because then I think "Boy, you could've gone far in life, but then you had to be tied to one of the worst car groups on all of the United Kingdom, huh?". So, while it is a splendid designed, elegant British cruiser, I have to give this car a high Uncool. I like the car, but the whole notion that British Leyland ruined what could have been a good sports car is too much for me.

 

[Roo]

One of two default I-want-an-affordable-classic-British-sports-car choices, the other being the MGB. Meh.

 

[Wiegert]

One of two default I-want-an-affordable-classic-British-sports-car choices, the other being the MGB. Meh.

I'd put the Spitfire alongside the MGB before the Stag in that regard.

With its combination of sound and looks, the Stag sets itself apart from many of its British brethren at the time. Not Triumph's proudest moment, but it's an undoubtedly cool sports car in this day and age. Sort of like the '70s equivalent of a Speed Six-powered TVR.

 

[Stotty]

Lovely looking cars, but saddled with 70's British Leyland build quality and an engine made of cheese.

Low cool... if running.

 

[Thomas__633]

I just saw
145 hp
V8
Wat? Shouldn't it be about 250hp or something?

 

[Niku Driver HC]

I just saw
145 hp
V8
Wat? Shouldn't it be about 250hp or something?

As I said before, the development of the Stag's V8 engine was hardly a smooth one. And it shows...

On a related note, here are pictures of a coupe version of the Stag, which was sadly canned by British Leyland (gits) before it could enter production:

http://www.aronline.co.uk/blogs/con...totypes/concepts-and-prototypes-triumph-stag/

 

[Adamgp]

Ugly, unreliable, and poor quality.

Uncool.

 

[TheCracker]

Engine sounded great, but as others have stated, it was a dud.

Italian styling never looked special, especially not in the muted BL-era mustard yellows, dung browns, clay beiges and dull greens that most seemed to come in. Uncool.

The similar looking Triumph 2000/2500 saloon looked similar and had similar power from its more reliable straight 6. The TR6, using the same 6cyl was also better looking and more sporting.

I just saw
145 hp
V8
Wat? Shouldn't it be about 250hp or something?

That's about the same as the 5ltr Ford Windsor was putting out at the time.

 

[Beeblebrox237]

Sean Connery drove one in Diamonds are Forever. That has to count for something.

I give it a high cool, I've always liked the Stag and from what I've read the issues with the engine have been mostly sorted out today. It's a slightly quirky take on the classic British sports car, with V8 power and plenty of comfort and space.

 

[synchromesh]

Sub zero, because when it works; it's awesome.

 

[Dennisch]

Low cool. Would have been higher if my knowledge on these wasn't as much as it is.

These are a perfect example of how terrible cars can be build.

Luckily nowadays parts for them are of much higher quality, the engine is easily swapped for a more reliable specimen and a V8 manual is just good.

 

[Tornado]

I just saw
145 hp
V8
Wat? Shouldn't it be about 250hp or something?

Why would a 1970s 3 liter engine be expected to put out that much power?

 

[Cano]

I have always liked the pseudotargathing-style greenhouse of these. Buy one, wait for it to destroy itself, swap in an LS (lol), and profit.

 

[Niku Driver HC]

I have always liked the pseudotargathing-style greenhouse of these. Buy one, wait for it to destroy itself, swap in an LS (lol), and profit.

While that's an interesting idea, why not swap the engine for a Rover V8 instead? You can still get the British posh, more than enough parts to cater for it, and you can make the Stag that Triumph wanted, without the nonsensical approach of the British Leyland group. I'd say that's still a setup with potential...

 

[Cano]

While that's an interesting idea, why not swap the engine for a Rover V8 instead? You can still get the British posh, more than enough parts to cater for it, and you can make the Stag that Triumph wanted, without the nonsensical approach of the British Leyland group. I'd say that's still a setup with potential...

If I'm gonna go trough all the trouble of swapping in another engine, I'm sure as hell won't settle with a 215-inch Buick boat anchor. I'd go all out.

 

[Niku Driver HC]

If I'm gonna go trough all the trouble of swapping in another engine, I'm sure as hell won't settle with a 215-inch Buick boat anchor. I'd go all out.

Fair enough. After all, if you can go modern, I guess you are entitled to make that choice. I wonder if fitting a LS would be a hard or easy task, though...

 

[Cano]

Fair enough. After all, if you can go modern, I guess you are entitled to make that choice. I wonder if fitting a LS would be a hard or easy task, though...

Nothing our friend the power sawzall can't solve.

 

[Roger the Horse]

Haynes meanz beanz.

 

[JR98]

Cool

 

[Tornado]

While that's an interesting idea, why not swap the engine for a Rover V8 instead? You can still get the British posh, more than enough parts to cater for it, and you can make the Stag that Triumph wanted, without the nonsensical approach of the British Leyland group. I'd say that's still a setup with potential...

That's an awful lot of needless suffering to inflict on yourself.

 

[Niku Driver HC]

That's an awful lot of needless suffering to inflict on yourself.

Well, I'm sure someone had to go through it at some point... And most engine swaps can give you quite the headache anyways, so it's not just a Rover thing.

 

[Dennisch]

I have always liked the pseudotargathing-style greenhouse of these. Buy one, wait for it to destroy itself, swap in an LS (lol), and profit.

Exactly.

 

[Dagger311]

Cool, dragged down from SZ by the unreliability.

 

[Zenith]

Rover V8's are common swaps into MGB's. If that fits then an LS7 sure can...

 

[All Your Base]

Nothing really appeals to me. Meh.

 

[Crash]

Fair enough. After all, if you can go modern, I guess you are entitled to make that choice. I wonder if fitting a LS would be a hard or easy task, though...

If there's a swap, there's a LS.

 

[The87Dodge]

Like the styling, but I don't get why this car is named for a male deer.

Low cool.