GTP's Hot Version Touge Showdown
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Korza
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- 3,787
- Christchurch, NZ
- kamikazi493
Hei
Scion FR-S '12
Time: 33.965
I loved this car. Its the first 86/FR-S/BRZ that I've enjoyed to drive. It just grips and grips and will never become unsettled. I would say this is the perfect car for a beginner to learn the basics of touge driving in.
Pros:
- Excellent Handling
- Excellent Response
- Excellent Brakes
- Excellent Stability
- Easy To Drive
Cons:
- None
Score: 100/100
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Mat123
Toyota MR2 Spyder (6MT) '02
Time: 33.867
This is a good little car. It is mostly neutral to drive (I did notice slight understeer on occasion) and has a perfect gearbox for the course.
Pros:
- Excellent Handling
- Excellent Response
- Excellent Brakes
- Excellent Stability
Cons:
- Slight Understeer
Score: 99/100
Scion FR-S '12
Time: 33.965
I loved this car. Its the first 86/FR-S/BRZ that I've enjoyed to drive. It just grips and grips and will never become unsettled. I would say this is the perfect car for a beginner to learn the basics of touge driving in.
Pros:
- Excellent Handling
- Excellent Response
- Excellent Brakes
- Excellent Stability
- Easy To Drive
Cons:
- None
Score: 100/100
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Mat123
Toyota MR2 Spyder (6MT) '02
Time: 33.867
This is a good little car. It is mostly neutral to drive (I did notice slight understeer on occasion) and has a perfect gearbox for the course.
Pros:
- Excellent Handling
- Excellent Response
- Excellent Brakes
- Excellent Stability
Cons:
- Slight Understeer
Score: 99/100
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Korza
Premium
- 3,787
- Christchurch, NZ
- kamikazi493
- 2,529
- Alton, Illinois
- big_noobowski924
^ it's okayyyy Mat. Just take all the go fast bits off and there ya go. lol
- 2,234
- Parañaque, PH
- FD3S_Mat
- None
I'd rather have a completely stable and nicely tuned car, than being out of control.
- 2,380
- livonia/mi/usa
- jc18137
Also, your car has way more torque. Also guessing that is the root of your understeer.
AND WELCOME TO HEI's BIASED JUDGING!
For my 1st spectacle, Onboy's MR2 Spyder!
Lap time: 3:06.926
2nd sector: 34.226 ,3rd Sector: 59.273
It's fast alright. Lot's of torque, and a MR drivetrain. Though it has serious oversteer issues. IT doesn't like uphill turning at all because if you get on the gas a bit too much, you're sideways. The transmission is too short. I red lined at 139/140 every time. I know that's fast, but it could be slightly faster. I do like the brakes though, even though the car hates quick braking in the esses. After 6 laps, managed to learn it, and with quite a bit of throttle control, managed a fast lap. The lap after was slightly faster, and that's the one you see here. It's a fast car, but not for beginners.
Pros:
-Fast acceleration
-Good turn in
Cons:
-Trans too short
-oversteer issues on exit
Verdict: 97/100
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On to fbccars924.
Lap time:3:07.247
Sector 2: 33.771 ,Sector 3: 59.336
This car killed me. It oversteers more than Onboy's, with a ginormous spoiler! THis car needs the dampers re-tuned desperately, as the car oversteers like mad on exit. On the plus, I did manage a fairly last lap with lots of throttle control and early braking. I would have gotten into the high 3:06 range, but the oversteer kept stopping me every time I outran my ghost. It does have slight understeer off throttle though, like a 4wd car.
Pros:
-above average entry
-Can be fast(with serious care)
Cons:
-Oversteers like mad
-slight understeer off throttle
Verdict:95/100
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Rob's MR2.
Sector 2: 34.389, sector 3: 59.535
God, I don't know if it's me or the car, but I hate it. I want to burn it to the ground. I want to point at the places it molested me in front of a judge and jury. It's fast. It's really, really fast. Though it has super strong understeer. REALLY STRONG UNDERSTEER. I can't drive a lap without hitting the wall, that or oversteering on exit. If you shift to soon, or brake too late, the car will understeer into oversteer. Tap on the gas a wee bit early and you can expect oversteer. That greatly slows you down. It's a great car, especially the gearbox. It's 10 miles faster per hour on the straight compared to my stock-ish FRS. My best lap was a 3:07.235. I know it can be faster. The 7/5 brakes are killing me though.
Pros:
-Fast
-great gearbox
-suspension
-SO MUCH TORQUE(uphill)
Cons:
-The brakes are killing me.
-SO MUCH TORQUE(on exit)
The verdict:96/100
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Mat's MRS:
Sector 2: 33.690 Sector 3: 59.161
God, this is a bit bias, but driving this after Rob's felt good. It's pretty easy to drive. It's a tad loose on the rear, so extracting those extra tenths gets excruciating. Other than that, it's magnificent. No other qualms or worries.
Pros:
-transmission is dead on
-easy to drive
-manages its massive torque (more than Rob's) very well.
Cons:
-it's a tad soft on the rear end, causing oversteer on exit
Verdict:99/100
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Alright tested 787bcgr's Cappuccino.
Lap Time 3:15.849
Sector 2: 35.832, Sector 3: 1.00.288
I love this car, after a while of getting used to it and it's no abs behavior, I can destroy the apexes of Akina. The only thing wrong is slight oversteer.
Pros:
-Almost everything
Cons:
-slow and underpowered(but it's a Kei car)
-slight oversteer mid turn
Verdict: 98/100
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SolidSnake7735's Hair Dresser special.
Lap time: 3:06.992
Sector 2: 34.070,Sector 3: 59.001
This car is pretty enjoyable to drive. It inspires confidence. It does have very mild understeer. The 5 speed does slow it down a bit, and it does suffer a bit in 4th, and suffers heavily in 5th. Other than that, no other problems.
Pros:
-Great suspension
-Great brakes
Cons:
-mild understeer
-clunky trans
Verdict 98/100
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SVX's EG6.
Lap time: 3:13.855
Sector 2: 34.885 ,Sector 3: 1:00.721
This car is fun and easy to drive. It is rather slow and has retained a bit of understeer off throttle. On-throttle though, it is a grippy little beast.
Pros:
-Amazing suspension
-Great turn in on throttle
-Fine tuned trans
Cons:
-Pretty slow
-mild understeer off throttle
Verdict: 98/100
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RJ's RSEX
Lap time: 3:08.577
Sector 2: 34.115 ,Sector 3:59.754
God this car drives great. Best car I've driven tonight. It takes the turns so well! It may be slow on the straight but it makes it up were it counts. It has the same problem as my FRS though. Being new, and pretty much 200 hp stock, it is of lower pp and higher weight, so it's a tad slower than the main competition on the straights and the uphills.
Pros:
-Amazing suspension
-Hell's almost everything
Cons:
-A bit slow on straights and uphills
Verdict: 99/100
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TakumiFuji01's Not-so-Swift
Lap time: 3:20.586
Sector 2: 36.105 ,Sector 3: 1:00.999
I finally see where all the understeer that RJ got rid of went. You may say there is no understeer, but that's because you are going so slow it's unseen to the untrained eye. I'm going 56 in a turn I'm doing 63 in other cars, yet the car wanders heavily from the apex allll the way to the outside on a lot of turns.
IT's also soooooo slow. Am I driving a Stock car? No, worse. The stock Swift dances around the track and pushes the rear out a tad under hard braking. It's slower than the Kei car Cappuccino. I drove it like mad to get the times I got on my DS3.
Pros:
-ummmm...... it moves
Cons:
-Ridiculously slow around the entire track.
-understeer
Verdict: 80/100 (generous)
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Krenkme's Celica
Lap time: 3:10.337
Sector 2: 34.708 ,Sector 3: 59.982
This car is quite fun. A tad slow, but great for the only 4wd entry. It has very mild understeer occasionally, but otherwise great car.
Pros:
-Great suspension
-Great trans
-very stable throughout turn
Cons:
-mild understeer
-a bit slow on straights and uphill
Verdict: 97/100
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Last of all, my ride.
Lap time: 3:05.
Sector 2: 33.778 ,Sector 3: 57.810
Not much to say, just wanted my times here. My score doesn't count. I did this in 3 laps. From the 1st lap I was running low 3:07's. The car is that easy to drive and it allows you to do some ballsy moves. It's slow as hell on the straights, as slow as the Celica, but I destroy the turns.
AND WELCOME TO HEI's BIASED JUDGING!
For my 1st spectacle, Onboy's MR2 Spyder!
Lap time: 3:06.926
2nd sector: 34.226 ,3rd Sector: 59.273
It's fast alright. Lot's of torque, and a MR drivetrain. Though it has serious oversteer issues. IT doesn't like uphill turning at all because if you get on the gas a bit too much, you're sideways. The transmission is too short. I red lined at 139/140 every time. I know that's fast, but it could be slightly faster. I do like the brakes though, even though the car hates quick braking in the esses. After 6 laps, managed to learn it, and with quite a bit of throttle control, managed a fast lap. The lap after was slightly faster, and that's the one you see here. It's a fast car, but not for beginners.
Pros:
-Fast acceleration
-Good turn in
Cons:
-Trans too short
-oversteer issues on exit
Verdict: 97/100
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On to fbccars924.
Lap time:3:07.247
Sector 2: 33.771 ,Sector 3: 59.336
This car killed me. It oversteers more than Onboy's, with a ginormous spoiler! THis car needs the dampers re-tuned desperately, as the car oversteers like mad on exit. On the plus, I did manage a fairly last lap with lots of throttle control and early braking. I would have gotten into the high 3:06 range, but the oversteer kept stopping me every time I outran my ghost. It does have slight understeer off throttle though, like a 4wd car.
Pros:
-above average entry
-Can be fast(with serious care)
Cons:
-Oversteers like mad
-slight understeer off throttle
Verdict:95/100
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Rob's MR2.
Sector 2: 34.389, sector 3: 59.535
God, I don't know if it's me or the car, but I hate it. I want to burn it to the ground. I want to point at the places it molested me in front of a judge and jury. It's fast. It's really, really fast. Though it has super strong understeer. REALLY STRONG UNDERSTEER. I can't drive a lap without hitting the wall, that or oversteering on exit. If you shift to soon, or brake too late, the car will understeer into oversteer. Tap on the gas a wee bit early and you can expect oversteer. That greatly slows you down. It's a great car, especially the gearbox. It's 10 miles faster per hour on the straight compared to my stock-ish FRS. My best lap was a 3:07.235. I know it can be faster. The 7/5 brakes are killing me though.
Pros:
-Fast
-great gearbox
-suspension
-SO MUCH TORQUE(uphill)
Cons:
-The brakes are killing me.
-SO MUCH TORQUE(on exit)
The verdict:96/100
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Mat's MRS:
Sector 2: 33.690 Sector 3: 59.161
God, this is a bit bias, but driving this after Rob's felt good. It's pretty easy to drive. It's a tad loose on the rear, so extracting those extra tenths gets excruciating. Other than that, it's magnificent. No other qualms or worries.
Pros:
-transmission is dead on
-easy to drive
-manages its massive torque (more than Rob's) very well.
Cons:
-it's a tad soft on the rear end, causing oversteer on exit
Verdict:99/100
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Alright tested 787bcgr's Cappuccino.
Lap Time 3:15.849
Sector 2: 35.832, Sector 3: 1.00.288
I love this car, after a while of getting used to it and it's no abs behavior, I can destroy the apexes of Akina. The only thing wrong is slight oversteer.
Pros:
-Almost everything
Cons:
-slow and underpowered(but it's a Kei car)
-slight oversteer mid turn
Verdict: 98/100
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SolidSnake7735's Hair Dresser special.
Lap time: 3:06.992
Sector 2: 34.070,Sector 3: 59.001
This car is pretty enjoyable to drive. It inspires confidence. It does have very mild understeer. The 5 speed does slow it down a bit, and it does suffer a bit in 4th, and suffers heavily in 5th. Other than that, no other problems.
Pros:
-Great suspension
-Great brakes
Cons:
-mild understeer
-clunky trans
Verdict 98/100
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SVX's EG6.
Lap time: 3:13.855
Sector 2: 34.885 ,Sector 3: 1:00.721
This car is fun and easy to drive. It is rather slow and has retained a bit of understeer off throttle. On-throttle though, it is a grippy little beast.
Pros:
-Amazing suspension
-Great turn in on throttle
-Fine tuned trans
Cons:
-Pretty slow
-mild understeer off throttle
Verdict: 98/100
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RJ's RSEX
Lap time: 3:08.577
Sector 2: 34.115 ,Sector 3:59.754
God this car drives great. Best car I've driven tonight. It takes the turns so well! It may be slow on the straight but it makes it up were it counts. It has the same problem as my FRS though. Being new, and pretty much 200 hp stock, it is of lower pp and higher weight, so it's a tad slower than the main competition on the straights and the uphills.
Pros:
-Amazing suspension
-Hell's almost everything
Cons:
-A bit slow on straights and uphills
Verdict: 99/100
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TakumiFuji01's Not-so-Swift
Lap time: 3:20.586
Sector 2: 36.105 ,Sector 3: 1:00.999
I finally see where all the understeer that RJ got rid of went. You may say there is no understeer, but that's because you are going so slow it's unseen to the untrained eye. I'm going 56 in a turn I'm doing 63 in other cars, yet the car wanders heavily from the apex allll the way to the outside on a lot of turns.
IT's also soooooo slow. Am I driving a Stock car? No, worse. The stock Swift dances around the track and pushes the rear out a tad under hard braking. It's slower than the Kei car Cappuccino. I drove it like mad to get the times I got on my DS3.
Pros:
-ummmm...... it moves
Cons:
-Ridiculously slow around the entire track.
-understeer
Verdict: 80/100 (generous)
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Krenkme's Celica
Lap time: 3:10.337
Sector 2: 34.708 ,Sector 3: 59.982
This car is quite fun. A tad slow, but great for the only 4wd entry. It has very mild understeer occasionally, but otherwise great car.
Pros:
-Great suspension
-Great trans
-very stable throughout turn
Cons:
-mild understeer
-a bit slow on straights and uphill
Verdict: 97/100
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Last of all, my ride.
Lap time: 3:05.
Sector 2: 33.778 ,Sector 3: 57.810
Not much to say, just wanted my times here. My score doesn't count. I did this in 3 laps. From the 1st lap I was running low 3:07's. The car is that easy to drive and it allows you to do some ballsy moves. It's slow as hell on the straights, as slow as the Celica, but I destroy the turns.
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- 2,529
- Alton, Illinois
- big_noobowski924
^?!?!?!? WHATS MY SCORE? 
I did manage a mid 3:05 in the MR-S (Reflex Spice) my chameleon green one was in the 3:06's with same power but less torque. I have seen a trend with my MR-S it seems to take great care to go fast with. It's either really close to being good or way off to left field doing donuts.
I did manage a mid 3:05 in the MR-S (Reflex Spice) my chameleon green one was in the 3:06's with same power but less torque. I have seen a trend with my MR-S it seems to take great care to go fast with. It's either really close to being good or way off to left field doing donuts.
- 2,234
- Parañaque, PH
- FD3S_Mat
- None
^?!?!?!? WHATS MY SCORE?
3:05? You sure?
Last I've checked, you've only been managing 3:15's.
- 2,529
- Alton, Illinois
- big_noobowski924
- 2,234
- Parañaque, PH
- FD3S_Mat
- None
Well, if it's true, your driving changed with that MR-S. Anyways, keep it up. 👍
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