GTsport flopping in North America.

[Huzar]

Why is GTsport flopping in North America b? Even after price cut it's not in the top 100 of amazon. 127th right now.

In comparison DLC on disk Uncharted Lost legacy is top 50 as is Horizen Forza7 Wolfenstein. Even old Uncharted 4 is still in the top 100 as is Last of us Remaster.

What is it about GTsport that making it such a flop in NA, is it the lack of content or the foolish esport gyst of it ? GT6 managed 1/4 of all its sales in NA, this might not even managed half those sales. Even Europe might not be able to sustain the franchise if they keep eroding consumer confidence in the brand at this fast a pace. The game is not hitting of well with a large chunk of the fanbase.

Could it be Forzas quality that's eroding GT worth in the minds on NA consumers.
Lack of content (cars/tracks)
no offline at launch
mediocre reviews

?

is their one specific item that's doing much of the damage or is it the perfect storm ?

Me personally could tolerate a lot if the cars and tracks were there.

 

[ChevapBH]

I swear 150 of 153 of your messages are ******** on the game. Get a job or something. Unless that's your job.

 

[Ian Fairbanks]

I swear 150 of 153 of your messages are ******** on the game. Get a job or something. Unless that's your job.

Zing! I couldn’t have said it better myself.

 

[ZnA1209]

I swear 150 of 153 of your messages are ******** on the game. Get a job or something. Unless that's your job.

Don't like the thread topic, or the poster? Don't post then. It's a valid question, just because someone disagrees with your opinion on the game doesn't mean you get to dump all over them.

He didn't say the game was crap, he simply asked why GTS isn't doing as well in NA compared to other AAA titles, or even previous iterations of GT.

You should be respectful, even if you don't agree. I don't get why the opinions of others is so threatening to some.

If there's one thing I've noticed on GTP is the amount of criticism people who don't like the game, or disagree with the direction it's taken get from the fanboys.

It's why I've stopped posting/commenting for the most part.

 

[ZnA1209]

That being said, I think the fact that there's No GT mode is a huge reason.

 

[superwally]

Even if this was GT7-meaning a fully updated for PS4 traditional GT-style game-I don't think it was going to sell well. PD take too long to put games out, and do not appeal to the need for most gamers to have continual feedback from developers about what they are doing. A lot of the base already aged out or moved to a different platform, like Forza. They probably weren't coming back unless PD hit one over the fence.

People in the US don't care about racing much at all anymore, and in total numbers there are far fewer race fans than for stick and ball sports. Younger urban people don't relate to cars at all, and the more rural NASCAR fanbase is not going to be interested in what GTS has to offer.

The only way PD will find sales success with this version is over the long haul, with people who like the ease of online racing it provides and stick with it. Sales will have to be sustained by updating content and features over the long term in a way that hasn't been tried with a driving game before. I think the basics are all in place but it will be up to PD to keep things rolling and give people a continuing reason to buy in.

 

[Kirkus04]

Personally I don't form opinions based off reviews or sales numbers. If I enjoy the game, and get my perceived value out of it, then the game is a 10/10 in my books. The GTS community right now is plenty big enough to keep online play interesting, and with ongoing support from PD it looks like its only going to get better.

On the flip side, I purchased Asetto Corsa when it came out, I think I maybe played 10 hours before putting it down and never touching it again. Sure the game is considered a milestone in racing simulation, but to me, I didn't get my value out of it.

You have an opinion, great, move on. No need to litter the forums trying to convince everyone that your opinion is gods word.

 

[VFOURMAX1]

Road Racing in this country has no popularity at all among the general public. The only Indy car race that gets any attention is the Indy 500. I live about 65 miles from a road race circuit that features both bike and car racing. If you do not search out the schedule there online you will never hear about upcoming events they put on at the track

Pretty sad that even pro racing does not get any attention at all being that close to an event.

 

[Huzar]

Road Racing in this country has no popularity at all among the general public. The only Indy car race that gets any attention is the Indy 500. I live about 65 miles from a road race circuit that features both bike and car racing. If you do not search out the schedule there online you will never hear about upcoming events they put on at the track

Pretty sad that even pro racing does not get any attention at all being that close to an event.

Yahh but it's always been like that, that not a recent developments is it ? Yet Previous GTs have done great. No matter what other racing games did GTs still did great. North American Racing interest never hurt GTs in the past yet this one struggling so freaking bad.

Personally I don't form opinions based off reviews or sales numbers. If I enjoy the game, and get my perceived value out of it, then the game is a 10/10 in my books. The GTS community right now is plenty big enough to keep online play interesting, and with ongoing support from PD it looks like its only going to get better.

On the flip side, I purchased Asetto Corsa when it came out, I think I maybe played 10 hours before putting it down and never touching it again. Sure the game is considered a milestone in racing simulation, but to me, I didn't get my value out of it.

You have an opinion, great, move on. No need to litter the forums trying to convince everyone that your opinion is gods word.

I'm not debating its merits their value or lack of, but its market struggles are no opinion but clearly evident by sales rankings and amazon charts. The point of the thread seems to have flown over your head.

 

[dylpro]

Amazon lists aren't sales numbers. Amazon lists aren't sales numbers. Amazon lists aren't sales numbers.

 

[Huzar]

Amazon lists aren't sales numbers. Amazon lists aren't sales numbers. Amazon lists aren't sales numbers.

lol so are you implying amazon charts have no meaning and GTsport is selling like hot cake sin NA ? Gtsport will outsell Cod maybe.

 

[dylpro]

lol so are you implying amazon charts have no meaning and GTsport is selling like hot cake sin NA ? Gtsport will outsell Cod maybe.

Nope not implying that at all. But Amazon best seller lists have been used here before. About GT Sport. Basically the exact same thread you've just started. Those lists have little bearing outside Amazon.

 

[superwally]

Yahh but it's always been like that, that not a recent developments is it ? Yet Previous GTs have done great. No matter what other racing games did GTs still did great. North American Racing interest never hurt GTs in the past yet this one struggling so freaking bad.



I'm not debating its merits their value or lack of, but its market struggles are no opinion but clearly evident by sales rankings and amazon charts. The point of the thread seems to have flown over your head.

As you said, GTS has a lot of competition. GTS took a long time to come out. In between, people moved on, and with GTS not being GT7, not as many people will give it a shot, the content is not currently what they are looking for. In my opinion PD knew that building Iracing lite was not going to be the best way to top the sales charts. I think they deliberately did something different, and I applaud the effort, success or fail.

 

[MikeTheHockeyFan]

I swear 150 of 153 of your messages are ******** on the game. Get a job or something. Unless that's your job.

Now, now, let's not judge without checking the evid.....oh, lord

Why is GTsport flopping in North America b?

Stop making excuses for those fools and their mediocre product. Forza 5 did it in 2013, gave me 200 cars on launch. PD in the infinite incompetence took 4 years

It is all it is today nothing more i won't pretend otherwise like some of you, as everything else is wishful thinking giving there is very little announced.

Damn english leaving Europe, what what they think their going to be Muricas Newfoundland now ehh.

Go have fun bud, all the power to you.

Sems you are desperate to defend a mediocre game, is it less of a game to you if other think less of it or do you have a mind of your own ?

Does it explain how in 4 years of development PD achieves less then Turn ten did in 2 ?

lol GTsport is like the best makeup ever done, but on a cow and i mean literally a freaking cow going moo moo in a field.

Kaz talking out of his ass is exactly what it sounds like, just more empty talk from a known liar.

11th - Gran Turismo Sport

Filed to crack top ten in USA, got out sold by Forza7.

Common sense like that doesn't work with PD and Kaz are concerned.

[...]

Whats Kaz "needs to be fired" Yamauchi's excuse ?

Iv quit as many races as i have finished. And near giving up on the online and thus the whole game.
[...]
Racing genre is just not suited for online play

Seeing this is a thread about sales, and nowhere did i state the game is "bad".

A release date to me is the only legitimate confirmation.

Kaz talking out of his ass is exactly what it sounds like, just more empty talk from a known liar.

It's a big big GT7"Stype".[...]

 

[VFOURMAX1]

Gimme a T
Gimme a R
Gimme a O
Gimme a L
Gimme
another L
Whatcha Got?

TROLL!

 

[MikeTheHockeyFan]

Trolls normally put a little effort into their posts, this is just like a rogue Russian twitter bot or something

 

[Kirkus04]

I'm not debating its merits their value or lack of, but its market struggles are no opinion but clearly evident by sales rankings and amazon charts. The point of the thread seems to have flown over your head.

Thats exactly what Im saying, you're forming an opinion based off segmented data, then dropping rhetorical statements to push your own agenda.

"is it the lack of content or the foolish esport gyst of it"
"they keep eroding consumer confidence"
"The game is not hitting of well with a large chunk of the fanbase."
"Could it be Forzas quality that's eroding GT worth"

There is a difference between presenting an argument, and pushing an opinion. Im sorry that yours is purely based off selective data.

Here's a perfect example of a counter statement for you:

Why is GT Sport doing so incredibly well in the UK? Even after its been out for over a month its still the top selling racer, beating out both Forza and Need For Speed.

In comparison the newly released and highly anticipated Wolfenstein only ranked 7th, where GT S still ranked 3rd.

What is it about GTsport that is making it so successful in the UK? Is it the consistent and refined foundation of the game? The announcement of free upcoming DLC? How exactly is it the top selling racing game right now?

Could it be that GT is actually the greatest game of all time?
The graphics?
The consistent netcode?
Great reviews?

Is it one specific reason why GTsport is selling so well? or is it just a perfect day at the beach?

Me personally I've played almost 200 hours of GTsport and that confirms that its the greatest game of all time.

See how biased and idiotic that sounds? Im sure you disagree with everything. But nuuuumbers don't lie....

 

[ChevapBH]

Now, now, let's not judge without checking the evid.....oh, lord

Exactly. If you paid someone to ****post, he wouldn't do as much as OP. I don't mind criticism, I have my own issues with them game, but to ****post a game for a month that you don't enjoy? Either mental issues or paid to do it because why would anyone spend so much time talking about something they don't enjoy. If you like Forza, there is a sub for it. Isn't it better even for him to be in positive enviroment instead of constant negativity every day for a month? It's just insane to me.

 

[Aphelion]

Trolls normally put a little effort into their posts, this is just like a rogue Russian twitter bot or something

Gimme a T
Gimme a R
Gimme a O
Gimme a L
Gimme
another L
Whatcha Got?

TROLL!

He isn't a troll . Just a regular person who is jaded against Gran Turismo. Nothing overly sinister here.

 

[SlipZtrEm]

...aaaand we're done here.