Has anybody ever won "like the wind" with a FF car?

[the Interceptor]

Hi!

I've searched for this matter, but I didn't find anything valuable. If I overlooked something, please point me to the direction I can find details on this.

Has anybody ever tried and probably succeeded to win the high speed race "like the wind" in extreme hall with a FF car? I know it's kind of pointless, but for people that have done everything in GT4, it might be a new challenge. I've tried a lot of FF cars now, but I didn' succeed yet.

The one to tune to the highest hp figure I found yet is the current Mitsubishi Eclipse. I brought it to over 500hp. Unfortunately, you can't buy NOS for it, which seems to be essential to have any chance at all. Generally, the problem is that you lose loads of ground at the start, cause the FF cars can't put their power down properly in GT4. And once you've lost that, it's very hard to catch up again. Still, with some skills, loads of luck and the right opponent cars, it may be possible.

Other cars that have proven to be very fast are the...

Mitsubishi FTO
Honda Integra Type-R
Ford Focus RS
Toyota Celica-II

Without NOS, the Exlipse was the fastest by far though. It can well keep up with the opponent cars in the slipstream, but you are too far away to even get there at the start.

I also tried to find the cars with the biggest engines to get as much power as possible, but none of the bigger V6s like the Acura CL, the Alfas or even the Ford Taurus (V8) were fast enough. It seems to be essential to have the peak torque as high up as possible (like the FTO and the Integra), so you get the maximum force at the end of 6th gear.

Has anybody ever tried this or is willing to, sharing his/her experiences?

Regards
the Interceptor

 

[MasterStorm]

I gave it a try earlier, but I don't think it's possible.

I used a Dodge SRT-4, fully tuned to 511hp (including oil change). I set that car up so that I could maintain around 209mph without NOS.

I set the car up to use a 70 shot of NOS, and I used this entirely down the beginning straight in order to lose as little time as possible from the others. I managed to keep close enough that I could slipstream 5th place (which was a Ford GT LM Race Car).

My plan was to slipstream with the 5th place car in order to get as fast as possible, just as you need to do in Mission 23. I would then catch up the remaining difference when the opponents pitted.

However, the slipstreaming did not gain me as much speed as I would have liked. My slipstreaming could have been quite a bit better, but I don't think it would have improved things much.

I finished in 4th place, 20.1xx seconds behind the winning car (a Sauber C9). The two cars I beat were the Ford GT, and a Mazda 787B which I overtook whilst it was pitting.

I think that to win this you would need to average about 225mph all the way round to win this (assuming you do not pit), but I don't know any FF cars that can do this without NOS. Sure you can reach above that by slipstreaming, but you can't slip stream all the time.

 

[the Interceptor]

The SRT-4 was a great hint, it's by far the quickest yet. I just got second behind the CLK-GTR that didn't pit. 👍

It worked out perfectly. I slipstreamed the way slow Gillet Vertigo in the beginning and did 3 laps on my own to meet the threesome of Minolta, and Nissans coming out of the pits, which I slipstreamed 'til the end and just slipped by in the last curve.



EDIT: I did it!



You can make it if all the fast cars pit. If you make an ideal run slipstreaming the slower ones, you can get into the slipstream of the leader when he comes out of the pits, follow him and just crawl by at the last moment, probably with some NOS you saved.

It's quite a challenge though, so anybody's welcome to try. 👍

Regards
the Interceptor

 

[kekke2000]

The SRT-4 was a great hint, it's by far the quickest yet. I just got second behind the CLK-GTR that didn't pit. 👍

It worked out perfectly. I slipstreamed the way slow Gillet Vertigo in the beginning and did 3 laps on my own to meet the threesome of Minolta, and Nissans coming out of the pits, which I slipstreamed 'til the end and just slipped by in the last curve.



EDIT: I did it!



You can make it if all the fast cars pit. If you make an ideal run slipstreaming the slower ones, you can get into the slipstream of the leader when he comes out of the pits, follow him and just crawl by at the last moment, probably with some NOS you saved.

It's quite a challenge though, so anybody's welcome to try. 👍

Regards
the Interceptor

Thats amazing! I found out it may be easier with this car...

(power bhp/weight kg)
SRT4 (511/1350)
Integra Touring Car (539/1050)

 

[the Interceptor]

Thats amazing! I found out it may be easier with this car...

(power bhp/weight kg)
SRT4 (511/1350)
Integra Touring Car (539/1050)

Sure, but I wanted to use a normal car. Only if I had found that to be totally impossible, I'd have tried a race car. I did try the Cup Beetle, but it's ... errrr .... sloooooow.

 

[MasterStorm]

The SRT-4 seems better for high speed than the Integra Touring Car (I tried both at the test track, as well as the Citroen Xsara Rally Car).

Excellent to see that you did it! I guess you made a much better job of slipstreaming than I did. In my attempt, I wasn't close enough to the leading cars after they pitted.

Were you slipstreaming the Toyota 7 for the start few laps? I would have though that was too fast to keep up with.

 

[LGforce]

didn`t you guys test the Honda Accord. i think she fast too. don`t know.

 

[the Interceptor]

The SRT-4 seems better for high speed than the Integra Touring Car (I tried both at the test track, as well as the Citroen Xsara Rally Car).

Ah, good to know, thanks!

Excellent to see that you did it! I guess you made a much better job of slipstreaming than I did. In my attempt, I wasn't close enough to the leading cars after they pitted.

Well, that took me some attempts. In a previous race with some other cars, I also missed the leader like 4 or 5 times in a row. With other opponents it worked better though. Let's see if I get them all together:

Nissan CP92 or 89 (fast)
Sauber C9 (fast)
Toyota GT-One (fast)
Pescarolo (average, you can just keep up with him without slipstream)
Toyota 7 (slow)

I think I'll make some photomode shots of this...

Were you slipstreaming the Toyota 7 for the start few laps? I would have though that was too fast to keep up with.

Well, at the start, I accelerated as hard as possible using the full redline up to 7.000 rpm. From 4th gear on, I used NOS set to the middle (40 I think) until I reached 350 kph (219 mph). I then held that speed through the curve (I always drove on the inside btw) by tapping the NOS. At the end of the tunnel, I reached the slipstream of the Toyota 7. I left my NOS alone (You should save one or two dots for the finish) and used the slipstream up to the following curve, where I jumped on the inside. Then, I saw the Pescarolo pretty close all the time. I was not close enough to get into its slipstream, so I just followed it. At the end of lap 3, the Leader pitted. When he came out, I even overtook him. In the following curve, he got me again though. I chained myself to his slipstream (be careful that he doesn't loose you when he passes, you might want to get in his way so he slows down) up to the final curve. Before the curve, I granted him some car lengths, and at about the middle of the curve, I floored the SRT-4. It starts coming closer slowly in the slipstream. If you are just behind him, use the NOS to jump on the inside and cross the finish line first.

didn`t you guys test the Honda Accord. i think she fast too. don`t know.

Yeah I did, I also thought a Honda would perform great. It's not bad, but there's no Turbo available, so it just doesn't gather enough power.

Regards
the Interceptor

 

[kekke2000]

The SRT-4 seems better for high speed than the Integra Touring Car (I tried both at the test track, as well as the Citroen Xsara Rally Car).

Yeah i tried it and i couldn't make it go faster than 325 km/h without nos and it's impossible to disable the downforce.

 

[diospen]

Inspired by this thread, I took my beloved Mini Marcos to this race.

Absolutely stock: top speed 114mph

After 39 seconds I was 22 seconds behind, so I knew I was in for a tough race.

In the end, the entire field lapped me twice. They went past so fast, they almost spun me round!

Perhaps if I tweak the suspension...

 

[2078TM]

Perhaps if I tweak the suspension...

Don't give up, I'm sure it's good for at least 116

 

[the Interceptor]

Don't give up, I'm sure it's good for at least 116

Don't laugh, I just won the race with my Ginetta G4:



As I've done the FWD challenge, I thought I'd try to use as little hp as possible to win it, and it worked. It is tuned to the max though, but still giving out only 234 horses.

Regards
the Interceptor

 

[SilverEclipse01]

Don't laugh, I just won the race with my Ginetta G4:



As I've done the FWD challenge, I thought I'd try to use as little hp as possible to win it, and it worked. It is tuned to the max though, but still giving out only 234 horses.

Regards
the Interceptor

CONGRATS to you for these wins! When I first saw this thread, I laughed. "No way that is going to happen. A front-wheeler winning the Wind race? Ha!"

Well, thanks for showing me I was wrong and for proving that there are still different, challenging, clean 200 ASpec wins to look for. 👍

 

[Dark Elite]

What is the world coming to?


An interesting idea, Interceptor, and as soon as I saw it the SRT-4 jumped into my head - I believe it's the fastest FF car we've talked about in the 300mph Club, recording something like 280mph, if I recall correctly. MS beat me to it, though! Congratulations on actually doing it, though 👍

Now, I must get my Ginetta back out on the track after that!

DE

 

[Leonidae]

I knew that Ginetta could do it, since I did achieve 180mph without nos in it, and it still was accelerating. low weight and moderate power, put the together with good aerodynamics and you have a winner.

 

[elementkid72895]

not yet but i am working on it plan to get it soon

 

[Dark Elite]

Why have you dug up an old thread when you have nothing at all to add to it, and when the question in the thread title has already been answered and discussed in some detail? The general rule here is not to add posts, particularly to dated threads, when you have nothing new to contribute to the thread topic.

Please read and aquaint yourself with the AUP, it will help keep you out of trouble with the moderators, as will improving your spelling and grammar. Thanks.

DE

 

[05GT05]

winning it might be possible with the super touring fto that you win from some endurance race (I think its Tokyo but idk for sure). I would try it but i sold the car right affter I won it cause back then I needed money.

 

[MasterStorm]

winning it might be possible with the super touring fto that you win from some endurance race (I think its Tokyo but idk for sure). I would try it but i sold the car right affter I won it cause back then I needed money.

Unfortunately, the FTO SuperTourer is 4WD from what I recall, so not eligible for this particular challenge. I'm pretty sure it's capable of winning though.

And yes, you do win it from the Tokyo endurance. 👍

 

[tinus2017]

The Ginetta G4 is FR right??

 

[the Interceptor]

Yes, it is.

 

[Tornado]

Perhaps the Alfa GT could accomplish this feat? I've noticed it has quite a lot of power as well (500 flat). Maybe one of the three Eclipses? Or the Volvo S60?

 

[ving]

lol, have to try it with a fiat!
thanks for a good read folks

 

[the Interceptor]

Perhaps the Alfa GT could accomplish this feat? I've noticed it has quite a lot of power as well (500 flat). Maybe one of the three Eclipses? Or the Volvo S60?

I tried the Alfa, it was nowhere near the Neon in top speed. The Eclipse sounds great, but there's no NOS available for it, which you can't do without. I didn't try the S60 though...

 

[D-Mind]

Acura CL has 260 HP stock, wich is pretty much considering it being a FF.

 

[the Interceptor]

I did try the CL, but it wasn't fast enough.

 

[D-Mind]

Ok.

 

[kennythebomb]

Don't laugh, I just won the race with my Ginetta G4:



As I've done the FWD challenge, I thought I'd try to use as little hp as possible to win it, and it worked. It is tuned to the max though, but still giving out only 234 horses.

Regards
the Interceptor

The Ginetta G4 is seriously an underrated car in this game. With a little suspension work and some downforce, it is a rocketship.

This was proved recently in the Weekly Drag Series, week 4 thread - would you believe that car can do the quarter mile in 9.7 seconds?

https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/showthread.php?t=92314

Good job on using an FF car to beat this race, by the way 👍

 

[T4 GTR]

The SRT-4 was a great hint, it's by far the quickest yet. I just got second behind the CLK-GTR that didn't pit. 👍

It worked out perfectly. I slipstreamed the way slow Gillet Vertigo in the beginning and did 3 laps on my own to meet the threesome of Minolta, and Nissans coming out of the pits, which I slipstreamed 'til the end and just slipped by in the last curve.



EDIT: I did it!



You can make it if all the fast cars pit. If you make an ideal run slipstreaming the slower ones, you can get into the slipstream of the leader when he comes out of the pits, follow him and just crawl by at the last moment, probably with some NOS you saved.

It's quite a challenge though, so anybody's welcome to try. 👍

Regards
the Interceptor

The cars that I have found that pit in are as follows:

• Nissan R92CP
• Nissan R89C
• Minolta Toyota 88C-V
• Nissan R390
• Bentley Speed 8
• Audi R8
• Pugeot 809
• Pescarolo C60

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[Niels]

Hehe my god!! I was like

No way...

When I read this thread title.
But I just wondered why it hadn't been closed yet if it was such a dumb subject. If anyone would've told me someone would pull it off inside this thread, and consiquently would pull it off with a Ginetta G4...then...I dunno what lol. I would've laughed straight at their face! But now I'm gonna try as well, see how far this Ginetta of me can go

Very very nice thread subject!!!