Help on CSP

[vitor costa]

Hi, is that someone can give me a hand?

I have a CSP and yesterday tried to change the covers brake and clutch to left, only to change the screws to the queue to the right.

I did just that and lost the vibration on the brake pedal.

I tried to reset as it was but still no vibration. Do not quite understand why because it is a very simple operation where we loosen and retighten the screws on the other holes on the right.

Any suggestions on this? Any help would be aprecciated.

Thank you.

 

[Fanatec...]

The vibration motor is attached to the screws you changed. If you are not careful you could have damage the cable to the motor. But it should be easy to solder.

 

[vitor costa]

The vibration motor is attached to the screws you changed. If you are not careful you could have damage the cable to the motor. But it should be easy to solder.

Thks for your help. I think I didn`t damage the cable just because I only took the screws to the other hole and I took care of the vibration motor. I do the vibration test in the CSP control panel and it does work.

Is there any particularity about how to fix the vibration motor? I think it has only one position.

 

[vitor costa]

I watched really carefully and I don`t found any problem. The cable attached to the motor is still there and I don`t found a way to see if is damage or not. Should I open the vibration motor to check? How can I do it?

I loved this function in my brand new CSP and now I can`t get it. I ´d apreciate any help about this.

 

[versapak]

I am not quite sure what it is you did as far as as screws go...

Was it just shifting the pedal plates themselves over?

Seeing that the vibration works in the control panel, I must ask... Have you adjusted the knob on the base behind the brake pedal? It is directly linked to the vibration, and if you turned it down, it could be the reason you are no longer getting any vibration.

 

[vitor costa]

I am not quite sure what it is you did as far as as screws go...

Was it just shifting the pedal plates themselves over?

Seeing that the vibration works in the control panel, I must ask... Have you adjusted the knob on the base behind the brake pedal? It is directly linked to the vibration, and if you turned it down, it could be the reason you are no longer getting any vibration.

Sorry for my english

It was just shifting the pedal plates more to the left.

The vibration works in the control panel. The knob is just it was before, near the maximum.

 

[vitor costa]

What I did was just this, without the part of removing the spacer from the gas pedal.

When I did this I lost vibration ingame. So I changed again to the original setup but nothing happens.

The vibration motor is placed like this and the cable is in place, in the vibration motor and in the other part.

I´m really sad about the situation because I loved the vibration when the wheels blocked.

 

[versapak]

Okay, that is what I thought you were talking about.

I still think it must have something to do with the brake force adjustment knob. Maybe one of the wires on it came loose or something.


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[vitor costa]

I didn`t touch with the brake adjustment knob. I just remove the screws to move the pedal plates and put it the same way. The brake adjustment is OK and it`s not relationed.
It`s the brake vibration I can`t feel now ingame.

 

[VRracer]

I do not have the CSP but could it be that the vibration motor is now off center of your foot ? Does it just not transmit the vibration as well with the peddal moved over to the side ?

OK, re-read...you have no vibration at all...
Are there any brake vibration motor check boxes in a driver menu somewhere that got un-checked ?

 

[vitor costa]

The strange about this is that I can feel the vibration in the vibration test on control panel. It means that the vibration motor is working.

But ingame, now I lost the feeling of the vibration on brake or it is much weacker that I can`t feel it anymore. But i ust to feel it well on brake, on wheels lock.

 

[VRracer]

The strange about this is that I can feel the vibration in the vibration test on control panel. It means that the vibration motor is working.

But ingame, now I lost the feeling of the vibration on brake or it is much weacker that I can`t feel it anymore. But i ust to feel it well on brake, on wheels lock.

That does sound a bit like what I thought could be going on with the peddal moved off center ?
Did you install any spacers or somthing that could also be dampaning or killing the vibration ?
Some people say they can't feel it very much while wearing shoes. Were you in socks only when you first used the CSP with vibration ?

 

[versapak]

I didn`t touch with the brake adjustment knob. I just remove the screws to move the pedal plates and put it the same way. The brake adjustment is OK and it`s not relationed.
It`s the brake vibration I can`t feel now ingame.

I understand that you didn't touch the knob, but when moving the pedal plates, it could be possible that you managed to knock a wire loose, or maybe it was just loose to begin with, and has now lost connection due to movement.

If you get vibration from the control panel, then the vibration motor and its connection to the computer is working fine. What isn't working fine is the connection between the pedal and the vibration, and that is linked to the brake force knob.


What could also be the cause of your issue is the ABS settings on the wheel itself. Do you have it now switched off? Do you have it set to 100% or something high like that?

 

[Fanatec...]

Very simple:
In order to make the vibration motor on the ABS working you need to connect the pedals directly to the wheel and not with the USB cable. You also need to set a ABS value in the Tuning menu like "90". Afterwards you will feel the vibration whenever you pressed 90%

 

[vitor costa]

That does sound a bit like what I thought could be going on with the peddal moved off center ?
Did you install any spacers or somthing that could also be dampaning or killing the vibration ?
Some people say they can't feel it very much while wearing shoes. Were you in socks only when you first used the CSP with vibration ?

I didn`t install anything. I just moved the pedal plates.
The conditions of use are the same. No shoes and no socks

I understand that you didn't touch the knob, but when moving the pedal plates, it could be possible that you managed to knock a wire loose, or maybe it was just loose to begin with, and has now lost connection due to movement.

If you get vibration from the control panel, then the vibration motor and its connection to the computer is working fine. What isn't working fine is the connection between the pedal and the vibration, and that is linked to the brake force knob.


What could also be the cause of your issue is the ABS settings on the wheel itself. Do you have it now switched off? Do you have it set to 100% or something high like that?

I had the same amount in the wheel settings: 75%. Now I moved to 100% but it`s just the same.

Very simple:
In order to make the vibration motor on the ABS working you need to connect the pedals directly to the wheel and not with the USB cable. You also need to set a ABS value in the Tuning menu like "90". Afterwards you will feel the vibration whenever you pressed 90%

That`s strange because I had the pedals with USB cable and they`re working fine, including vibration Althought, the first time I tried to use the wheel, it was on PS2 connetion, with the vibration on. Since I had some problems with the PS2 connetion I switched to USB. And the vibration was working fine until moving the plates. I thought it was the same thing connecting by PS2 or USB.
I´m gonna try that way to see if it works.

Thanks again for your help guys. I`m a brand new user of Fanatec (usted to be G25) and I´m loving it, including the CSP

I`ll give news.

 

[vitor costa]

Ok guys, the solution provided is working I can feel the vibration motor on the brake pedal again. The only thing that messes me up is that this was working with USB cable too. But that`s not a problem if it works in PS2 cable.

Thank you all for your help and specially Thomas for the solution 👍

 

[VRracer]

"Thank you all for your help and specially Thomas for the solution"

You mean the guy that was the originator of Club Sport Peddals, the man that built them with his own two hands, is also the same guy that had the right answer? Go figure..LOL..Somehow I knew it would be Thomas and not some guy manning a Tec support line.

I think Thomas has all the right answers....and his next right answer will be..Club Sport Shifter

 

[stephenb]

Got a problem of my own I hope someone can help with. My new PWTS and Clubsports arrived today. On checking how the pedals would fix to my playseat evo it was apparent I would need to adjust the pedal throw to get a more comfortable angle on the pedal faces, in the default position they are to upright.

I was following Thomas' video on how to take them apart but didn't get very far as I hit a problem with the second set of screws that need to be removed. I was wondering why the first screw I picked was so stiff, should have realised sooner something wasn't right 🤬, when I noticed that its removal was being prevented by the back bar partially covering the screws head. It looks as though it's the same, just, on the other side as well.

As you can see from the picture my beautiful new pedals are now rather the worse for wear Is it possible to remove the back bar? If I could do this I could get the bent screw out (circled in red) and put in a replacement. I've tried losening the screws on both sides but they don't want to budge! Gratefull for any suggestions you may have.

 

[vitor costa]

I´m sorry but by that picture I could`t realise what`s the problem. I did not understood the problem by your explanation but the problem must be of my english...

 

[stephenb]

At 3min 30sec in this video. I was trying to remove the first of these screws and was having problems, then I realised the back bar was covering part of the screws head. Unfortunately the screw is now stuck part way out and bent out of shape and has resulted in a small gap opening up as indicated in my picture. If I could unscrew the bar from the pedal base then I could get to the damaged screw and replace it.

 

[Ibonibo]

Thomas, I have the same problem : no vibration, i didn't noticed it till i tumbled on this thread. I though because i race with shoes i simply don't get it. now i verifyed by dismounting it and holding it in the hands while pressing the vibration button on the pc.
I'm connected via ps2 so that shouldn't be the problem. but i did change the cover plates. I did hold the motor in place while changing the pedals.
but can you say where the cables could have loosen in order to verify. I can also take a picture if needed.
Thanks

EDIT: I just checked the connectors on both sides and i don't see a default. On the motor the cables (both) still sit tight, but i don't want to pull on them as you say they are fragile. Can the motor itself be opened to look if the solderpoints are still tight.

 

[Ibonibo]

Fanatec :
Should i contact your support for this or can you help me out here??

 

[vitor costa]

Ibo,

Have you tried to adjust the AbS setting in the led pannel? You can adjust this there. I use 75% and it works great. I´m on PC with Race series (07/on/evo) and GTR2 and it works there. But I reversed the cover plates to the original.

Try to adjust the strenght amount on the screws either.

 

[Fanatec...]

I would try it with the ABS function and not with the driver.

Actually, if you have connected the CSP to the wheel and at the same time you can see the driver panel of the CSP it means that you also have it connected to the USB port.

This will damage wheel and pedals!

Please use only one cable.

 

[Ibonibo]

the abs on the wheel is set to 95%

I tested the csp on the pc on the Porsche Wheel Property Page when the wheel was connected to the pc and the CSP were connected to the wheel via ps2.

Tried with pushing the pedal to the max, wheel rumbles brake pedal not.
And tried it on the Porsche Wheel Property Page with the vibration button.
There is no vibration at all. I also unscrewed the motor and hold it in the hands to see if the motor was getting a too weak signal

I tested it on this screen downloaded under the wheel driver section and not CSP



Thanks for the reply

 

[Ibonibo]

Here's a pic of the cables from the motor:



Do they look normal?

 

[Fanatec...]

Please check with our e-support. Perhaps they have an idea.

 

[Ibonibo]

OK. I sent them all the info i had and as asked.

I saw this later :

Just was looking the inverted pedal guide and there is saw this

Compared to mine.




As i didn't change the socket and the whole board is updated, i don't think the problem lies here, just asking...
and i don't wanna try to change the socket for trial in fear to fry something