Help/Tips

[Tidgney]

Hey,

Just thought I'd start a thread offering tips and help to people who might want to improve their time but can't seem to improve it. As you know I have a tutorial and if anyone wants to add any tips/tricks to improve times just post below.

Tips:

- Be Patient let the car roll round a corner, over aggression will cause the car to slide and loose more time.
- Exit of corners can be more important than entries (Especially with straights leading of the corner)
- DS3 Users: If you find that you are struggling with over steer try Active Steering on mild.

Last Sector Tips:

- Your aim is to maintain 89-91 mph round the right hand corner maintaining a very inside line. When the track straightens (In a general perspective) this is your brake and turn in point, your aiming for 77 mph + on the apex of the bend and an exit speed of reaching the exit kerb of 90mph + (3rd-4th gear transition). This corner is all about patience.

- The double left (Well double apex) is a third gear corner and to hit both apexs at a speed of 81 mph+, while trying to maintain no oversteer and inside line on the corner. Braking point is the dent in the barrier.

- The double right (Last corner) is a 4th gear apex into a 3rd gear apex (My line anyhow) the second apex is extremely late and a 70 mph apex, leading onto the straight try and miss out the "Dint" on the straight as much as possible by maintaining only 1 wheel on the road. Your aim is to hit the Start/finish line at a speed of 125 mph, (I hit 126mph once lol never done it again :S).

Tutorial:

 

[Molydood]

I don't have any tips but wanted to give a thumbs up to this thread and basically offer encouragement to those with muchos speed to get posting!

I am sitting at 219.5 and struggling to know how to take the last sector properly as I lose at least a second there.

Cheers to tidgney for the tutorials too

 

[markyboy92]

Nice vid mate.👍

 

[PR1VATEJ0KER]

How you record and stream your ps3? hd pvr?

 

[Tidgney]

Blackmagic intensity pro ^^. Cheers for the compliments . Obviously as people improve lines and such may change same with braking/acceleration as mine are slightly different but should help to begin with! .

 

[Tidgney]

Updated with last sector tips as it is the hardest sector. I have no idea why I am giving my targets, guidelines away but i suppose its 1 thing knowing em and another hitting em because I can't hit em every lap lol (Most laps in fact).

edit: wow cheers for the sticky .

 

[nMd_pRo]

edit: wow cheers for the sticky .

Man you totally deserved it.

I'm stunned by the way you can set a 2:17:119 with a Pad, thats just, wow, i done miself a bit better with came to 2:17:852.

but i still lose a bit too much time in the second sector, the left turn right after the 1st sector split time, i let the car roll but the 1st guy keep wining me .400sec and that a lot at this stage, hope i can get a time like yours.

thanks for this guide lines, very helpful

 

[Tidgney]

Cheers,

For the left hander I think I reach 91 mph before I hit the brakes/turn in on that corner, and then try and maintain an inside line which I try and keep as much as possible by slightly touching brakes/accelerating to make sure I don't touch the brown bit which chucks you back on track, but staying inside. Its a half throttle on the exit into full throttle once the cars straight and you know it won't oversteer over the top of the hill.

Hope that helps .

 

[dj-smurph]

Nice you just showed me where I was going right and you showed my that I either got the right speed but not line on some and vice versa on the rest. Thanks for the guide best 30 mins I have dedicated to GT Academy yet.

 

[Tidgney]

Nice you just showed me where I was going right and you showed my that I either got the right speed but not line on some and vice versa on the rest. Thanks for the guide best 30 mins I have dedicated to GT Academy yet.

Great no problem!! . If you need any more help with anything feel free to ask! Happy to help out .

 

[MichaelJP]

Any tips for maintaining traction out of corners? I'm using a pad, and I can stay with the faster ghosts on the way into corners and on the apex, but if I try and match their acceleration out I just seem to get wheelspin - I can control the slide no problem but I lose loads of time

 

[Tidgney]

Any tips for maintaining traction out of corners? I'm using a pad, and I can stay with the faster ghosts on the way into corners and on the apex, but if I try and match their acceleration out I just seem to get wheelspin - I can control the slide no problem but I lose loads of time

That's the hardest part, you could try using Active steering: Mild, that certainly helps (Doesn't suit my style on a pad). Otherwise your best trying to maintain 1/2 - 3/4 throttle out before you know the car is straight (Or before it hits a hill or bump which causes the slide). Or you could try dabbing on and off full throttle, this helps to stop sliding. Thats the only advice I can give their I'm afraid, other than knowing where your car will slide and planning in advance for it :S. Sorry I'm not much help there but thats all I can offer in regards to wheel spin :S.

 

[MichaelJP]

Thanks Tidgney - you're right in that it's definitely the hardest part. I've got quite a bit of real world track experience (including quite a few laps in a 370Z!) and you get so much more feedback on grip and traction... ah well, keep practicing I guess

 

[Tidgney]

Thanks Tidgney - you're right in that it's definitely the hardest part. I've got quite a bit of real world track experience (including quite a few laps in a 370Z!) and you get so much more feedback on grip and traction... ah well, keep practicing I guess

Yes I totally agree there , it's also an advantage to having a wheel, I will be switching back once I get back to Uni to my wheel (Plus you have to use a Wheel in the next round so better get practicing hadn't I ). Keep at it though I mean I notice little movements in the speedo which help, and the sound of the tyres of course. But keep at it you'll get there! .

 

[VTi-DOHC]

Im using a G25 and set by best time with power steering on in the wheel settings? should I be playing with power steering off? With power steering on I can turn in very well in med-high speed corners, whilst my exit speed from low speed corners is poor due to oversteer when i apply the throttle, with power steering off the opposite happens, my low speed corners and exits are very good but the car wont turn in with out scrubbing off too much speed in the med-high speed corners? Help!

 

[Tidgney]

Im using a G25 and set by best time with power steering on in the wheel settings? should I be playing with power steering off? With power steering on I can turn in very well in med-high speed corners, whilst my exit speed from low speed corners is poor due to oversteer when i apply the throttle, with power steering off the opposite happens, my low speed corners and exits are very good but the car wont turn in with out scrubbing off too much speed in the med-high speed corners? Help!

I'm a bit unsure myself with wheel settings as I have to play around with my own settings and still unsure of the best. But if your struggling with oversteer out of the exit, you could try active steering in the driving options. I've noticed alot of the top runners use it, and it helps on a pad if people do struggle with oversteer. But I'm not really the best person to answer hopefully somebody can help you with this!

 

[nMd_pRo]

If you can tell me this, cause you don't have to, how do you make the corner right before the 3rd sector time split and the left to a small straight(hope i got the description understandable)?

 

[Tidgney]

If you can tell me this, cause you don't have to, how do you make the corner right before the 3rd sector time split and the left to a small straight(hope i got the description understandable)?

The braking distance I judge at the time but your aiming for 91 mph around the corner while constantly coming back on the inside, 91 is the limit for that but if you can achieve 87 and maintain a constant inside line, even going on the grass if needs be you then have a much straighter corner for the left. I turn in on the left just after the right hander goes straight, and aim for an 80mph apex speed now. Hope this helps in anyway :S. (Pretty much do it as eddskill does).

 

[nMd_pRo]

Thanks that was just what i was looking for.
Thanks again.

 

[Pippo46]

I have a question...with active steering set on high and the sensibility of the analog set to 5/6, can I do 2.18.000/2.17.8xx? Till now I have the first time with ds3 in Italy (2.18.279), but I'm on 34* position. Any suggestion? I really think that the last 2 sectors are the hardest to do with ds3; I loose almost 0,500 seconds...damn! =)

 

[Tidgney]

Active steering on strong is really hard on a pad I found. I feel you'll loose alot of time. Mild you can get away with as when I was practicing with it I got a 17.4 with that. Im unsure whether thats to much of an assist on a Pad to get that time. Your also best having sensitivity on 7 as you'll be able to counter over steer a bit quicker (Will require you getting used to it though ). Last sectors are the hardest for everything, just requires so much precision that you can nail a lap with mediocre sectors 1/2 and perfect 3 (My 17.119 lap example).

 

[Pippo46]

Thanks mate! I'm gonna try this setting...hope will be better =)

 

[Tidgney]

For anyone looking for more help, im running a GT academy afternoon this Saturday at 2pm (GMT), I'll post the room number on the day or alternatively add GTLeague_Tidgney but say why please (I get random additions every now and then). I'll try help some of you out, all you need is the Fairlady Z (Z34) '08 and Comfort medium tyres.

 

[Tidgney]

For Anyone interested my fastest Pad lap has now been uploaded if anyone wants to look for any additional help with lines, brake/acceleration points.

 

[Pippo46]

Thanks for uploading this video. I fannally break the wall of 2.18...I managed 2.17.799. But is not enough...I want to do 2.17.4xx or 2.17.2xx. I know that it's very hard. From your last vid I see that I can do different lines, brake and acceleration points. So today I want to improve my time. Thanks again mate for the tips.

 

[Tidgney]

Hey,

No problem what so ever ! Keep at it you can only ever keep improving! .

 

[nMd_pRo]

I don't know how you can do such a time like this, i'm struggling a bit to get under 2:18, and you do a 2:16:9xx, holy freaking hell, i don't know what time you would make if you had a nice wheel, congratulations.

 

[Tidgney]

hehe nMd_pRo I could get a .6 I think with a pad but I have a wheel, and with some advice I've switched to it, Just need to get up to speed with it! With Active steering I've had a 17.3 with it, but without its just a 17.7 but I think thats just a lack of experience with the wheel, but who knows.

Hopefully I can offer some advice towards wheel players once I'm fully up and running with it .

 

[alexpez]

One other thing to mention is to switch on "gaming mode" or equivalent on your TV if you have one. Nothing will kill your ability to post a quick time more than being shown the game world a few frames behind where it is. Slides become harder to control, you'll be late on the brakes in, late on the gas out, missing apexes etc.

I think my math is correct here, so here goes: At 150mph you cover 67 meters in a second. Say your screen is adding 3 frames of latency to its output as it processes and tidies up the image, you will cover roughly 3.35m in the time between the computer calculating where you are and your TV showing you. You then respond to something that happened 3.35 meters ago and wait 3 frames for the computer to show you what you've done. Its very easy to wind up with what amounts to pilot induced oscillation, where the display of your inputs lags behind the actual input, and you end up over correcting constantly.

TV manufacturers don't list display lag/output/input lag (call it what you will), but it varies hugely between different screens. I think a database of tv's used by the top 50 or so guys might be helpful in the future when it comes to others buying tvs for the job of playing games. (is that already on this forum? might be cool to sticky a list of everyones tvs)

Ill throw this out there to start : Panasonic ae-500. long in the tooth.

Tidgney (nice time btw), what tv are you using?

 

[Tidgney]

Hey ,

Cheers first of all ! Thats an interesting thought actually I must admit I have noticed differences actually between 2 televisions (Because I've played on 2 different televisions during the academy).

My University television (Current fastest time on): Is quite old now 5 years old actually or even 5 and a half. Has no sharpness change (Most annoying thing ever) and generally is alright but ye. It's a UMC 22" LCD (Not sure of exact name).

My Home television: Is much newer bought last year it's also 22", but I must say I did feel faster on that. I didn't have it on gaming mode however (I know that mode does exist has several, inc movie and 2 others I think). But even so Just the sharpness did help me identify zones better. (So as a tip I would definitely play around with sharpness if you have it!).

I would say though that in my honest opinion it doesn't matter to much of the television for the same reason I used with the X2010 challenge pre-patch (Pad Lag I Liked to call it). You can adapt to the circumstance and learn the circumstance again and again. Although I have to say it's a very interesting thought about televisions plus Im due a nice big television for a change! .