Help! Wheelspin problems!!!

[speedygonzalez1]

Im trying to get rid of all the wheelspin on my cars. They are tuned really well but when it comes to wheelspin there terrible. I checked some previous threads and all i see is "turn on traction control or srf." I dont want to have to do that so could someone please tell if i need to change my gearing or my lsd or my suspension.

 

[Pluxtheduck]

post the tune up and let's see what is up

 

[speedygonzalez1]

post the tune up and let's see what is up

Can you tell me what you normally do to get less wheelspin?

 

[Pluxtheduck]

I need to see the tune to know what you are doing

 

[speedygonzalez1]

i wont be able to until tonight

 

[speedygonzalez1]

I need to see the tune to know what you are doing

wont be able to until tonight

 

[DigitalBaka]

LSD accel is a good place to start. If your outside is spinning lower it, if inside, increase it. You generally want to keep it as high as you can without shredding either side excessively.

 

[AuToNoMy]

You need to increase the spring rate cos the stiffer the suspension the more the tyre/wheel will be pushed down onto the Tarmac

 

[speedygonzalez1]

LSD accel is a good place to start. If your outside is spinning lower it, if inside, increase it. You generally want to keep it as high as you can without shredding either side excessively.

thanks i will try it and im also trying to fix my zr1 when i drag with it, it has alot of wheelspin and it takes forever to get going. Then once it takes off it gets a huge burnout and it puts me so far behind

 

[ryzno]

thanks i will try it and im also trying to fix my zr1 when i drag with it, it has alot of wheelspin and it takes forever to get going. Then once it takes off it gets a huge burnout and it puts me so far behind

We are already trying to help you in the Drag Race forum, no need for multiple threads.
Edit just realized you got 2 more in the Tuning Forum SMH.

 

[speedygonzalez1]

You need to increase the spring rate cos the stiffer the suspension the more the tyre/wheel will be pushed down onto the Tarmac

thanks i'll try it.

 

[speedygonzalez1]

what about the toe?

 

[lbpomg95]

It depends what you're tuning for. I you want better grip off the line in a quarter mile, adding weight over the driven wheels helps, having the car fully lowered at the front and raised at the back also helps. Positive toe increases traction and somewhat sacrifices speed.

If you're circuit tuning then there isn't much I can suggest with a 900bhp Vette to stop it wheelspinning other than learning to control the throttle really well.

 

[iamsupernasty]

You should improve your talent. Best cure for wheelspin.

 

[speedygonzalez1]

It depends what you're tuning for. I you want better grip off the line in a quarter mile, adding weight over the driven wheels helps, having the car fully lowered at the front and raised at the back also helps. Positive toe increases traction and somewhat sacrifices speed.

If you're circuit tuning then there isn't much I can suggest with a 900bhp Vette to stop it wheelspinning other than learning to control the throttle really well.

thanks i will play with it and see what happens

 

[iamsupernasty]

Some of the input in this thread is laughable.

increasing the spring rate will only make the wheelspin worse.

a softer rear spring will allow more weight to transfer to the rear which increases traction.

 

[AuToNoMy]

Some of the input in this thread is laughable.

increasing the spring rate will only make the wheelspin worse.

a softer rear spring will allow more weight to transfer to the rear which increases traction.

No it won't ???

 

[iamsupernasty]

Was that a question or a dispute of my point?

Do you think drag racing cars do wheelies because they have ultra stiff rear springs?

It's important to find a balance between spring rate and shock rebound to make sure that you keep the weight on the rear as long as possible.

An ultra stiff spring is not the solution.

 

[AuToNoMy]

Was that a question or a dispute of my point?

Do you think drag racing cars do wheelies because they have ultra stiff rear springs?

It's important to find a balance between spring rate and shock rebound to make sure that you keep the weight on the rear as long as possible.

An ultra stiff spring is not the solution.

That's all very fine and dandy but the guy on here don't wanna do wheelies and dragsters wheel spin which he doesn't want to do either its what were trying to solve ?? So stiffen the suspension to push the wheel down into the ground and it will reduce friction

 

[iamsupernasty]

That's all very fine and dandy but the guy on here don't wanna do wheelies and dragsters wheel spin which he doesn't want to do either its what were trying to solve ?? So stiffen the suspension to push the wheel down into the ground and it will reduce friction

What!?!?

Now reducing friction will increase traction?!?!

I give up.

Your advice is wrong. Period.

 

[AuToNoMy]

What!?!?

Now reducing friction will increase traction?!?!

I give up.

Your advice is wrong. Period.

Ok try goggling it then if am so wrong ???

 

[iamsupernasty]

You want me to put goggles on and re read your sentence? That doesn't even make sense....

 

[iamsupernasty]

The point here is that you need to adjust spring rates and shock rebounds to work in paralel.

On a lightweight Corvette, the springs are already stiff enough. Its more important in this instance to adjust rebound rates.

If this game properly modeled a drag racing slick and the car was overly compressing then I would agree you could test a stiffer spring.

The fact is though that it does not, and arbitrarily making the rear stiffer is not the solution to the ops problem

 

[Bopop4]

Some of the input in this thread is laughable.

increasing the spring rate will only make the wheelspin worse.

a softer rear spring will allow more weight to transfer to the rear which increases traction.

This is correct.

You need to increase the spring rate cos the stiffer the suspension the more the tyre/wheel will be pushed down onto the Tarmac

This is incorrect.



The more weight on the tire, the more grip. Softer rear springs will let the back of the car squat down under acceleration, putting more weight on the tire and increasing grip.

Saying otherwise is just wrong, and you don't have to look it up because it is one of the first things that you learn in terms of suspension tuning.


To the OP, it also depends on the car and state of tune.
A 700hp Viper is going to have problems getting off of the corners, no matter what.

What you can do to help is to get as much weight to the back as you can.
More front rebound will transfer grip to the back under acceleration without compromising entry too much.
Soften rear springs and a lower rear bound can also help. Stronger LSD accel can also decrease wheelspin.

 

[DoriftoDoriDori]

throttle control anyone? haha maybe try not going pedal to the metal until you hit corner exit.