High Def Option

[Fangio]

Greetings All More Skilled Than I,
Whilst playing GT4 last night, I took note of the vdeo options while racing in the MG on meke race. When I was given the option of selecting high def, my LCD HD TV showed "No Signal". Am I incorrect in asuming Hi Def is for Hi Def equipment. I would very much enjoy utilizing my TV to it's fullest if possible. Your suggestions would be appreciated,
Gratefully
Fangio

 

[Aquendwato]

Are you using Hi-Def (component) cables?

 

[opelgt1969]

First off are you on a PS3 or PS2. then second how is your console hooked up to your TV. You need to have either component or HDMI cables hooked up. I don't think you can get 1080i with the (yellow) video cable.

 

[SimRaceDriver]

More then likely you're not using the proper cables...If memory serves me correctly, what you would need to do is to be using "component cables" in order to 'get the signal', as more then likely you're using the standard Red/White/Yellow cables and/or a S-Video cable as well.

The proper cables, as are the ones I use on my LCD TV, are these:


However, since I take advantage of the PS2's Dolby Digital® and DTS® capabilities, I should have gone with this version instead:

as for now, I run a separate optical cable from my PS2 over to my receiver, thereby not taking advantage of the extra two (2) hookups on my existing MosterCable Component Cables.

 

[AOS-]

Eh, how much is the PS2/3 to HDMI cable cost?

 

[Aquendwato]

A lot. The component cables are a much cheaper option for the same result.

 

[wfooshee]

No HDMI on PS2, just PS3.

Fangio, as stated before, you need to get the Component cable for your PS2 or 3. No HD on anything less. I think you'll like the difference once you get there, though!

 

[BobK]

I think you'll like the difference once you get there, though!

Or maybe not I have a couple games in progress, some set to 1080i and some left default, and to be honest I really can't tell the difference when I switch cards.

 

[Fangio]

Greetings All Ye Tech Savvy Speedsters,
Forsooth! The wealth of information is heartenig, albeit overwhelming! First my thanks to all who responded, secondly, I am of the group that grew up with tube T.V. black and white no less, so thine patience is appreciated.
My current PS2 is connected to the TV directly through the original equipment red yellow, and white cables. They are connected to the side of the TV into component ports that the techies at LG told me to use.
If I purchase the cables pictured in the post do I utilize the same connections?
Again, many thanks,
Fangio

 

[opelgt1969]

No you should have HD inputs on the back of your TV that would be the for HD they will be Red Green and Blue inputs you should also have a set of audio inputs right beside these. On yout TV go to channel 2 then go down you should have something like video 1 & 2 these are the channels for HD inputs same as for a DVD player.

 

[wfooshee]

Or maybe not I have a couple games in progress, some set to 1080i and some left default, and to be honest I really can't tell the difference when I switch cards.

The video setting is not part of a game save. GT4 always starts up in 480i standard TV, and if you want HD, you have to pick it in the options. If you resume a game you were playing in 1080i, but don't set the game to 1080i when you resume, then you're playing in 480i. Might I suggest that perhaps that's the reason you can't tell the difference?

Likewise, if you resume a game you've been playing in 480i (maybe because you've played in the basement on a POS TV) all you have to do is set it to 1080i and you're playing the same game in HD.

I can certainly see a difference on my set.

To Fangio: the yellow composite cable that comes with the PS2 is not capable of carrying a 1080i picture. Nor is the S-video cable set that you can buy optionally. Although S-video generally yields a better picture, it's still standard TV.

The component (not to be confused with composite) cable will have red, blue, and green video cables, in addition to the red and white audio cables, five in all. Once you have that cable (doesn't come with the console, gotta go buy one) you select the right input on your set (it'll be a different video in than you're on with the yellow cable), then find your game's options screen and select 1080i. You have to do that every time you start the game - it's not remembered by the game. As for selecting the input, it may not be by channel selection as suggested in the above post. Most sets aren't. Some go down through the channels and then vid1, vid2, etc, but others use a separate selection for non-tuner video inputs.

 

[land sea air]

on a side note, the sony component cables that I bought for my ps3 will also work with a ps2, and are actually cheaper than some of the aftermarket cables, they are also easy to find since the ps3 is the hot item right now and those are the most common cables for that system.
On a side side note, I didn't know that GT4 didn't save the setting for resolution and I thought it had looked better when I first tried it in HD. recently it had looked rather crappy and I attributed it to playing so many high def games and the fact that it was being played on a ps3

 

[a6m5]

First thing I do on GT4 is to change it back to 1080i. If you still don't notice the difference, you might need a new TV, or new optometrist.

On the PS2/PSTwo component cables, I use the aftermarket one that has the plug for both PS2 and Xbox. I think it was about $25 - $35, but the quality is kind of shoddy. Part that connects to the PS2 is loose, so if I don't have it positioned just right, picture goes crazy.

 

[Fangio]

Greetings from The technically Challenged,
The reason I now have an LCDHDTV XYZABC...(Oh so many letters!) is that my trusty Panasonic 27' died ingloriously, and I was forced into the Evil Empire known as the Electronics Store. I was like a lamb before slaughter. I now possess more cabling than the telephone company, and will travel to my local Radio Shack for the appropriate PS2 HD cables. I will then enlist the aid of my team manager, the next door neighbor's 14 year old and with all your stellar advice should be "defin'" tonight! If not, the optometrist is the next stop.
Gratefully Yours
Fangio

 

[AMG.]

....then find your game's options screen and select 1080i......

@ wfooshee, would you mind explaining to me (a bit of a newb in this area too) where to find this option. Ive got the Monstercables as listed in above posts and hooked them up in the right order but I have yet to find the 1080i option in the game.

Thx for your efforts.👍

AMG.

 

[opelgt1969]

Go to options menue then "screen" scroll down to last option click select 1080i then if your TV is set right your screen should go to black and white lines for a second or so then a screen will pop up and ask if you want to keep this setting click Yes. You have to do this each time you start the game.You also need to set the PS3 screen up also if thats what your using this is in the PS3 guide.

 

[wfooshee]

NA NTSC only. Not in other versions.

 

[Red_Line]

I'm using my GT4 in a ps3...hooked up to an HD LCD with HDMI cables and just look awful.

Is this because I need component?

 

[Raitziger]

PAL GT4 does not have HD option.(just reminder how ps disses eu)

 

[DanteSS3]

NA NTSC only. Not in other versions.

Thats why i could never find it

Playing on the PS3, i want High def!

 

[MasterGT]

I'm using my GT4 in a ps3...hooked up to an HD LCD with HDMI cables and just look awful.

Is this because I need component?

(edit)
You are using HDMI, so the cable shouldn't be the problem.

Cheers,

 

[wfooshee]

I'm using my GT4 in a ps3...hooked up to an HD LCD with HDMI cables and just look awful.

Is this because I need component?

You have to set 1080i in options every time you start the game. However, not having a PS3, I don't know if it outputs PS2 games properly on HDMI.

 

[ozirules]

Okay just got component cables to hook my PAL Ver7 up to my Hd TV & after resetting the PS2 to comp cables option was very pleased with the results , every thing much sharper & cost under $20 from EBay

 

[Devedander]

BTW for those looking for "PS3 HDMI" cables, don't be fooled, HDMI cables are standard and there is nothing special needed for the PS3. Head to monoprice.com if you are in the states, that's where I get all my cables (not affiliated).

One thing not to overlook is to change dashboard settings to support 16:9 screens and component cable HD output.
BTW ozi I thought PAL didn't support 1080i?

 

[ozirules]

BTW ozi I thought PAL didn't support 1080i?[/QUOTE]

I really don't know if I am getting 1080i , all I know is when I fitted the comp cables I get an enhanced playback & the difference is the same as I get when I watch a TV program in analog & switch to digital .I am very happy with the results I got & I would recommend any PAL user to try them . PS there is no settings in options in the game as the NTSC seems to have. 👍 👍

 

[Digital-Nitrate]

BTW ozi I thought PAL didn't support 1080i?

PAL is just a video format. Displays can support many different formats. For instance, my projector and RPTV supports both NTSC (480i), PAL (576i), as well as several other video formats, including 720p HD, 1080i HD, and 1080p HD.

I really don't know if I am getting 1080i

If you tell me the make and model of your display I'll be happy to let you know what video formats it supports and its native resolution.

all I know is when I fitted the comp cables I get an enhanced playback & the difference is the same as I get when I watch a TV program in analog & switch to digital .

Even without any difference in the resolution, going from composite to S-video to component/VGA, to DVI/HDMI you will see improved results. Although it is strongly recommended that you recalibrate the display's video controls (brightness, contrast, color, and tint) as each display often does not have the right settings for each type of video input.

I have too often read about someone complaining that the image quality got worse when they switched from composite to component, or component to HDMI, only to find out that it was because they had not recalibrated the display after making the switch. Once done they would always respond back with favorable results.

 

[ozirules]

If you tell me the make and model of your display I'll be happy to let you know what video formats it supports and its native resolution.

It's an LG 42LCdr LCD with Hd tuner & 250Gig H/D probably 1080P

 

[Digital-Nitrate]

It's an LG 42LCdr LCD with Hd tuner & 250Gig H/D probably 1080P

It is actually a "720p" display, not 1080p.

To be more specific, it has a native resolution of 1366x768 which is a very common resolution for "720p" LCD displays, as that is a very common resolution for PC GPUs.

Here are its critical specifications:

• Resolution______: 1366x768
• Brightness______: 500cd/m²
• Contrast Ratio__: 1600:1
• Color Processing: 14 Bit (4.3 Trillion Colours)
• Video Processor_: LG XD Engine w/Cinema 3:2 Mode
• Video Features__: Enhanced Noise Reduction, 3D Digital Comb Filter, DLTI/DCTI
• Response Time___: 8ms (GTG) = gray to gray
• View Angle______: 178°
• Digital Inputs__: DVIx1, HDMIx2 v1.2a

It will accept the following video formats: 480i(NTSC)/576i(PAL)/480p/576p/720p/1080i

Keep in mind, although it accepts 1080i, because it is a "720p" display, if it is fed a 1080i signal it will not only have to deinterlace the signal, but it will also have to scale it down to 1366x768. So not only will you not be able to see 1080i video in its native resolution, but because there is a very good chance that this set does not properly deinterlace 1080i signals, as most do not, you could be losing an additional 50% of the vertical resolution.

For these reasons, you'll most likely get the best results by only feeding the display 720p signals. So for instance, if you had a PS3, I would strongly recommend that you manually adjust the video output settings from 1080i to 720p. This will not only avoid any problems with deinterlacing artifacts and no additional loss of vertical resolution, but will result in a slightly more stable image, with no loss in resolution.

This is a fine choice in displays, and I hope this info helps you get the most enjoyment out of it. 👍

 

[wfooshee]

BTW ozi I thought PAL didn't support 1080i?

PAL is just a video format. Displays can support many different formats. For instance, my projector and RPTV supports both NTSC (480i), PAL (576i), as well as several other video formats, including 720p HD, 1080i HD, and 1080p HD.

To avoid reader confusion, Devedander was pointing out that the PAL version of the game doesn't have a 1080i display option, not that the PAL TV system doesn't support 1080i.

 

[Digital-Nitrate]

To avoid reader confusion, Devedander was pointing out that the PAL version of the game doesn't have a 1080i display option, not that the PAL TV system doesn't support 1080i.

Ahhhh. Gotcha. That makes a lot more sense.

That's odd that the PAL version of GT4 doesn't offer 1080i output. Did PD ever explain why this was the case?