Honda S2000 Type V 2000 - Tuning

[HSV92]

Hi, I have bought a Honda S2000 Type V 2000 as my first car and have completed the sunday cup, but cant win the 2nd and 3rd races on the spyder race thingy on the beginners events. Can anyone help me to tune my car to enable me to win these? (oh, btw, ive read the tuning guids and cant make any sense of them)

 

[Rykon Zero]

hhhmmmm, what is the problem? is the car too weak? or is it have oversteer or understeer? what modifications does it have?

 

[HSV92]

It's stock. It just isnt fast enough. Its ok at the cornering, but then its just not accelerating fast enough and not reaching high enough speed to get it past the others. Im usually against one of those vauxhall things (cant remember the name), but by the end of the race, its usually won by about 4-5 seconds.

 

[Rykon Zero]

give it some cheap power mods, like a sport exhaust or a sport chip, bring the hp up to atleast 300 hp, and you'll be fine. and if you have aids on, turn them off. you'll be even faster around the corners.

 

[HSV92]

cheers. will do. just as soon as the tv is free. . .

 

[Smallhorses]

A stock S2000 should be enough to decimate the Spider/Roadster fields.
I've won one of the races in a stock Mazda Miata for 200 A-spec points, and others have used the '54 Corvette with just an oil change.
Practise the tracks, learn the lines, and if necessary enter/exit the race until you find a lineup without the Opel/Vauxhall Speedster in (or if it's there, make sure it starts in 5th place.)

Also beware of the Lotus Elise, Toyota MR2 GT-S '97 & Nissan 350Z Roadster.

The complete list of runners & riders for this event [HP in square brackets] is:

Nissan 350Z Roadster[282],
Toyota MR2 GT-S '97[244],
BMW Z4[228],
Alfa Romeo Spider 3.0i[216],
Toyota MR2 Spyder '99[200],
MG TF160[198],
Fiat Barchetta[198],
MGF '97[197],
Lotus Elise '00[198],
Mazda Miata 1800RS '00[197],
Mazda Miata SR-Lim '97[195],
Opel Speedster[195],
Peugeot 206cc[194],
Mercedes SLK230[192]

Enter / Exit the event before starting the race to try and get a lineup with 2 of the FF cars (Fiat, Alfa, Peugeot) at the front of the grid. This'll help hold up the others, and allow your 246HP S2000 to keep up easily.

give it some cheap power mods, like a sport exhaust or a sport chip, bring the hp up to atleast 300 hp, and you'll be fine. and if you have aids on, turn them off. you'll be even faster around the corners.

Noooooo! Try and resist the temptation to tune your way out of trouble this early on by adding HP upgrades or nitrous. It'll only get harder and harder as you get further into the game taking this approach. Take some time now while the going is easy to memorise the tracks and lines, and it'll stand you in good stead for driving the more powerful cars later on!
Do turn the aids off or at the very least down to minimum settings, ASM especially will cost you tonnes of time in the bends!
Hope that helps.

 

[HSV92]

thanks - lucky you posted that before the tv was free =P lo

but, one question, i always start in 5th place, how do i get to start further up?
Just got this game a fdew days ago you see lol.l

 

[HSV92]

oh, dw, i forgot there were 6 places

god im thick lol

 

[Smallhorses]

but, one question, i always start in 5th place, how do i get to start further up?
Just got this game a fdew days ago you see lol.l

You actually always start in 6th place.
In a single race series like this you can't start anywhere else.

In the championship events such as Professional Hall : World Compact Car Cup, you'll find there's a practice icon before you start the race. (Looks like a blue scoreboard with red/yellow digits on it) Practice = Qualifiying, run a faster lap than the AI cars and you'll start in 1st place. 👍

What I meant by having Opel Speedster start in 5th place is that if you enter the Spider/Roadster event, and, for example, the Speedster is starting in 1st place, you can exit the event before starting the race (use triangle button or green icon on the right.) Now enter the same event again. You'll get a different set of cars to race where, for example, the Speedster may start 3rd.
Do the same thing again and again until either the Speedster isn't even in the lineup or starts from 5th place. Beware of the other cars I mentioned too starting in Pole position, or they'll run away from you.

Great practice early on is to try and at least get Silver medals for most of the licence tests rather than just bronzes. You'll earn extra prize cars for getting all silver (and another set for earning all golds) on the licence tests, and improve your driving skills considerably. 👍

Remember, you cannot win a race in 1 corner alone. It's impossible to pass all of the AI in 1 bend unless you're using some vastly overpowered monster-car! Get used to linking turns, creeping up on the AI 1 or 2 at a time through a series of bends. Resist the urge to knock them all off the track at the first turn too!

 

[BLITZ_69]

Try getting an oil change, sports chip, and another engine upgrade of your choice and you should be fine.

 

[Stevisiov]

Try getting an oil change, sports chip, and another engine upgrade of your choice and you should be fine.

Noooooooooooooooooo!

What small horses said, do the Liscence and learn to drive, you should be able to destroy your opponents with a honda S2000, tuning it will allow for bad driving.

that is all

 

[BLITZ_69]

Noooooooooooooooooo!

What small horses said, do the Liscence and learn to drive, you should be able to destroy your opponents with a honda S2000, tuning it will allow for bad driving.

that is all

Oh yeah, I guess that would be better, lessons are always a good thing, beside I guess if you cant drive that tune up wont help, they'll make it worse.

I forget, im just used to answer others problems as if they were my own.

 

[Stevisiov]

Oh yeah, I guess that would be better, lessons are always a good thing, beside I guess if you cant drive that tune up wont help, they'll make it worse.

I forget, im just used to answer others problems as if they were my own.

Got you

 

[Smallhorses]

Oh yeah, I guess that would be better, lessons are always a good thing, beside I guess if you cant drive that tune up wont help, they'll make it worse.

I forget, im just used to answer others problems as if they were my own.

It helps if you spend time here not just reading the thread title and original question, and then leaping in two-footed with an answer, but to read through some of the posts and answers that came before. Chances are if a thread has more than 4 or 5 posts, the question has already been answered, or advice offered. 👍

All you've done is add another post to a thread offering identical advice to the post 6 above yours!
Just because more than one person says it, doesn't make it right!

(Although in this case what you're saying will work, and is therefore not bad advice per se, it's just that by encouraging tuning early on to circumnavigate learning to drive properly it'll only inevitably lead another member to a "I can't win GTWC even with my Stage 4 turbo'd Minlota! What am I doing wrong?" type thread! 👎)

So I'm not having a pop at you, just asking that you read what's gone before and then decide whether what you're about to type is going to make an extra contribution to what's there already? 👍

 

[BLITZ_69]

It helps if you spend time here not just reading the thread title and original question, and then leaping in two-footed with an answer, but to read through some of the posts and answers that came before. Chances are if a thread has more than 4 or 5 posts, the question has already been answered, or advice offered. 👍

All you've done is add another post to a thread offering identical advice to the post 6 above yours!
Just because more than one person says it, doesn't make it right!

(Although in this case what you're saying will work, and is therefore not bad advice per se, it's just that by encouraging tuning early on to circumnavigate learning to drive properly it'll only inevitably lead another member to a "I can't win GTWC even with my Stage 4 turbo'd Minlota! What am I doing wrong?" type thread! 👎)

So I'm not having a pop at you, just asking that you read what's gone before and then decide whether what you're about to type is going to make an extra contribution to what's there already? 👍

Dude, will you ever give me a brake, I get nothing but criticism from you.

 

[Rykon Zero]

Now i feel stupid. i should have known not to use upgrades. and i already knew how to do a racing line, so now i just upgrade cars. i learned the racing line way back when i got need for speed hot pursuit 3. i was 4.

 

[Smallhorses]

Dude, will you ever give me a brake, I get nothing but criticism from you.

Did you read the bit in my last post that said I wasn't having a pop at you (and the guilty smiley)? I.E. Not criticising you personally. Where else have I criticised you? I'm curious, PM me if you wish, I'm really not trying to make life hard on you!

(Although in this case what you're saying will work, and is therefore not bad advice per se.....

^ Where's the criticism in that?

The advice applied to all members here, not just you.
We see it over and over again, new member arrives, posts answer to question in thread title on page 21 of a thread that has had the question answered 10 times on page 1, and 10 times per page thereafter purely because people don't take the time to read through the thread before posting.

[J/k]And sure I'll give you a brake, but you should know that only fitting one brake is dangerous, and you should really ask me for a set of 4, one for each corner!

If, however, a break is what you are after, then go ahead and take it, you're excused!!! [/J/k]

 

[Duke]

Now i feel stupid. i should have known not to use upgrades. and i already knew how to do a racing line, so now i just upgrade cars. i learned the racing line way back when i got need for speed hot pursuit 3. i was 4.

I've been driving real cars for 25+ years, and GT3/4 cars for 6 years. That's 250,000+ real life miles 40,000+ miles in GT games at least - and I don't think I "already know" everything there is to know about "how to do a racing line".
👎

 

[Stevisiov]

Now i feel stupid. i should have known not to use upgrades. and i already knew how to do a racing line, so now i just upgrade cars. i learned the racing line way back when i got need for speed hot pursuit 3. i was 4.

You learned your racing lines form need for speed

 

[Observer]

I've been driving real cars for 25+ years, and GT3/4 cars for 6 years. That's 250,000+ real life miles 40,000+ miles in GT games at least - and I don't think I "already know" everything there is to know about "how to do a racing line".
👎

Good point, its like a art which can be mastered and only perfected at certain glorious moments and only lasts for a few races. Not to mention that every car desires a certain line to be taken for best results so one can only learn the line if he never changes cars and master it only when he understands it, and when you do it almost feels like a endless jurney in trying all the lines to figure out the physics of it

 

[Alonsomania]

There is nothing more rewarding then pushing your car even more, to gain that crucial tenths of a second which earns you a victory.

Tuning the car only makes it boring, but that is just mine opinion...

 

[Stevisiov]

Good point, its like a art which can be mastered and only perfected at certain glorious moments and only lasts for a few races. Not to mention that every car desires a certain line to be taken for best results so one can only learn the line if he never changes cars and master it only when he understands it, and when you do it almost feels like a endless jurney in trying all the lines to figure out the physics of it

Bang on there, varies from corner to corner, car to car, driver to driver.

 

[Observer]

There is nothing more rewarding then pushing your car even more, to gain that crucial tenths of a second which earns you a victory.

Tuning the car only makes it boring, but that is just mine opinion...

I totaly agree I try to max out the cars before I tune them and even when I do its only to make them smoother not really faster I think about it 4 or 5 times before I mess with the weight or power of the engine but tune the suspention freely. But when I do fully tune the car it becomes a whole diffrent machine, some of my street cars with sports hard tires car match some mid-range (350-400bhp) race cars in lap times

 

[Rykon Zero]

I've been driving real cars for 25+ years, and GT3/4 cars for 6 years. That's 250,000+ real life miles 40,000+ miles in GT games at least - and I don't think I "already know" everything there is to know about "how to do a racing line".
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i never said i mastered the racing line. but i did understand the concept of how to go around a corner quickly, and i would watch f1 races, and saw how they drove, so i tried to drive that way.

 

[Scaff]

i never said i mastered the racing line. but i did understand the concept of how to go around a corner quickly, and i would watch f1 races, and saw how they drove, so i tried to drive that way.

While you did not specifically state that you had mastered the racing line (which in itself is a weird way to describe it) you certainly did imply that it was something you had no further need for.....

and i already knew how to do a racing line, so now i just upgrade cars. i learned the racing line way back when i got need for speed hot pursuit 3. i was 4.

...however the description is a little strange again. How exactly do you 'do a racing line' and you now just upgrade cars!!!!

More than a little odd in regard to describing the concept of a racing line, particularly as it will vary from track to track, and to a lesser degree vary from car to car on the same track. Correctly applied (in the real world or GT4) you should not need overkill upgrades to win, and even when you upgrade cars you still need to utilise the racing line.

I also have to recoil in horror slightly when all people jump to for a win is power upgrades; FC suspension and a decent set-up can knock seconds off a lap-time without effecting A-spec points and teach you a damn sight more about the car and track that throwing power mods at a car ever will.


Regards

Scaff

 

[BLITZ_69]

[J/k]And sure I'll give you a brake, but you should know that only fitting one brake is dangerous, and you should really ask me for a set of 4, one for each corner!

If, however, a break is what you are after, then go ahead and take it, you're excused!!! [/J/k]

Nice:tup:

 

[HSV92]

Thanks for the comments. just to let you know, i took smallhorses advice and didnt do any tuning/upgrading to my car and managed to get gold in all three races

 

[Stevisiov]

Thanks for the comments. just to let you know, i took smallhorses advice and didnt do any tuning/upgrading to my car and managed to get gold in all three races

Thats how you do it,👍

I have just won a race in the JGTC event in the japanese, beating the Motul Pitwork Z, with my clio cup car. Fully modded of course but still way inferior. The car devours tyres quicker than opponents, has less power, same weight, far less downforce, higher center of gravity etc. It is far more satisfying winning a race in this manor, than getting a better car then making it even better. Its stupid though, I have had far harder 200A-spec point races, what did I get? 156. Still I would do it again, it was great fun.

 

[Smallhorses]

Thanks for the comments. just to let you know, i took smallhorses advice and didnt do any tuning/upgrading to my car and managed to get gold in all three races

Perfect! Doesn't it feel better to win this way, and didn't you learn more about the game, and driving than if you'd gone all out for an NA3 tune and obliterated the competition by blasting by on every straight but losing it on every bend? 👍
By learning these techniques early on, you won't come unstuck when you come to harder/faster races later on, and will resist the temptation to solve every problem with a Stage 4 turbo!

 

[Rykon Zero]

im sorry. i have a horrible way with words. that is someday going to get me banned.