How can I help this guy out?

[Justskate11]

My good friend bought himself a Logitech Driving Force GT after playing around with my G27 one weekend he hung out with me. We both love drifting but he just can't do it. It sounds mean but I don't have anymore hope, he tries but then he gets really frustrated and starts blaming the game, the car, or his wheel for his mistakes. I film all of our drift sessions but he uses a DS3 and it looks really bad, very jerky and unnatural in the replay. I need a way to get him back into trying his wheel. He has a unstable platform he puts his wheel on, but he recently got a desk but he wont mount it on there cause he has given up. I love driving with him but he looks sloppy with a controller. Please help.

 

[KROKrew]

Have him try a couple diff FR cars stock with wat ever tire works for him then just tell him to practice with it. I'm using a IS F '07 stock oil change with comfort softs and it handles amazing for me.

 

[LittleZippyUK]

Tell him to man up

I learnt in a fully tuned Nissan Silvia S13 Premium. With the right tune it's more stable than a horse...

 

[Downhill Dino]

I'd teach him to learn throttle control and ways to counter steer at the right moment.

 

[Stavingo]

Oh, and try and teach him how to avoid snapbacks.

 

[xGuNzABLaZiNx]

You can't just hop on the wheel and expect to be Keiichi Tsuchiya, It takes time.

 

[Justskate11]

Oh, and try and teach him how to avoid snapbacks.

Yeah I've just got that down pat.

Thanks to all of you, this is like my favorite forum, the people are so nice.

 

[GODfreyGT5]

Get him on a Stock RX-7 FC with a 5,30,30 Diff.

 

[Stavingo]

Are you running Comfort tyres as well?

 

[Hephaestus]

I got a DFGT too and needed some hours to learn how to drift with it. I never used a G27 but I heard it is easier on that (less FBB, more smooth and fast).

However, drifting with a DFGT is perfectly possible, the best advice, after the ones on how to drift (when to brake, accelerate etc.), is to anticipate the steering. For example when starting a drift, the wheel will rotate in the right direction, but not fast enough, he has to spin it more, until he can manage the car. And when exiting the drift, he must turn the wheel to straighten the wheels far before he thinks the car has finished drifting. This was the key for me.

 

[MyFC]

On Xmas day I was embarrassingly terrible with the wheel even on tsukuba with any 3 comfort tires; nothing worked.
I knew my cars used to work, and the wheel obviously for everyone else, so I knew it was me.

I was frustrated, but I wanted to play with my new toy.
Instead of grinding out the practice hours like it was school or work, I would just drive the Nurb in my fav cars on sports hard and enjoy my holidays.

I think just having the wheel in your hands and steering the car around might be a good place to start building a foundation.
Once I was getting the hang of it I decided to go back to the comfort tires. I went to Fuji and TopGear and used the open paved areas as a skid pan.

I tried everything you see on youtube for real cars :

1. drive around, swerve like a maniac and try to spin out a lot.
lose control with the ebrake
lose control with the foot brake
lose control with weight transfer
lose control in a controlled manner however you like

Drive up and down the runway punching the gas and swerving and sliding, pretend you stole your Ex's car.

2. from a stop, turn the wheel all the way and floor it - try to make nice circles as best you can with only the gas.
3. from a stop, turn the wheel all the way and floor it - try to make nice circles as best you can with only wheel
4. try to make nice circles as best you can using wheel and gas. big circles. small circles. figure 8 ?

5. if you aren't satisfied with your progress, vent some frustration on the AI and do a couple races on Sports tires and show them who's boss. Drive super aggressive, enter corners too quickly and use clutch kick + power over whenever you understeer.
Then go back and practice the circles a bit more.

6. Tsukuba. If you can do circles, and drive in a straight line, tsukuba should be a snap (except for some reason it isn't, when you are starting out) Unfortunately it can be extremely unmotivating to still not have your driving where it was with ds3. At this point I think the only thing left to do is to actually grind out hours of practice the same way you do homework. If you cant drift at full lock + full throttle on tsukuba with CH I don't think there's anything to worry about. Try to beat your best time over and over using CM and I'm very sure that if you check how your CH drift is every 20 laps or so of CM time trial, you should see some improvement each time

Anyway, I'm not a pro or anything but this is just what I did to get started. It's all about having fun, just need to get down some basics to get to the point where you can really enjoy the wheel I guess.

 

[kidovey]

Good post MyFc. Some useful information for people learning with a wheel. Thanks.

 

[swampdude]

To help this guy out, I would encourage him to race and drift at the same time. go into any race that uses street vehicles and tell him in the corners to try and enduce a drift. it helps you become a better drifter while at high speed. It worked for me.

 

[Darkrage1138]

To help this guy out, I would encourage him to race and drift at the same time. go into any race that uses street vehicles and tell him in the corners to try and enduce a drift. it helps you become a better drifter while at high speed. It worked for me.

This is the answer. also make him use a heavy and hard to control car so when he masters it light and easy becomes light and pointlessly easy

 

[DDAAVVIIDD82]

When I got started on a wheel, I actually found things to work more to my advantage by holding the wheel on the inside bottom (6 o'clock) with just one hand. My first instinct was to correct, but somehow holding it in that way helped to subdue that urge.