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How Do I Get My Mach 1 To Wheelie?
- Thread starter ENTERSANDMAN13
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Use the throttle
veyron1001
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Dont forget the nawwwwwwwwwwwwwwwzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz. Btw this isnt a drag racing game and wheelies are like dub rims.
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- artic_zap
Lifting the front end is the slowest way to accelerate, even in real life. I can't believe people are still obsessed with this.
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- QwietStorm03
That's not necessarily true. In drag racing you want weight transfer on a rear wheel drive car. Weight transfer turns into a wheelstand from time to time. It is fine for the car to pull a small wheelstand (less than 1 foot) because it's transferring weight and getting optimum traction. Too high and you'll lose time, no wheelstand and you're not leaving at your full potential.
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- Kryptonite158
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- artic_zap
Ideal weight transfer is the front left wheel only about 2 inches off the ground. Not to mention a properly setup rear drag suspension will lift the back of the car, thus planting the rear tires. It's all physics.
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- QwietStorm03
Please re-read what you typed because it makes absolutely no sense. You contradict yourself in the same sentence..."a properly setup rear drag suspension will lift the back of the car, thus planting the rear tires." 👎
Ford drag cars with a stock suspension and no cage like to hike the right front wheel a few inches off the ground, so to say ideal weight transfer is the front left wheel only is a pretty ignorant statement.
Rotary Junkie
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Honestly, in an ideal world you'll merely pull both fronts a tiiiiiiiiiiny bit. Any higher and you're wasting energy to pull the nose off the ground... Energy that won't be reclaimed when it comes back down.
As for a proper drag setup lifting the back of the car... Yup. A "good" drag suspension will very literally raise the rear of the car when torque is applied. And yes, it does work. Otherwise nobody would set the suspension geometry up to do it.
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- QwietStorm03
Agreed, you DO want to pull the nose up a bit just to get optimal weight transfer accompanied with good traction it will equal a pretty good launch.
Do you mean lift the rear as in raise the height of the suspension or do you mean when the power is applied the car will raise up?
Do you mean lift the rear as in raise the height of the suspension or do you mean when the power is applied the car will raise up?
Rotary Junkie
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When power is applied the car will raise up. Static lift of the rear is bad unless you bring the front up by an equal amount, mmmkay.
And yeah, once both fronts are off the ground, that's all the weight transfer you're going to get... Pull them further and it just looks pretty.
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- artic_zap
Every car I've seen will lift the left front over the right first.
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- Negrumir
Doesn't the lift of the rear under applied power come from the tires "getting larger" due to them spinning? Or am I totally not understanding what you're talking about?
...Which is what we want right now. Does anyone have a setup the OP is asking for? I would like to know as well.
I assume adding ballast to the rear might help... but the placement indicator is vague and I don't know if the weight can go past the rear wheels...
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- artic_zap
The rear axle and body separate when torque is applied. Think Newton's law.
For every action, there is an equal an opposite reaction.
If the body separates from the axle, the body is going in an upward motion away from the ground, so opposite force applied to the axle is downward into the ground.
Apply that concept with ideal weight transfer and you get some crazy grip.
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- Negrumir
So basically the tires are pulling the rear axle down, away from the body?
Because they're pulling themselves forward, the drive shaft and suspension act as a hinge. Since the Tires (and axle) can't go forward, down is the only direction they can go. Mix with the weight transfer as the body of the car is being pulled from a stand still and I guess that's sort of how it works.
I don't take physics or study any of this, I'm just pulling it out of my ass. Am I on the right track? And did I explain what I think is happening clear enough for someone to tell me I'm wrong? lol
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- artic_zap
So basically the tires are pulling the rear axle down, away from the body?
Because they're pulling themselves forward, the drive shaft and suspension act as a hinge. Since the Tires (and axle) can't go forward, down is the only direction they can go. Mix with the weight transfer as the body of the car is being pulled from a stand still and I guess that's sort of how it works.
I don't take physics or study any of this, I'm just pulling it out of my ass. Am I on the right track? And did I explain what I think is happening clear enough for someone to tell me I'm wrong? lol
Think of it more like the suspension is setup in such a way that as you apply force, the tires and axle try to drive under the car, thus causing the body to lift.
If you want to read about it on Google, search anti-squat.
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