How have any of you managed to get past the young drivers testing at the beginning of career?

[slthree]

I know I am not extremely skilled but I am at least average. Perhaps now, I’m being hit with a dose of reality that I’m not even average.

I cannot control the Lamborghini Super Trofeo.

For you who have already been through training, did you make any changes to the setup?

 

[Helmethead]

Are you using a wheel or controller? I found the Lamborghini to be a handful but was able to eventually find its groove. I don’t recall making any changes to it, i just used the aggressive setup and hoped for the best. I felt like you had to feather the throttle and brakes, similar to the Porsche IMO.

 

[SlowGrayAudi]

I did a 1:54.7xx if i recall in the young driver test.

 

[JustMac]

Monza is quite a difficult one, it's harsh (the chicanes and that slow curve at the end) and high speed (long straights); I've always been rubbish at it. That Lambo will try and head for the moon if it goes off one of the sausage curbs.

As with GT Sport, I think the best way to learn is watch the record-setting guys doing a lap and just note what they're doing differently.

 

[slthree]

I did a 1:54.7xx if i recall in the young driver test.

That is insane! Do you play online? You’d probably have a lot of podiums.

I barely got under 2

 

[SlowGrayAudi]

That is insane! Do you play online? You’d probably have a lot of podiums.

I barely got under 2

Thanks, i did one online race, qualified 2nd and won by 22sec.

 

[Stotty]

I know I am not extremely skilled but I am at least average. Perhaps now, I’m being hit with a dose of reality that I’m not even average.

I cannot control the Lamborghini Super Trofeo.

For you who have already been through training, did you make any changes to the setup?

Is this the 1st test in the dry?

I used the aggressive set up with rear wing at minimum (1’53.6), but I wouldn’t suggest using this if you’re struggling to break 2 minutes... Try the safe set up.

At Monza, your speed comes from getting as fast an exit from the chicanes as possible as you carry any extra speed all the way along the long straights.

You need to start by finding your brake markers for the 3 chicanes and for the final turn. Use something track side that you can easily spot each lap. From memory, I think I used the 150m board for the 1st and 2nd chicanes, the bridge for the 3rd chicane, and a trackside banner for the final turn. But you need something you can use that enables you to get the car slowed down enough to hit the apex comfortably, every lap... once you can do this you can start pushing a bit harder.

The 1st chicane is taken in 1st gear. Don’t try and cut the kerbs too much as this unsettled the car. Don’t try and carry too much speed in the middle part... Focus on your exit from the 2nd part.

In the 2nd chicane, I use 1st gear entry, 2nd gear exit... again, focus on your exit, not on trying to carry a lot of mid corner speed.

Lesmo 1 is 3rd gear... brake early enough that you hit the inside, and don’t try to get on the throttle too early as you’ll run wide on the exit and lose traction on the kerbs... Coast a bit (off the throttle) mid corner, then ease the throttle on. Let the car ‘flow through the corner’ in one smooth line.

Lesmo 2 is similar to 1, but a shorter corner. Brake early enough to hit the apex, and focus on a clean exit.

3rd chicane is 3rd gear entry for me, but you may be better in 2nd gear. You can take a lot of kerb on the entry... don’t push in the middle... stay tight to the right kerb to line up the exit. Be careful not to cut the left kerb on the exit too much as it can unsettle the car.

Final turn.... this is an early apex and early exit as the corner opens out. You want to hit the inside kerb, then get on the throttle and let the car run wide as the corner opens out.

Always stick to 1st principals of wide entry-hit the apex-wide exit. Be smooth with the controls. Build up your speed.

I don’t remember the car being unstable on the brakes, but if you’re struggling controlling the rear on the power just add 1 click more traction control.

You’ll need to learn as much as you can on the 1st test as the 2nd one is in the wet and is MUCH harder!

 

[slthree]

Is this the 1st test in the dry?

I used the aggressive set up with rear wing at minimum (1’53.6), but I wouldn’t suggest using this if you’re struggling to break 2 minutes... Try the safe set up.

At Monza, your speed comes from getting as fast an exit from the chicanes as possible as you carry any extra speed all the way along the long straights.

You need to start by finding your brake markers for the 3 chicanes and for the final turn. Use something track side that you can easily spot each lap. From memory, I think I used the 150m board for the 1st and 2nd chicanes, the bridge for the 3rd chicane, and a trackside banner for the final turn. But you need something you can use that enables you to get the car slowed down enough to hit the apex comfortably, every lap... once you can do this you can start pushing a bit harder.

The 1st chicane is taken in 1st gear. Don’t try and cut the kerbs too much as this unsettled the car. Don’t try and carry too much speed in the middle part... Focus on your exit from the 2nd part.

In the 2nd chicane, I use 1st gear entry, 2nd gear exit... again, focus on your exit, not on trying to carry a lot of mid corner speed.

Lesmo 1 is 3rd gear... brake early enough that you hit the inside, and don’t try to get on the throttle too early as you’ll run wide on the exit and lose traction on the kerbs... Coast a bit (off the throttle) mid corner, then ease the throttle on.

Lesmo 2 is similar to 1, but a shorter corner. Brake early enough to hit the apex, and focus on a clean exit.

3rd chicane is 3rd gear entry for me, but you may be better in 2nd gear. You can take a lot of kerb on the entry... don’t push in the middle... stay tight to the right kerb to line up the exit. Be careful not to cut the left kerb on the exit too much as it can unsettle the car.

Final turn.... this is an early apex and early exit as the corner opens out. You want to hit the inside kerb, then get on the throttle and let the car run wide as the corner opens out.

Always stick to 1st principals of wide entry-hit the apex-wide exit. Be smooth with the controls. Build up your speed.

I don’t remember the car being unstable on the brakes, but if you’re struggling controlling the rear on the power just add 1 click more traction control.

You’ll need to learn as much as you can on the 1st test as the 2nd one is in the wet and is MUCH harder!

This is terrific stuff. Thank you

I didn’t think I could make any changes since it was driver testing so I used whatever the game gave me and I think it was the safe set up

 

[Stotty]

You’ll be fine with the safe set up for now... focus on your brake markers, lines and exit speed.

If you start hitting consistent laps and you feel you can’t go faster, then you can make set up adjustments... but then you need to know what you’re adjusting!

 

[losbuttcheeks]

Since I've been playing online I've noticed that a lot people tend to brake late into a lot of the trickier/slow chicanes. I find it best to back it off just a little bit on the braking zone and that allows me to drive the car through the chicane instead of barreling in and holding on.

Also online with the damage I find that I might not push 100% unless I need to. If I'm in 4th with no pace of reaching 3rd I try to back off so I can keep it on the track and people tend to start spinning and crashing.

 

[half_sourly]

You’ll be fine with the safe set up for now... focus on your brake markers, lines and exit speed.

If you start hitting consistent laps and you feel you can’t go faster, then you can make set up adjustments... but then you need to know what you’re adjusting!

@slthree What @Stotty said, both here and in his lap guide earlier, should see you through. For the view of someone closer to your times (I think I did 1.57... in that dry test, but only after many attempts), maybe brake around 175m (so between the 200m and 150m boards) for the first chicane, just so you have more control going in and especially going out. You can always go slightly deeper as you get more comfortable. Second chicane 150m or just before is fine; the first kerb there is a bit more forgiving and it feels a bit more open to me. Rest per Stotty's advice. For the final chicane after the back straight I use the bridge as a marker, but brake just slightly before it; you can (carefully) trail into the first left, just be careful with inputs, as it is (for the likes of me) easy to oversteer. To play it safe, do all your braking in a straight line to get more control and a good exit.

I found I could use exactly the same brake markers in the wet, maybe because they are a bit conservative. Forget it is wet, just make more of an effort to stay clear of most kerbs, and you'll be fine. In the dry I was only about 0.5s in front of second; in the wet I was 3.5s in front.

And no adjustments to the car, other than the steering lock; 620 for the Lamborghini.

Finally, I may be wrong, but I don't think you have to be first in all of these sessions, so don't be put off by these crazy quick times others are doing. If you are not first, I think you just get a lower rating, fewer cars to choose from for the first part of your career, and an 'easy' setting.

 

[Stotty]

@slthree What @Stotty said, both here and in his lap guide earlier, should see you through. For the view of someone closer to your times (I think I did 1.57... in that dry test, but only after many attempts), maybe brake around 175m (so between the 200m and 150m boards) for the first chicane, just so you have more control going in and especially going out. You can always go slightly deeper as you get more comfortable. Second chicane 150m or just before is fine; the first kerb there is a bit more forgiving and it feels a bit more open to me. Rest per Stotty's advice. For the final chicane after the back straight I use the bridge as a marker, but brake just slightly before it; you can (carefully) trail into the first left, just be careful with inputs, as it is (for the likes of me) easy to oversteer. To play it safe, do all your braking in a straight line to get more control and a good exit.

I found I could use exactly the same brake markers in the wet, maybe because they are a bit conservative. Forget it is wet, just make more of an effort to stay clear of most kerbs, and you'll be fine. In the dry I was only about 0.5s in front of second; in the wet I was 3.5s in front.

And no adjustments to the car, other than the steering lock; 620 for the Lamborghini.

Yes, I think my brake marker for turn 1 is just before the 150.

Finally, I may be wrong, but I don't think you have to be first in all of these sessions, so don't be put off by these crazy quick times others are doing. If you are not first, I think you just get a lower rating, fewer cars to choose from for the first part of your career, and an 'easy' setting.

Yes, you can use the same brake markers in the wet if you use the stock wet set-up... you're carrying less speed out of the corner exits (due to a lot of traction control) and it's got quite a lot of downforce. To go quicker on this one you need to reduce both the TC and the wing settings... but the car does become a lot more sketchy like this

You're right, you don't have to be 1st... I only manged 2nd in the wet test (1.6s off the fastest time), but won the night test (with a faster lap than in the daylight ) and got gold overall. I think the AI times in the 2nd and 3rd tests are dependent on the time you set in the 1st test... go quickly in the 1st, and you get quicker AI times in the 2nd and 3rd tests.

BTW, oversteer when braking... might be brake release oversteer... the cars can slip in to oversteer if you're trail braking and release the brake pressure too quickly whilst turning. The stock brake gain doesn't help here as it's not progressive - it gives you lots of pressure in the early part of the pedal travel. So even slowly releasing the brake pedal doesn't give you much pressure reduction until very late in the pedal travel when releasing... resulting in a sudden reduction in brake pressure. I've found trail braking much better running more gain (currently at 3.0, but still experimenting) to get a more progressive pedal.

 

[John G]

The car is a bit wayward, you need to keep it under control. You also need to hit your brake points consistently. I found that the game often thought i was too slow in the first chicane which is difficult to get it right especially with the high kerbs that unsettle the car.
I used the default aggressive setups for each test and was on a 54 something i think. Also, the wet weather test is hard, the AI seem very quick in the wet but i found it very slippy especially if you touch any white lines.
I came first in the dry, last in the wet, first in the night, and got a gold.

 

[GopNet]

Well I'm not best either you can check it out by yourself

 

[SlowGrayAudi]

This is terrific stuff. Thank you

I didn’t think I could make any changes since it was driver testing so I used whatever the game gave me and I think it was the safe set up

One thing since the Lambo can oversteer on corner entry if you're too aggressive, try to keep just a little throttle on right as you're getting off the brakes and entering the corner. It loads up the rear tires a little and gives you some stability.

I mean just like 10-20% throttle. Just to shift the weight to the rear so it doesn't want to swing around on you

 

[Scaff]

I know I am not extremely skilled but I am at least average. Perhaps now, I’m being hit with a dose of reality that I’m not even average.

I cannot control the Lamborghini Super Trofeo.

For you who have already been through training, did you make any changes to the setup?

No set-up changes for me on this, keep in mind that you do not need to win or be the quickest. It's about control and consistency, something that becomes more important as you also have to use the same car for a wet and night session to finish off the young drivers program.

 

[Teggert205]

Think I got a 1.56,xxx in my second try at career, default agressive set-up apart from some tinkering with tyre pressures. But around 1.58 should have you beating, or atleast competing with the other young drivers.

At monza exit is way more important than corner entry, so just take it slow into the chicanes if you’re struggeling.

The super trofeo has less downforce than the gt3 counterparts.

 

[lancia delta hf]

I know I am not extremely skilled but I am at least average. Perhaps now, I’m being hit with a dose of reality that I’m not even average.

I cannot control the Lamborghini Super Trofeo.

For you who have already been through training, did you make any changes to the setup?

This was strange. I played the game at least a week before I started career, and I was having problems with the lambo.

 

[half_sourly]

I've found trail braking much better running more gain (currently at 3.0, but still experimenting)

Which setting do you mean? Is it the brake gamma?

 

[BigJimmy]

When I saw that the ST was the intro car for the career I though.. "Oh god please no!" as I bloody hated it in PCARs2. However I was pleasantly surprised that I could actually string together a few clean (but slow) laps.

Having said that I was glad I didn't have to do a whole championship in it.

 

[slthree]

When I saw that the ST was the intro car for the career I though.. "Oh god please no!" as I bloody hated it in PCARs2. However I was pleasantly surprised that I could actually string together a few clean (but slow) laps.

Having said that I was glad I didn't have to do a whole championship in it.

Indeed that car gave me nightmares in PC2 and I can't drive it fast without going off the road in this game.

I'm truly impressed by the guys who were posting great times with that squirrelly beast