How to drift with stiffer front springs?

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Well I was told that actually having front springs stiffer than the rear can actually help you drift. Now I tried to stiffen the front springs but I can't seem to hold the drift. :ouch:

So how do you drift with stiffer front springs is there some other tactic to tuning I do not know of yet?
 
I set my springs the same as what a coilover is for that car in real life. Then I set the compression and extension th suite.
 
Are you talking about FR, right? I hope so...

Actualy, 99,99% of my FR cars have stiffer springs on front than on back... and i counter effect it adjusting the rear dumpers, starting from 2/2 (bound and reb) always and going up until i find the right balance, witch rarely goes up than 6/6. And the diference between both bumpers never goes upper than 2. So if i need to increase the rear dumpers to 6/6, probably ill also raise the front to 4/4 or even 5/5.
Anti roll i mostly never use higher than 3, and most of times both (front and rear) stays at 2.

Not related, but your cambers must team up with the mix. It will must helps on the overstering balancing, grip at the corners (specialy when using CH) but cant force a regain of grip during in the middle of a feint manuever. If this happens, you did put too much angle on this camber, specialy the rear.

The spring stiffness is where start the tunning for drifting, thats where you start to destroy the car stability in a positive way. How hard they will be depends of the HP, weight, height (witch is also tricky to set properly), wheel base and axis distance, and finaly weight distribuition feeling.


Maybe im talking a lot of BS, but thats how i did learned how to find my finetune on most of cars. I mostly always follow this lineage and only change my direction when i see that im going to the wrong direction.
 
Actually every real drift car has a softer suspension in front because the car has more grip and is easier to slide around.
 
Actually every real drift car has a softer suspension in front because the car has more grip and is easier to slide around.

I don´t know what to say to you, mate. I was almost biting your argument, but then i jumped to the drift settings depot and then i realize that there is no static rule, even for FR´s. There i saw setups with both situations.

I do have something like 40 or 50 finetuned drift cars, barely all of them FR... and honestly i dont remember have issues following my formula...

Well, thats because im shy to provide setups into the settings depot, mostly because the setups i got from there i had to change something or another...
 
Actually every real drift car has a softer suspension in front because the car has more grip and is easier to slide around.

I'm pretty sure i seen the Team Orange Evo X has 12kg fronts and 8kg rears. HSD/DW CS2 coilovers are also sold with stiffer front springs aswell, and alot of drift cars use HSD/DW CS2.

Anyway, all my drift cars have stiffer front springs then the rears to combat the weight of the engine and giving the car a very balanced feel going, wether it being drifted, in a straight line or grip racing with stickier tyres on
 
:sly:it all depends on your style of drifting. i can drift my silvia with a crazy chamber, a normal one, and a positive one. you just need to adapt to it
 
The setup I mean is the basic one if you want to start with drifting. Fine tuned cars for the real professionals sometimes have really crazy setups.
 
What i do to my springs: just slam the ride, (mostly), increase the rear spring rate to 2.5 more then the front springs, and equally increasing it after that if needed. the rest i just keep the way they are. Maybe a bit of camber on the front, but max at 1.0 ... I never use any camber in the rear.
 
Gonales
What i do to my springs: just slam the ride, (mostly), increase the rear spring rate to 2.5 more then the front springs, and equally increasing it after that if needed. the rest i just keep the way they are. Maybe a bit of camber on the front, but max at 1.0 ... I never use any camber in the rear.

I use front camber 3.0 and rear 1.0 (mostly). And believe me, it really helps.
 
I use front camber 3.0 and rear 1.0 (mostly). And believe me, it really helps.

Depends on what you're looking for, i don't think your car is very stable in the rear is it? and this all just depends on the driver. No point in arguing tbh, everyone just prefers another setup...
 
Gonales
Depends on what you're looking for, i don't think your car is very stable in the rear is it? and this all just depends on the driver. No point in arguing tbh, everyone just prefers another setup...

It creates more grip so you have to fine tune it better, but with my rx7 i just put 7.4 spring rate and its perfect.
 
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