How to take it to the next level in GT7?

[Lightpilgrim]

On Dec 31st I started a thread as I was seeking for help on how to properly start GT7. I got a lot of help and found this community very mature and helpful. Since that time I dod progress a bit:

1. Have 51 Menu Books done
2. Achieved Collector Level 50
3. Have a couple of care from the invites (Aston, Ferrari, Pagani, Porsche and Lambo)
4. Took part in 3 online events and was 3 times on podium
5. Earned 70M mostly driving around Le Mans on a McLaren 750
6. Did get Gold in Monza Circuit Experience

Overall, I am glad this game exists! I see that it is helping me to sharpen my reflexes, deepens my passions for cars and also helps to understand how cars behave on a trace track. Also, you have this thrill of competing.

Now I want to take it to the next level and have some more questions that I have listed down. Thanks for all the help so far!

MORE QUESTIONS:

1. Why under the blue flags AI would not move aside and would rather battle for position?
2. Is there a reason to play the game on a higher level of difficulty? Tye reward system is not impacted by it.
3. Is there a wat to know somehow among the people competing who is using a steering wheel and who is on a controller?
4. Anything you have seen as a good guide, material as a reference point to set up a controller to be faster?
5. Can you be as fast on a controller as you are with the wheel?
6. What was your personal approach to learn the CE and get a Gold? What was your path and what helped you the most?
7. Is there any point to keep the line and breaking area assists or you are faster without?
8. I want to find a way to learn the breaking point and acceleration point and need some reference. When Inset a ghost, I really cannot see the breaking point. ny good way to learn it? I have a feeling that this will make me much faster…knowing where to break and how to accelerate off the corner
9. Is it possible to get a super license on controller and get MP4/4 for free?
10. I have so far participated in 2-3 online events and see that I have E and B in my profile. What should it be as a good level?

 

[newmedia_dev]

Re the ghosts set them further ahead so you can see where the are braking .3/4 is good and I don't reset sector position but I'd recommend it for you.

Why under the blue flags AI would not move aside and would rather battle for position?

They will move or give you space if you are patient. They are also allowed to unlap themselves but never try. This also relates to your next question about AI difficulty.

Is there a reason to play the game on a higher level of difficulty? Tye reward system is not impacted by it.

For the challenge, there will come a time after enough practice and improvement that the Easy AI is just not even close to competitive with you. Even Sophy isn't as solid as it was in the Beta.

Can you be as fast on a controller as you are with the wheel?

Yes. Just lots of practice with either and you can hit your natural ceiling regardless of controller type.

For me I'm faster 'now' with a wheel and just prefer the immersion as much as the pace.

What was your personal approach to learn the CE and get a Gold? What was your path and what helped you the most?

Practice, practice practice. Also stepping away to refocus. Also I used to watch the demos a lot. But the main thing is to not try hard on the first few attempts. Work up to it, I typically do a few sighting runs with the ghost to get familiar with the exercise.

Again off set the ghost so it's further in front.

Is there any point to keep the line and breaking area assists or you are faster without?

I'm faster without them on as I find the visual clutter distracting and breaks the immersion.

But they are personal preference so run what you feel comfortable with.

Note that the braking zone markers are very generous and as you up your pace you find yourself braking way deeper in to them or sometimes a little earlier for a different line or coasting instead of stop go approach. Bear in mind that when online they can be really distracting and you'll possibly be braking where people not using aren't and this can lead to small shunts (or larger ones!)

Even if you keep the markers on I would very much recommend that you learn some trackside markers as well. Again online with lots of cars close together seeing the braking markers can be hard to see in time.

I want to find a way to learn the breaking point and acceleration point and need some reference. When Inset a ghost, I really cannot see the breaking point. ny good way to learn it? I have a feeling that this will make me much faster…knowing where to break and how to accelerate off the corner

Tidgney posts regular lap guides and has a massive back catalog covering pretty much all the braking markers etc. just remember he is a World Series finalist so brake earlier than him!!!

Is it possible to get a super license on controller and get MP4/4 for free?

Yes.

I have so far participated in 2-3 online events and see that I have E and B in my profile. What should it be as a good level?

The majority of people can usually sit comfortably at a decent pace in C/S - B/S as these are the largest cohorts

Just for comparison here are my in game stats for my main accout

 

[skydragon49]

Dear Polish friend, your thread "how to propely start GT7" is indeed one of the most friendly corners in this forum. I'm glad I participate in it.

I'l try to answer your questions with short sentences, because there are too many topics to cover. 😅

1 - bad AI design. I wonder if Sophy on PS5 has a different approach to this. (I'm still on PS4, no Sophy for me)

2 - other than having a personal challenge, no. Talking more about challenges later on.

3 - in game I'd say no but I'm not 100% sure about it. You can take part in our thread "time trial discussion" and see what some of the fastest drivers on the board are doing and what equippment they are on.

4 - online time trials would be your best option. Tidgney (one of the fastest GT7 players) does several guides through the week, explaining how to take on the daily races and the time trials. On the time trials videos he plays with both wheel and the controller.

5 - that's a forever ongoing discussion. I know for a fact that in the time trial thread we have dozens and dozens of players who regularly place themselves amongst the top 1000 and top 100 spots and many of them are on controllers. So, yes it is possible, but the discussion is endless.

6 - watch the demonstration, and follow the ghost on your runs. Be able to analyze what you are doing different and adjust. Repeat. For the Tokyo tracks I used chase view so I could see how close to the walls I was. I'm on roof cam or cockpit view most of the time.

7 - I keep the line on. For me it's just another track reference but I don't follow it to the heart. It helps me judging if I'm too wide on corners for example.

8 - online time trials (again). That's the challenge that can really improve your driving. I'm a living proof of this. There are several youtubers who provide guides every week (remember Tidgney I mentioned before?) and their guides can be a valuable source of driving lessons.

9 - yes. I did it.

10 - can't be a judge of that, since sport mode is not something I do.

 

[imChris]

Glad you're enjoying your GT7 journey OP, I will try and answer some of your questions.

1. Why under the blue flags AI would not move aside and would rather battle for position?

Because the AI in this game is, let's say, not great

8. I want to find a way to learn the breaking point and acceleration point and need some reference. When Inset a ghost, I really cannot see the breaking point. ny good way to learn it? I have a feeling that this will make me much faster…knowing where to break and how to accelerate off the corner

It's difficult to learn the exact braking points from ghosts alone. I usually find my braking points through trial and error. But you can learn the acceleration points and how much speed to carry mid corner by closely watching the ghost. Or you can watch Tidgney's guides for specific Time Trials as @newmedia_dev pointed out

9. Is it possible to get a super license on controller and get MP4/4 for free?

Yes, just keep practising and working on improving and I believe you will get there!

 

[jlbmel]

Your DR rating will remain at E until you have completed 5 races. Then it will show your new rating. You need to improve your SR rating to S. I think you are capable of a DR B and SR S rating.

Edit: A low SR rating can drop your DR rating.

 

[newmedia_dev]

For CE I have a lot more practice but I did the miyabi one gold on my alt account after I got VR (previously done in bumper cam) I did the whole thing if you strip out the retries where I felt I could have got better gold sectors in about 7 mins.

This is how I follow the ghosts with an offset that keeps them in front of me for the duration of the sector/lap



Regarding the AI, this is AI hard in the weekly challenge event that was JGTC cars only

 

[MatskiMonk]

Regarding these two questions...

Can you be as fast on a controller as you are with the wheel?

Is it possible to get a super license on controller and get MP4/4 for free?

I use a wheel and still just bought the MP4/4. Wheels make the game feel more like driving, but they don't necessarily make you any faster, in some cases the opposite. Specifically drifting or driving in the wet for me - you can go lock to lock in the blink of an eye on the controller, and the game just sorts out how much lock to actually give, it's not as easy on a wheel - the fine control you do have with the wheel and pedals isn't matched in the game by the kind of fine feedback you would have in real life to make best use of them.

 

[Famine]

• Why under the blue flags AI would not move aside and would rather battle for position?

In reality (outside of F1) it's the lapping car's responsibility to get round safely, not the lapped car's to get out of the way.

However in GT7 they will move off the racing line (having the racing line enabled helps in this regard; you can see where they'll not be) if you get close enough. Often the closing speeds are too high to make a difference though.

• Is there a reason to play the game on a higher level of difficulty? Tye reward system is not impacted by it.

Not really.

• Is there a wat to know somehow among the people competing who is using a steering wheel and who is on a controller?

No.

• Anything you have seen as a good guide, material as a reference point to set up a controller to be faster?

This is purely personal preference.

• Can you be as fast on a controller as you are with the wheel?

In principle, yes. However there are few very high-level players on controller. There are some, but not many.

• What was your personal approach to learn the CE and get a Gold? What was your path and what helped you the most?

Just did it, really

If you can follow a racing line without needing it turned on, you should be fine to perservere and get them. Having ghosts enabled and set to at least +0.3s but not too far ahead will also help. Racing line and braking area assists will help get the muscle memory.

• Is there any point to keep the line and breaking area assists or you are faster without?

It doesn't really matter. Unless you're racing at night in a car with no lights...

• I want to find a way to learn the breaking point and acceleration point and need some reference. When Inset a ghost, I really cannot see the breaking point. ny good way to learn it? I have a feeling that this will make me much faster…knowing where to break and how to accelerate off the corner

Really the ghosts with a +0.3s/+0.4s offset is enough.

• Is it possible to get a super license on controller and get MP4/4 for free?

Yup. I did.

• I have so far participated in 2-3 online events and see that I have E and B in my profile. What should it be as a good level?

You'll be DR E until you finish your fifth race.

"Good" is relative, but you should aim to keep an SR S at all times. DR B is generally the middle ground - anyone with DR B should be able to keep up in that +3% zone (gold in time trials, CEs, Licences, Missions) and drive consistently.

 

[Lightpilgrim]

Impressive stats and thank you for taking time to answer my questions. My biggest challenge in life is time: I have many passions and responsibilities and it is impossible to be good at everything. It is the same for all of us.

My limits with GT7 so far based on what I see:
1. Very little experience in gaming overall and it is my first experience with GT7
2. Not able to dedicate more than 30-60 min daily. Weekends a bit more
3. I see that I loose concentration after 10 fast laps

Overall, I need to sit down, analyze all suggestions and work out my way of progressing based on skills and time I have.

I think I logically understand how to do things, but just can’t do it. Something is blocking me now. Maybe this is the lack of experience, as simple as that. Or lack of skills or both:-))

I am trying to do the TT challenge at Monza with F3500. Here are the two examples:

1. 1.28.3 - my fastest lap and I have line and break areas on
2. 1.29 - this is where I switched lines break areas off and tried to learn where to break by heart

I think I am 1 sec slower now without any visual indication. I see that I need to break around 100 m first chicane, 100 m second, two next corners 50 m mark, then it is 100 again and sector 5 it is around 50 mark.

But no way on Earth I know how to beat 1.28. Silver starts 1.27.1 - I would consider it a mega progress if I can do silver in the next 2 days before it ends.

Example 1
Example 2

 

[skydragon49]

I can't help you much because this is a TT I didn't start. Not my cup of tea.

But, are you following a ghost during your runs? Did you watch any online guide to see if there's something you're missing?

 

[newmedia_dev]

@Lightpilgrim For the replays can you turn on full race info?

At 45s in this replay I turn the full race info on if you aren't sure what mean, but could turn it on before the lap starts?



The problem is without it on we can't see your inputs or gear selection etc