HP Loss due to collisions?

[Pierced Lead]

I'm just wondering if the process of HP loss that occurs in our cars in the garage over time is because of/increased due to crashing into the walls or something. I have a Minolta (around 2000 km done) with the final stage Turbo (4 I think) that gives it 1200 HP, but when I go to the car's screen in the garage its 1199 HP, a 1000 HP power decrease, now I noticed I (and Bob) have hit the wall several times with this car, so is it possible that because of collisions we lose power in GT4?

The same goes with my rally cars. I constantly crash my rear into the boundaries of the track (so I don't lose as much speed and not get the penalty either) and I notice around 7-10 HP lost in just 30 KM done. But with my SLR (which has awesome performance), I've done 400 KM and I have so far lost only 1 or 2 HP at most.

Also, does this power loss actually cause the car to accelerate slower while racing?

 

[bin0]

Well, If they put enough detail in it it will.

 

[Prince.M5]

Is it??? No wonder that my M5 ''1320KM'' done had lost soo much power!!! Nearly 70HP decrease... I also had lots of crashes with that car on the Ring

 

[daan]

No, it is not. HP goes down due to mileage, and mileage alone. Changing oil will get some of it back, but if you've done enough miles, then you won't get all the power back.

 

[zed300]

Regular oil changes prolong engine life, same goes for the cars in GT

 

[Prince.M5]

No, it is not. HP goes down due to mileage, and mileage alone. Changing oil will get some of it back, but if you've done enough miles, then you won't get all the power back.

I changed my oil frequently but I lost that amount of power like instantly... I change my oil after every 100KM... or every hard run on the Ring...

 

[Famine]

I have a Minolta (around 2000 km done) with the final stage Turbo (4 I think) that gives it 1200 HP, but when I go to the car's screen in the garage its 1199 HP, a 1000 HP power decrease

That'd be a ONE hp decrease.

 

[senamic]

Regular oil changes prolong engine life, same goes for the cars in GT

Well written! But yeah, oil changes are only Cr.50 (from memory) and the benefit is well worth doing after every series or endurance race.

 

[Pierced Lead]

That'd be a ONE hp decrease.

Ouch, I guess that $99.99 technique really does work . I checked again and it was 1216 HP to 1046 HP = 171 HP decrease. (or maybe I mistook mileage for HP )

Ok, so power decreases with mileage, does it actually mean that the car will accelerate slower now?

 

[Scaff]

Ouch, I guess that $99.99 technique really does work . I checked again and it was 1216 HP to 1046 HP = 171 HP decrease. (or maybe I mistook mileage for HP )

Ok, so power decreases with mileage, does it actually mean that the car will accelerate slower now?

You have less power now so yes.


Scaff

 

[Ryanosaurous]

Power goes down because of mileage...
regular oil changes slow down how quickly the HP decreases, but there is no way to prevent it, only slow it down.
If you have no credit issues, buy a new one if it bothers you, but the power loss is so little that you will not be able to notice it...

 

[sanpanico]

There is a thread somewhere on these boards that has Kaz San commenting to the effect that while there is no physical damage to our vehicles, there is a decrease in HP, overall performance due to collisions. I will continue to try and locate the thread and post it here. My searches have come up with everything else but.

 

[Pierced Lead]

Power goes down because of mileage...
regular oil changes slow down how quickly the HP decreases, but there is no way to prevent it, only slow it down.
If you have no credit issues, buy a new one if it bothers you, but the power loss is so little that you will not be able to notice it...

That'll be a problem with the 4.5 million Cr. cars

 

[Open Addict]

Power goes down because of mileage...
regular oil changes slow down how quickly the HP decreases, but there is no way to prevent it, only slow it down.
If you have no credit issues, buy a new one if it bothers you, but the power loss is so little that you will not be able to notice it...

Or if you want another 88-CV you could just run El Capitan again and win another.

 

[Pierced Lead]

Yeah but what about the Speed 8 and R8 and Pescarolo?

 

[niky]

Save your game on a second card. Make a hell of a lot of cash... buy the car from your other card. The new copy will have the same mileage as the car did when it was new (if it was used, the odometer will go back to what it was when you bought it).

 

[Open Addict]

You win the Audi R8 for wining the 24hr Sarthe I Enduro. The other's you'll just have to save up for.

Edit: Although you must remember, if you are buying a car from another card, it will not be available in Arcade Mode, unless you already have it (bought/won) on that card.

 

[niky]

Here, I'm just buying cars off a copy of my original save so I have two cars. One which I've raced the life out of, and one that's "brand new".

 

[Pierced Lead]

Save your game on a second card. Make a hell of a lot of cash... buy the car from your other card. The new copy will have the same mileage as the car did when it was new (if it was used, the odometer will go back to what it was when you bought it).

Thanks, didn't think of doing that

 

[niky]

One unfortunate side-effect of buying the car off yourself is... you can't keep the mags you have on it. It'll revert to stock. Which is a pain if, like me, you scour the wheel shop for weeks looking for that one set of mags you really, really like... and cycle another few weeks to buy the same set for racing tires... and then for snow tires... and then...

 

[Honda Power]

I didn't know that even if you change your oil regulary... after a lot of miles you can't get the power back. In that situation... what can you do? Replace you car for another one?

 

[Rotary Junkie]

Pretty much.


Also, changing the oil regularly doesn't actually decrease the rate of power dropoff.

Approximately 800 miles is where you will first actually lose power (1hp) no matter how vigilant you've been about oil changes or not. (Also, the power spike from an oil change starts wearing off somewhere after 100 miles but will come back if you change the oil)

 

[Pierced Lead]

Ok, so as a last question, to what extent do we keep losing HP? All the way down to 1?

 

[Rotary Junkie]

IIRC it stops at just under 10% loss.

 

[senamic]

IIRC it stops at just under 10% loss.

That is correct. Don't worry too much about the loss, you only get affected badly in endurance racing and long series (which you should use near-new cars for anyway).

 

[SRinc.]

Ouch, I guess that $99.99 technique really does work . I checked again and it was 1216 HP to 1046 HP = 171 HP decrease. (or maybe I mistook mileage for HP )

Ok, so power decreases with mileage, does it actually mean that the car will accelerate slower now?

yes inturn less hp means slower acceleration. take it like this you have a 500 hp 4wd car and a 450 hp car, same specs weight and set-up and you run the two on the 0-400m, the car with 500 hp would have a quicker take off cause it has more hp. so yea people change your oil immediately if you notice a drop in hp. I have that issue with a GT-R. every time i take it out and run it for a few miles it loses one hp the oil change and it gets that single hp back.