Hybrid Toyota Supra wins Tokachi 24 hrs

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Toyota can now lay claim to having fielded the first hybrid vehicle to win an endurance race. The Denso SARD Supra HV-R won the Tokachi 24-hour race in convincing fashion, finishing 19 laps up on the second place car for a total of 616. The hybridized Super GT-spec Supra took the pole, lead all day, and opened up a significant gap in the final hours of the competition. It also had the fastest lap of the event. Powered by a 4,4480cc 3UZ-FE V8 augmented with a regenerative braking system, in-wheel electric motors in front, and a larger single electric motor for the rear wheels, the Supra HV-R was the sole GT-class entrant in this year's race. With reports saying that a production version of the FT-HS concept is on the way, we should be able to get a taste of what a streetable hybrid sports car is like in due time. In the meantime, Toyota has gone out and shown what a motorsports-prepared hybrid is capable of.

[Source: SARD]

About the Car:
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The Supra HV-R is a hybrid whose Super GT-spec 4,480cc V8 is augmented with regenerative braking, a pair of 10kW in-wheel motors up front and a 150kW motor in the rear (it is a 4WD). The engine's output is rated at 480 horsepower and 376 lb-ft of torque, and the car's weight will come in at a little over 2,300 pounds/1045kg.
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Very interesting. Can't wait to see such technology in Formula 1!
 
Well,i think Toyota is leading the way of hybrid racing.Its not going to F1 soon,but it would be better if Toyota go ahead with their hybrid project in NASCAR first (NASCAR seems to be the most polluted motorsport in the world)
 
Finally Toyota's hybrid program pays off, I've waited so long for this! :cheers:

Beautiful Supra as well, so sad to not see them in the Super GT anymore...
 
wow, thats incredible. I agree with you bram turismo about the supra, but At least it managed to not only race again, but it also served a vital purpose as well.
 
Well i can't exactly prove it but here it goes.... :rolleyes:

from Wikipedia

Environmental impact

Fuel consumption

According to NASCAR, about 6,000 US gallons of fuel are consumed during a typical NEXTEL Cup weekend. [11] For the 2006 season, which includes 36 points races, the total for the season would be 216,000 US gallons. One environmental critic recently estimated NASCAR's total fuel consumption across all series at 2 million US gallons (7.57 million liters) of gas for one season; [12] however, the methodology used has been a point of dispute.

At race speeds, NEXTEL Cup cars get 2 to 5 miles per gallon.Consumption under caution can be estimated at 14-18 mpg, based on comparable engines generally available to the public. Interestingly, the rate of fuel consumption tends to be the same regardless of the actual speeds of the cars, as teams change gear ratios for each race to ensure that the engine always operates in its optimum power band; however, the fuel mileage will vary for each race, depending on the maximum speeds attained.

Emissions and pollution

The consumption figures above provide no insight on environmental impact in terms of emissions. NASCAR vehicles are generally unregulated by the EPA, and in particular, they have no mufflers, catalytic converters or other emissions control devices. However, some local short tracks which run under NASCAR sanction require certain emissions control devices. Many short tracks run mufflers in compliance with noise ordinances at some tracks; in the early years of the Craftsman Truck Series, some races were held at venues which required mufflers, a requirement still used in some Busch East, AutoZone West, and Whelen Modified races.

Use of lead additives in gasoline

NASCAR continued to use lead additives in its race gasoline until the 2007 Auto Club 500 at California Speedway on February 25,[16] which led to concerns about the health of those exposed to the fumes of the cars (fans and residents living near the race tracks). Lead is a well-known environmental risk, but the performance needs of race engines (in particular, the high compression ratios) once made it difficult to switch to unleaded fuel.

In the US, the commercial use of leaded fuel has been phased out since the early 1970's, when catalytic converters were required to be installed on new cars, making unleaded fuel a requirement (leaded fuel will destroy a catalytic converter). The sale of leaded fuel has been mostly banned in the US since 1996, but exemptions exist for auto racing, as well as aircraft, farm and marine equipment.

NASCAR eventually took steps to eliminate the need for leaded fuels. In 1998, NASCAR and then-fuel supplier Tosco (Now ConocoPhilips, the company who produces the 76 Fuel) conducted an unsuccessful test of unleaded fuel in selected Busch Series races. In July 2006, in the first in a four-week test run of unleaded fuel, the first race since 1998 to run unleaded gasoline, known as Sunoco 260 GT Plus, the same fuel used in road races, was held during a Busch race at the Gateway International Raceway in Madison, Illinois. The testing in July 2006 was successful with no suspected engine failures or malfunctions from the new fuel. In October 2006, NASCAR stated its intention to transition to unleaded fuel in all three top series (Craftsman, Busch and Nextel Cup) in 2007, with the exception of the Daytona 500.

During the first race in which unleaded fuel was used, there were a number of engine failures during the race, leading many to believe that the unleaded fuel is to be blamed. The drivers who encountered failures include Dale Earnhardt, Jr. and Martin Truex Jr. of Dale Earnhardt, Inc. and Kasey Kahne of Evernham Motorsports. The engine failures of both Earnhardt and Truex were attributed in part to the lack of a lead additive, but also to centrifugal force causing improper distribution of oil between the left and right sides of the engine. Evernham Motorsports has not disclosed the reason behind Kahne's engine failure.

(sorry if it looked like i copy the whole line :nervous: )
It was this or Truck Racing,but i have no proof about that either.
 
Actually... Doesn't seem much like an impressive achievement. Note this line:

The Article
"the Supra HV-R was the sole GT-class entrant in this year's race."

So I assume by the 16-lap lead, that their chasers were of a lower class. So it's more of a we-proved-hybrid-reliability-and-that-it-still-wins-over-slower-cars. Kinda.
 
I read that article and it seems slighty inaccurate because I saw pictures of GT Porsches and Bmws as well.
 
Those cars were more like GT2-class cars, while a SuperGT Supra is GT500, approximately equivalent to GT1.

I'd compare it's laptimes to that of, say, the GT500 SC430 at the same track this year.
 
That's awsome! I'm glad hybrids are starting to do well.


Even though I'm not a big body kit guy, I think that racing body (including headlights) would look sexy on a regular Supra
 
Those cars were more like GT2-class cars, while a SuperGT Supra is GT500, approximately equivalent to GT1.

I'd compare it's laptimes to that of, say, the GT500 SC430 at the same track this year.

Exactly - it's not a fair comparison. In fact, according to Wikipedia, SuperGT cars are even faster than FIA-spec GT1 cars - a few years ago, a test was run with a Maserati MC12, and it lost a second per lap on the SuperGT cars.
 
So what! Toyota even bothers to go hybrid in races, what does everybody else do? Yes, some use bio-ethanol but Le Mans? What up with this Diesel thing, they still use like what...90 litres every 2 hours or something? Gather the fuel used by a single R10 and you'd be surprised how long it keeps your average Golf running...
 
I don't get it.Would a SuperGT car be faster than a FIA GT1 car?Thats got to be something special.I know the Super GT series has the least amount of car restrictors in any racing series.So maybe thats why they are much faster.Maybe a comparison with a Maserati MC12 is not good enough,maybe a Saleen S7 or a Corvette should have an interesting results.But to think of it,how would these Super GT cars perform in Le Mans?Should be good to see the japanese to run in Le Mans again.....
 
I'll tell you, they'd be up for a GTS class win! Don't let the outside fool you, watch one of their races at Fuji and you'll notice that those things go like stink through the corners, they hardly weigh above 1100 kg, and that with nearly 500 hp underneath the bonnet...
 
Their biggest advantage lies on the outside - aerodynamics. FIA GT1 cars have, at times, up to 600HP. And weigh around 1200KG - so in that department, the classes are close. Thing is, the ACO wouldn't let them race at Le Mans in the first place, because they're have far more advanced aerodynamics. Like comparing a Super Aguri SA07 with a Ferrari F2007, only with the roles reversed.

I'm all for hybrid racers - just don't boast about exhilarating performance when the opposition was only from a lower class.
 
Those cars were more like GT2-class cars, while a SuperGT Supra is GT500, approximately equivalent to GT1.
You had a point, especially as upon closer inspection, I see that some of the Porsches are non other then modified Cup cars and Old GT spec 911 GT3 R variants from 02-03. I saw that there were some old M3s(don't know why these still race). I'm not sure about this particular BMW though:
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I've never seen it before.
 
That's a tuned-up Z4. Knowing that car, it's probably GT2-spec or lower, too.

Actually, I think Hybrids are actually outlawed in many series, including F1. Panoz used to have their Q9, but they pursued the GT1 category with the GTR-1 instead. and a hybrid could be nothing more thatn regenerative brakes and a capacitor, that dumps the power into the traction motors coming off corners, giving it a jump ahead as the competition's turbos are spooling or their engines just come onto cam. I don't think actual hybrid racers are a whole lot more fuel efficient or better for the environment. Just quicker off the corners.
 
Well,i think Toyota is leading the way of hybrid racing.Its not going to F1 soon,but it would be better if Toyota go ahead with their hybrid project in NASCAR first (NASCAR seems to be the most polluted motorsport in the world)


And NHRA belching out gallons upon gallons of nitromethane idling around waiting for the tree to go off is cleaner?


On topic, that's a hybrid I'd drive. It's a FUN hybrid. Also, AWD is win. Not fond of Supras, but when they are turned into a 400HP hybrid racecar that's competitive is just sweet..
 
The car sure looks good alright and congrats for Toyota to achieve that:tup:. You can say one thing about Toyota, those things are solid lol
 
You had a point, especially as upon closer inspection, I see that some of the Porsches are non other then modified Cup cars and Old GT spec 911 GT3 R variants from 02-03. I saw that there were some old M3s(don't know why these still race). I'm not sure about this particular BMW though:
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I've never seen it before.

Can't help but notice the car....
Its the Team Petronas Z4 M Coupe. Link
It is competing in the Super Taikyu Endurance Series as well as other Endurance races. (don't exactly know this car.....)
 
didn't know there was a thread so this is something i put together on another forum earlier!


For those of you that are in to motorsport (not nascar), might have heard or read about Toyota's outright victory in this year Tokachi 24hour Enduro. The car has been praised for being the first hybrid win in an international motorsport event. It even beat the second place car by 19 laps (wow)! The car is the "Toyota Team Sard Supra HV-R".

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At first when i read about the event, i was pleased and felt that toyota had achieved a great victory platform.....Which it is!

But later on as i did more research down the road i realized that the tokachi race is part of the Super Taikyu championship in japan. Here is the pic that raised my eyebrow!
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Now Super Taikyu uses Fia Group N rules for competition and the fastest class: ST-1 consists of vehicles like this:

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Now by just comparing the Supra to the Bimmer and Porsche you can see a world of difference.
The main being the power to weight ratio!

The HV-R Supra uses the 480hp SuperGT GT500 winning 3UZ-FE V8 and has 2 electric motors in the front wheels and a 3rd electric motor on the rear axle powering the rears wheels. Yes its AWD! The resulting HP IS 708.9 HP!
Race Engine Technology magazine actually Awarded this set up "2007 Race engine of the year"

So really, this is a 708.9 hp vehicle weighting in at under 2300 lbs racing cars that really are under a GT3 class designation!

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So POWER/WEIGHT RATIO IS = 3.24<<

The second place finisher: Petronas BMW Z4
Power is had from a 3246 cc i6 with 12.5: 1 CR
396 PS at 8200rpm / Weight is 2750 lbs
with the conversion chart
POWER/WEIGHT RATIO IS = 6.94<<<<<


THAT'S A BIG DIFFERENCE! in reality thats like David losing to Goliath because Goliath had an M16 to go with the muscle!

It took me a good while but im still trying to decode the japanese on the Super Taikyu or Tokachi websites to compare the pole/fastest lap between the cars.
 

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