Hyundai Ioniq 5N is Coming to Gran Turismo 7’s Next Update

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"The majority regret getting EVs"
I'm loving my little Mii electric, for the record. (Caveat: As a second car. Another: Instead of getting cold on a motorbike.) Range issues are a real and present threat at all times if you actually want to get places, but I do 40 miles a day, so it's fine.
Yes, I agree for people who don't do a lot of mileage EVs could be a good choice. As you said, certainly better than getting cold on a bike.
They are smooth and quiet which is a plus.

For people who do a lot of mileage per year (like myself) they're just not the solution. Unless many years down the line, they can dramatically accelerate the charge times and make sure there are charging points at every petrol station.
 
(Caveat: As a second car. Another: Instead of getting cold on a motorbike.) Range issues are a real and present threat at all times if you actually want to get places, but I do 40 miles a day, so it's fine.
I think the best vehicle at the moment is a PHEV that has a range of about 40-50 miles electric but they are few and far between for a 3-row. We got a 3-row Hyundai Santa Fe Hybrid and when it is purely on electric it is wonderful. The engine cutting in is very gentle but it is definitely nicer round town when purely in EV mode. Engine is okay though and there is no range anxiety.

From the people I have spoken to, the majority regret getting EVs. I don't think the whole going electric thing has fully taken off as many manufacturers thought it would. The vast majority of cars on the road are still petrol, diesel or hybrids.
I'm really after an EV right now but I agree with you it could not be my only vehicle. EVs are good as second cars or for those people who never go anywhere. My personal vehicle is a lifted 4x4 Sprinter adventure van. It's a fun vehicle and a perfectly acceptable back up vehicle to our family Santa Fe with one exception. Living in a city, the van will not fit in parking structures so that's a pain. Consequently, I'm actively looking for a smaller EV only vehicle for blasting around the city. The new Kia EV3 looks sweet but won't be in the US until 2026. Considering the 2025 Hyundai Kona as well as that is cheaper.

What I really want is the 2025 Ionic 5, but that won't be generally available until mid next year and they are also more car than I really need - but I do love the look.

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Yes!!! I knew it was coming, and I'm glad it's soon. The I5N is changing the game when it comes to the EV market.

Sadly its an ev so i am not intrested, hopefully there is some other cars in the same update

I don’t understand how they don’t have the data that players don’t give a damn about EVs. They know we don’t drive them.

Not interested. Another heavy car (over 2200 kilograms) that has a corner behaviour like a bunch of stones.

We still want new cars. But EVs aren't cars, they are appliances. An electric Hyundai is about as exciting as getting a new fridge.

EVs need to be banned from racing games. They all are so bland and boring to drive in a video game setting. I think the only series that could pull EVs off would be Ridge Racer.

From the people I have spoken to, the majority regret getting EVs.

I just thought it would be fun to quote all the responses from people who clearly have no idea what they're talking about. Nearly every professional car reviewer that has gotten their hands on the 5N loves it. It is well balanced, turns in like crazy, feels much lighter than it is, and the "gears" everyone thought was going to be a gimmick turned out to be so good that it has become a game changer in the EV world, with many cars set to follow suit. Gear selection allows for the same reference points as any ICE car, unique power bands, crazy accurate clutch modulation, and an all around fun time. The more conventional "gearless" mode is faster, but the gears are where it's at.

There is no doubt in my mind that the gear mode will be the primary way this thing is presented, and I even doubt it will have the normal "single gear" mode included. I also think that N-grin boost (dumb name, I know) will be toggled to the overtake button.


"EVs need to be banned from games", yet I have fun in the Model 3 and Taycan pretty often.

"Nobody likes their EVs", yet the Model Y is one of the best selling cars in the world.

"Behavior like a bunch of stones", yet the TG crew, Chris Harris, and a ton of other good-driving blokes say the opposite. I think I'll stick with their opinion over someone on a forum who doesn't know anything about the car except their own bias.

"As exciting as a new fridge"... you must have one HELL of a fridge.


C'mon guys, you can do better than proving how commonplace anti-intellectualism is these days.
 
I think the best vehicle at the moment is a PHEV that has a range of about 40-50 miles electric but they are few and far between for a 3-row. We got a 3-row Hyundai Santa Fe Hybrid and when it is purely on electric it is wonderful. The engine cutting in is very gentle but it is definitely nicer round town when purely in EV mode. Engine is okay though and there is no range anxiety.


I'm really after an EV right now but I agree with you it could not be my only vehicle. EVs are go as second cars for for those people who ever go anywhere. My personal vehicle is a lifted 4x4 Sprinter adventure van. It's a fun vehicle and a perfectly acceptable back up vehicle to our family Santa Fe with one exception. Leaving in a city the van will not fit in parking structures so that's a pain. Conversely, I'm actively looking for a smaller EV only vehicle for blasting around the city. The new Kia EV3 looks sweet but won't be in the US until 2026. Considering the 2025 Hyundai Kona as well as that is cheaper.

What I really want is the 2025 Ionic 5, but that won't be generally available until mid next year and they are also more car than I really need - but I do love the look.
Hybrids are definitely the sweet spot in terms of actually being green, too. At least if we're talking people who frequently buy new cars. The greenest option is usually to keep what you already have and run it into the ground. Probably depends a lot on your annual mileage.


I think, mechanically, the "facelift" Ioniq 5 just has the larger capacity battery from the 5N, now containing 8.5% more angry pixies. It's the same physical design, just better capacity per "pouch" - I think the real reason they developed it was for the higher power requirement in N spec (and it's newer chemistry that fabs are moving to anyway).

I would personally avoid the Kona / Niro myself if I were cross-shopping them.
 
From the people I have spoken to, the majority regret getting EVs. I don't think the whole going electric thing has fully taken off as many manufacturers thought it would. The vast majority of cars on the road are still petrol, diesel or hybrids.
I’m still baffled why noone (except BMW) invest in and talk more about Prometheus Fuels. Much more promising than a future EV world.
 
Hybrids are definitely the sweet spot in terms of actually being green, too. At least if we're talking people who frequently buy new cars. The greenest option is usually to keep what you already have and run it into the ground. Probably depends a lot on your annual mileage.


I think, mechanically, the "facelift" Ioniq 5 just has the larger capacity battery from the 5N, now containing 8.5% more angry pixies. It's the same physical design, just better capacity per "pouch" - I think the real reason they developed it was for the higher power requirement in N spec (and it's newer chemistry that fabs are moving to anyway).

I would personally avoid the Kona / Niro myself if I were cross-shopping them.
The mid-refresh 4 benefits from improved interior along with the battery and Tesla charge plug for NA market models. Having real buttons for seat HVAC controls, rear wiper and black bezel/ICE equivalent to our Santa Fe would be enough reason to wait for the refreshed model.
From the people I have spoken to, the majority regret getting EVs. I don't think the whole going electric thing has fully taken off as many manufacturers thought it would. The vast majority of cars on the road are still petrol, diesel or hybrids.
Cost and scaleability come to mind.
 
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Yes!!! I knew it was coming, and I'm glad it's soon. The I5N is changing the game when it comes to the EV market.













I just thought it would be fun to quote all the responses from people who clearly have no idea what they're talking about. Nearly every professional car reviewer that has gotten their hands on the 5N loves it. It is well balanced, turns in like crazy, feels much lighter than it is, and the "gears" everyone thought was going to be a gimmick turned out to be so good that it has become a game changer in the EV world, with many cars set to follow suit. Gear selection allows for the same reference points as any ICE car, unique power bands, crazy accurate clutch modulation, and an all around fun time. The more conventional "gearless" mode is faster, but the gears are where it's at.

There is no doubt in my mind that the gear mode will be the primary way this thing is presented, and I even doubt it will have the normal "single gear" mode included. I also think that N-grin boost (dumb name, I know) will be toggled to the overtake button.


"EVs need to be banned from games", yet I have fun in the Model 3 and Taycan pretty often.

"Nobody likes their EVs", yet the Model Y is one of the best selling cars in the world.

"Behavior like a bunch of stones", yet the TG crew, Chris Harris, and a ton of other good-driving blokes say the opposite. I think I'll stick with their opinion over someone on a forum who doesn't know anything about the car except their own bias.

"As exciting as a new fridge"... you must have one HELL of a fridge.


C'mon guys, you can do better than proving how commonplace anti-intellectualism is these days.
I will always find ev boring, cant stand them even less so in racing games,
This is my opinion, there is just nothing that excites me about them,

I will always prefer ice.


But if you like them i wont stand in the way of that.

I know i cant get just what i want.
 
Using an EV in the game is the same as players using AT. If a player isn’t manually changing gears with a controller or gear lever, it’s the same. Of course the sound is a major factor, but cars been sounding like EVs from Gran Turismo through GT Sport. :sly:

Anyway, many players like speed. Performance variant EVs are pretty quick and most are 4WD. Just point and hold down the X button or pull the trigger or stand on the accelerator. That pretty much covers a car for gaming.
 
Yes!!! I knew it was coming, and I'm glad it's soon. The I5N is changing the game when it comes to the EV market.













I just thought it would be fun to quote all the responses from people who clearly have no idea what they're talking about. Nearly every professional car reviewer that has gotten their hands on the 5N loves it. It is well balanced, turns in like crazy, feels much lighter than it is, and the "gears" everyone thought was going to be a gimmick turned out to be so good that it has become a game changer in the EV world, with many cars set to follow suit. Gear selection allows for the same reference points as any ICE car, unique power bands, crazy accurate clutch modulation, and an all around fun time. The more conventional "gearless" mode is faster, but the gears are where it's at.

There is no doubt in my mind that the gear mode will be the primary way this thing is presented, and I even doubt it will have the normal "single gear" mode included. I also think that N-grin boost (dumb name, I know) will be toggled to the overtake button.


"EVs need to be banned from games", yet I have fun in the Model 3 and Taycan pretty often.

"Nobody likes their EVs", yet the Model Y is one of the best selling cars in the world.

"Behavior like a bunch of stones", yet the TG crew, Chris Harris, and a ton of other good-driving blokes say the opposite. I think I'll stick with their opinion over someone on a forum who doesn't know anything about the car except their own bias.

"As exciting as a new fridge"... you must have one HELL of a fridge.


C'mon guys, you can do better than proving how commonplace anti-intellectualism is these days.
No soul.
 
Kaz mentioned Pikes Peak. Not that means anything but..
Hmm, that is true.
Kazunori Yamauchi, Gran Turismo Series Producer
"We are pleased to release the IONIQ 5 N to Gran Turismo 7. The Hyundai N brand has made a lot of achievements in actual motorsport this year, including at Pikes Peak, the Nurburgring 24-hour race TCR class victory, the TCR World Tour champion, and the WRC drivers title, and we look forward to future collaborations between Gran Turismo and Hyundai in the Esport sector."
Now, we could brush it off as nothing, or we can put this quote on the detective corkboard with all the pins and red string and say that this, plus the last 23 years of evidence, points to Pikes Peak being added... in the future.
I don't know, TCR was mentioned twice, there'll probably be a TCR car added first.
 
Hmm, that is true.

Now, we could brush it off as nothing, or we can put this quote on the detective corkboard with all the pins and red string and say that this, plus the last 23 years of evidence, points to Pikes Peak being added... in the future.
I don't know, TCR was mentioned twice, there'll probably be a TCR car added first.
Yeah, I can see the TCR i30N on the roster.(though the Elantra N TCR has done big things. Especially winning the TCR Australia Championship twice in a row). We got the Mazda3(both road and race versions) as part of the collaboration with PD&GT7.
The initial GR.4 G70 and GR.3 Genesis Concept cars were added as entries after the partnership.

Bring it.
 
Polyphony Digital tend to not do December updates at least I think so. So I was genuinely surprised when some mentioned a December update. We’ll see. I wouldn’t say no to one. 😅
 
The IONIQ 5N is by no means an ordinary EV so seeing people up in arms about it is weird. I'm REALLY excited to try it out after everything I've seen and heard from various sources across the internet.
It makes no difference. The Gran Turismo experience is crippled by EVs. There are almost no upgrades to experiment, no oil changes and no swaps. With an ICE you usually get three exhaust options in addition to stock. Irreversible engine upgrades giving players an incentive to collect multiple examples of the same car. Multiple forced induction options. I could go on. All these things also affect the sound in various ways.

EVs are like iPads on wheels. Maybe it’s convenient in real life, but we don’t play GT7 to enjoy the everyday practicalities of car ownership.

What’s worse, PD is also feeding the EV hype by adding them. The in-game description for the 911 Turbo S even flirts with the idea that the 992 might be the last ICE-powered 911. It’s almost like PD is tapping into the green agenda. For what reason? It’s not like my Playstation is leaving a smaller carbon footprint whenever another EV gets added.

Polyphony Digital tend to not do December updates at least I think so. So I was genuinely surprised when some mentioned a December update. We’ll see. I wouldn’t say no to one. 😅



 
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Goodness, to live in the belief that PD must be pushing the green agenda simply because they decided to add another EV to the game (given this franchise is all about presenting automotive culture/history) rather than accept that people w/ a different outlook might actually enjoy wanting to try it in the game.
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Polyphony Digital tend to not do December updates at least I think so. So I was genuinely surprised when some mentioned a December update. We’ll see. I wouldn’t say no to one. 😅
Yeah, plus we already got 8 updates, just like last year.
 
It makes no difference. The Gran Turismo experience is crippled by EVs. There are almost no upgrades to experiment, no oil changes and no swaps. With an ICE you usually get three exhaust options in addition to stock. Irreversible engine upgrades giving players an incentive to collect multiple examples of the same car. Multiple forced induction options. I could go on. All these things also affect the sound in various ways.
It affects your GT experience by an almost unfeasibly small amount, you are not everyone. Personally I looking forward to giving it a go (but not as much as I am looking forward to giving it a go in ACE).
EVs are like iPads on wheels. Maybe it’s convenient in real life, but we don’t play GT7 to enjoy the everyday practicalities of car ownership.
I get it, you don't like EV's, but making up stuff like the above doesn't help your case.

Just out of interest will you be equally upset if the add the N74 concept?
What’s worse, PD is also feeding the EV hype by adding them.
Oh no (I mean your just making up nonsense now, but you do you).
 
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When I first saw the Ioniq 5 N in person I thought it was an i30 N sized car but upon closer inspection its a small SUV and that fascinated me. Driving the Ioniq 5 N should be fun in GT7. (hopefully)
 
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I think if there is one EV that should be a blast to drive it should be this one.
If i see replies like "no soul" then you may get surprised by it,
I surely haven't driven it, but there are a lot of people with some real car knowlage and track experience that dit and almost all are amazed, should be agile, balanced and very fun to drive.

I understand the shin-kicking comments about EV's in game, indeed all are 4WD and power understeer in oblivian ,and have the wrong sound...or no sound...or washingmachine sound.
They kind of seem to have fixed it with this one if we may believe some.

I personally can't wait for that timetrial with it :) , and if i hate it, plenty of others in the garage :lol:
 
No December update? But what if the real December update is the song PD played at their HQ?
Let's not forget that we should have 'My First Gran Turismo' in Dec, and that may well be what's taking the place of a Dec update.
 
Dorfl in Feet of Clay
This Is Fundamentally True

I Suggest You Take Me And Smash Me And Grind The Bits Into Fragments And Pound The Fragments Into Powder And Mill Them Again To The Finest Dust There Can Be, And I Believe You Will Not Find A Single Atom Of Life.

However, In Order To Test This Fully, One Of You Must Volunteer To Undergo The Same Process.

Wherein "soul" means "stuff I like".
 

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