I Have A Question About The GT40.

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With Ford you never know. They will probably attempt a LeMans entrence, it would be a good showing, however the engine would have to be drastically changed.
 
car is aerodynamically out of date. and it makes little marketing sense to produce it for racing today. it'll probably be sold to vintage racers
 
Originally posted by Talentless
car is aerodynamically out of date. and it makes little marketing sense to produce it for racing today. it'll probably be sold to vintage racers

The car is *not* out of date. This would be akin to saying the Ferrari Dino is not fit for street use. Replace the steel for aluminum, iron for aluminum, add airbags, power steering, lose the carbs, and you'd probably have another "perfect" Ferrari.

This is just what Ford is trying to do. As to whether they'll actually find a market for the GT40 is another (long) discussion altogether (and it's something we've covered just last month). For the record, I don't think it will go far. Ford will produce it for LM, along with the necessary street versions for homologation purposes, but that would probably be it. It will be Ford's CLK-GTR. An excellent car, out of context with the rest of their cars, owned by very few, driven by even less.
 
Hool, please read what you quote. I said aerodynamically. That may be incorrect, as I admit it to only being an uneducated suspicion, but whether or not the car has airbags is beside the point. I never meant to imply that the car is totaly obsolete.

Is there a second CLK? I thought Mercedes made that?
 
FORD said they didnt have to prove anything with the gt40, when it comes to racing (its a legend)
but i think it might be in production....
i also saw this small pic somewhere in the beginning of car & driver, for got which issue but they had a gt40 for sale only FOR $15,000!!!!!!
 
Originally posted by 1mic
FORD said they didnt have to prove anything with the gt40, when it comes to racing... (its a legend)
so this means that theres no chance that they'll put the GT40 in any race series, hence the car doesnt have to prove anything :)
 
Originally posted by 1mic

so this means that theres no chance that they'll put the GT40 in any race series, hence the car doesnt have to prove anything :)

Er...why would they build the GT40 for production if they weren't going to race it in Le Mans?
 
To sell a supercar. Sales. Period. Same reason the PTCruser is a hit now. They want to capitalize on a good thing of retro.

Plus the GT40 kicks ass today, just like it did back then. The new one just looks sick. (as in good)
 
Originally posted by Talentless
Hool, please read what you quote. I said aerodynamically. That may be incorrect, as I admit it to only being an uneducated suspicion, but whether or not the car has airbags is beside the point. I never meant to imply that the car is totaly obsolete.

I didn't think you meant the whole car, either. Aerodynamically, the car is quite good. There have been many advances in downforce and diffusion, but that doesn't mean the Mustang will be equipped with a F1-style spoiler anytime soon. The GT40's LM-quality curves and spoilage is as good on the track then as it is on the street now. And it wouldn't be too bad on the track, either.

Is there a second CLK? I thought Mercedes made that?

What I meant was that the GT40 is the analog of Mercedes' CLK-GTR. Both would have low production, extremely high cost, and be rarely driven. Yes, there was only one CLK-GTR. :)
 
I see, sorry. Just that I disagreed with your contesting what seemed to be a statement I had not made. Perhaps you were not doing that. I do not know. Ah well.
 
i remember reading that Ford was comfortable with ~$100,000.00 for the new GT40 as the price. If it does go into production, at the very least i think we should see it in ALMS. Who knows, it might even kick some ass 😈
 
I wonder how much it costs to make. If the Viper is profitable at $80K, a $100K GT40 might be tempting to the company.

As for a Le Mans or other major race entry, that's tough. I think you have to wonder how much Ford has to win or lose. The car is already a Le Mans winner and proved that a Ford could beat Ferrari, back when not too many really expected that to happen.

If Ford would use the GT40 in high profile races now, it'd have to throw a lot of money and effort into it, because the last thing the company want is for their image car to get spanked. So it might just decide to stick to the safer claim that it's race history is well proven, etc etc.

But that's just me taking wild guesses at what the corporate folk over there might be thinking. So, who knows?
 
Originally posted by Hooligan
What I meant was that the GT40 is the analog of Mercedes' CLK-GTR. Both would have low production, extremely high cost, and be rarely driven. Yes, there was only one CLK-GTR. :)

No, Mercedes sold at least ten of the road-going CLK-GTRs, for $1m each. Oh, and clutchless-upshifts would be a gearbox rebuild every 6000 miles.
 
Originally posted by Sertsa
I wonder how much it costs to make. If the Viper is profitable at $80K, a $100K GT40 might be tempting to the company.

As for a Le Mans or other major race entry, that's tough. I think you have to wonder how much Ford has to win or lose. The car is already a Le Mans winner and proved that a Ford could beat Ferrari, back when not too many really expected that to happen.

If Ford would use the GT40 in high profile races now, it'd have to throw a lot of money and effort into it, because the last thing the company want is for their image car to get spanked. So it might just decide to stick to the safer claim that it's race history is well proven, etc etc.

But that's just me taking wild guesses at what the corporate folk over there might be thinking. So, who knows?

Oh, it's so unlikely that the car would ever be raced in ALMS. The Audis would destroy it. You can't compare a car which is the copy of a 1960s design with a car like the R8 that was designed in a windtunnel for racing. Maybe it could compete in Grand-Am, but in ALMS? No way! Just completely the wrong shape. Even a McLaren F1 would get it's arse kicked in ALMS.
 
Originally posted by GilesGuthrie
No, Mercedes sold at least ten of the road-going CLK-GTRs, for $1m each. Oh, and clutchless-upshifts would be a gearbox rebuild every 6000 miles.

I'm sorry. Is this the thread where everyone takes things literally? I wasn't checking.... ;)

Yes, I *know* there were 25 CLK-GTR's made. What I (and someone else, if you remember) was referring to was one *manufacturer* of the CLK-GTR.
 
Originally posted by GilesGuthrie


Oh, it's so unlikely that the car would ever be raced in ALMS. The Audis would destroy it. You can't compare a car which is the copy of a 1960s design with a car like the R8 that was designed in a windtunnel for racing. Maybe it could compete in Grand-Am, but in ALMS? No way! Just completely the wrong shape. Even a McLaren F1 would get it's arse kicked in ALMS.


ehhh?? How can YOU compare a LMP with a GT class car? that doesn't make any sense to me :P But pit the GT40 up against vipers etc... and you will have a very nice race. no?
 
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