I need help identifying an engine problem!

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So, here's the situation.

I have this 1971 Opel Kadett with its mighty 1.1 push rod engine that doesn't want to idle, only on the choke at high rpm and it does it with flames in the carburetor and out of the exhaust. As it had been sitting in a barn for a good 30 years, the first thing that came to mind was of course the carburetor. Rebuild it, didn't help. Replaced it. Didn't help. 3rd time's a charm? Nope, same issue. No basic idle at all. Replaced the fuel pump. Sprayed brake cleaner onto the intake to see if a gasket has failed. Nope.
Ruled out the fuel side of the story, on to the ignition part.

Checked the timing, correct. Points new, spark plugs new. Good strong spark, points gap correct. Swapped the distributor, cap, rotor, coil, plug wires. Still the problem persists.

Checked the compression. Perfectly equal and high on all 4 cylinders. Checked the valve clearance, way too tight, small euphoric moment, but no difference with the gaps set to factory.

The only thing I can still think of is that the cam shaft is one tooth off, and yet, the timing cover doesn't look like it has been removed at all. But, and here's a big butt. When I used a spanner on the crankshaft pulley to turn the engine, I was able to tighten the bolt quite a bit. Now, these things usually don't come loose by themselves.

The owner swears he has driven the car around his property, and is fairly confident that it was without the choke. However, his previous mechanic did like to screw him over, I have learned. Front brakes should have been new. They weren't. The spark plugs were so over tightened that I had to use a breaker bar to get them loose. The ignition wiring in the distributor wasn't seated properly. The valves had no clearance at all, and the list goes on.

If anyone has a crazy idea, or sees anything I've missed. Do share because I'm losing too many hours on this car and me and the owner are getting a bit desperate.
 
You said you checked the intake for a gasket leak but have you checked vacuum lines and connections? Backfiring and no idle sounds like a vacum leak and water is cheap.
 
You said you checked the intake for a gasket leak but have you checked vacuum lines and connections? Backfiring and no idle sounds like a vacum leak and water is cheap.
It has 2 vacuum lines, on for the distributor and the other goes back to the filter housing. New hoses fitted.
 
It has 2 vacuum lines, on for the distributor and the other goes back to the filter housing. New hoses fitted.
Have you followed through with cam timing at all? Choppy/no idle certainly but I don't know that I'd expect backfiring at WOT.

Maybe it's not a leak but an issue with vacuum advance separate from the idle problem and it's just not leaning out at WOT. I don't know that I'd expect backfiring at the carb but the rich mix could get you flames through the exhaust.
 
Removed the valve cover to check the valve rockers' movement, removed the plugs to see the tdc of the pistons. All seems correct.

Everything on the outside of the engine has been replaced with parts coming from a good running engine.

For me, that leaves only the timing chain system as a culprit. Perhaps it jumped a tooth because of old age, or it's just stretched. I'll probably open it up coming Wednesday, and hopefully I see something obvious there.
 
Good luck. I've never been so bold as to attempt getting something running after decades at rest.
 
Good luck. I've never been so bold as to attempt getting something running after decades at rest.
I've done it many times, and with old cars if something isn't working, it is always something easy and obvious as they're as simple as a car can be.

Until this one arrived.
 
Get it "running" let engine get warm then try spraying starter fluid on outside of the carb as it sounds like you might have a leaky gasket on the cab. I'm also guessing it has a older carb. My 69 Opel GT I got rid of the stock carb and went with a Webber carb, also my engine is the 1900 with high compression piston. If the engine idle picks up it's in your carb, you might also want to check to make sure the choke is not stuck. The float might also be stuck letting it get way too much fuel. Jets in carb might also have dirt on it not allowing it to control fuel input.
 
Flames out carby and exhaust, bad idle, sounds like no power. IMHO it sounds like the spark plug leads are swapped over on two cylinders. You need to search for a repair manual to check firing order.

Secondly, IF the front pulley was loose the timing will not be set properly. You need to check for correct TDC (Top Dead Centre). More on that IF the firing order is correct.
 
So, removing the intake, gasket was ok. Removed the timing cover. Timing was ok. Build everything back, and just to see if it helped at all, I fired. Still poop.

Back to square one. I remove the carburettor. Taking out all the jets and nozzles and what not. Carb cleaner, blasts of air, all seems well.

Grab the other carburettor just for the heck of it.

I'm comparing the 2 and ehm. Different base plates. One is a 30mm valve, the other 35. I take both off, and the isolator gaskets are correct for the plates, holes all line up, but not to the carb housing itself.

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I do a baseplate + isolator swap.



I suspect that the previous mechanic had already swapped those, as both carburettors had signs of screwdriver usage on the various parts.
 
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