If the Matrix were real.

Which path would you choose?

  • Sypher's path

    Votes: 4 18.2%
  • Neo's path

    Votes: 18 81.8%

  • Total voters
    22
To answer this question you would of had to seen the Matrix.

If the Matrix were real what path would you choose if you were told you were chosen to save humanity from the slavery of the robots?

would you choose sypher's (sp) path, of choosing to be put back into the matrix with out knowing what he just went through?

or

would you choose neo's path? He chose to stay out of the Matrix to fight for humanity against all odds.
 
Neo, taking risks is always fun, and i'd rather not be a robot's battery.

:thumbsup: Good poll, BTW. :thumbsup:
 
Originally posted by GCstyle
Neo, taking risks is always fun, and i'd rather not be a robot's battery.

:thumbsup: Good poll, BTW. :thumbsup:

Thanks GC.

For me it is tempting both ways. But i would probably choose Neo's way too.
 
Well, to be a battery would be being nothing ... essentially. What's the point of laying in ooze and 'dreaming' your existance?

I'd rather be Neo. You can't have that kind of an experience in what you know to be 'reality' anyway. It's a big adventure.

And besides, Sypher probably would have just been killed by the computers as soon as they picked him up. It's the way of the evil you know ...

~LoudMusic
 
And! The ship (Nebakanezzer (sp?)) had enough computer power to generate a 'mini-Matrix' for you. If you wanted to jump in and drive a McLaren without worrying about smashing it up and potentially hurting yourself, go right ahead. It wouldn't take much to write safety protocals into the thing. Look at the Holodeck on StarTrek. Basically the same thing ...

~LoudMusic
 
Originally posted by The White Tornado
If the Matrix were real....


I'd be one badd-a** mofo, going gung-ho on everyone with my kung-fu and bullet catching abilities.


Neo's path all the way baby! But being morpheus would be cooler :cool:
 
:P
Originally posted by LoudMusic
Well, to be a battery would be being nothing ... essentially. What's the point of laying in ooze and 'dreaming' your existance?

I'd rather be Neo. You can't have that kind of an experience in what you know to be 'reality' anyway. It's a big adventure.

And besides, Sypher probably would have just been killed by the computers as soon as they picked him up. It's the way of the evil you know ...

~LoudMusic

I would take Neo's path also. :P
 
Originally posted by LoudMusic
And! The ship (Nebakanezzer (sp?)) had enough computer power to generate a 'mini-Matrix' for you. If you wanted to jump in and drive a McLaren without worrying about smashing it up and potentially hurting yourself, go right ahead. It wouldn't take much to write safety protocals into the thing. Look at the Holodeck on StarTrek. Basically the same thing ...

~LoudMusic

Actually, you could get hurt in the "mini-Matrix". You just wouldn't get hurt as bad, as when Neo fell from the skyscraper, but he did have a broken tooth when they unstrapped him. Just saying. :D

:cheeburga
 
Originally posted by The White Tornado
To answer this question you would of had to seen the Matrix.

If the Matrix were real what path would you choose if you were told you were chosen to save humanity from the slavery of the robots?


To take part in this poll, one would have to believe that the matrix is JUST a movie, that it is Hollywood's best! Are you so certain that it isn't real? That the matrix doesn't exist? And if so, how do you know? :eek:
 
Originally posted by Pako


To take part in this poll, one would have to believe that the matrix is JUST a movie, that it is Hollywood's best! Are you so certain that it isn't real? That the matrix doesn't exist? And if so, how do you know? :eek:
Because Keanu Reeves was in it. Therefore you'd have to believe that his English accent in Bram Stoker's Dracula was real to - and it clearly wasn't!! Ergo, no accent - no Matrix!! :)
 
Originally posted by axletramp

Because Keanu Reeves was in it. Therefore you'd have to believe that his English accent in Bram Stoker's Dracula was real to - and it clearly wasn't!! Ergo, no accent - no Matrix!! :)

:lol: So, yeah I see you point...;) That is of course if you believe that Keanu Reeves is real.... :P
 
Hey, Thanks BP and Pako.

I'm glad I got some good responses. :)

I'm suprised that no one would choose Sypher's path at all.

I mean, when you get back into the Matrix you will have forgoten about it. And you would be rich (because Sypher made the deal that if he got Morpheus he would be rich and famous in the Matrix).

I guess it's better to be the hero rather than the weasle. :D

did you guys take into account, that you wouldn't know the results of your path until you crossed them? Meaning, if you choose Neo's path, you wouldn't know if it would be a success or not. You won't know the future, when you choose your path.
 
I'd go with Neo's path, I have an overactive sense of Justice anyway ;)
Plus I don't think I'd like to even entertain the though of being covered in slime again :)
 
right. time for a "piesupreme meaningful post"™


lets say that you take the red pill. you wake up, and you see that your entire life would be just a dream. A DREAM. but this dream, it seemed to be so real, as though you could do anything you would in real life. would you really want to lose your entire life to a place where it's always cold, you learn the truth about your dream, and the fact that what once was the reigning species on earth has fallen to something that we created? i would.

the average human always wants to learn more about the world around him, whether it's real or not. if you had the chance to save the human race, would you? i mean, we created AI, they became more powerful than us, so why should we take over from the dominant species, if i can call it that. then, think about the prospect of us taking over another world. that's one less civilisation in thw universe that we took over. not one point would anyone think about how THEY felt. all they're trying to do is procreate, just like us. now think about if WE were the machines, and the machines were us. would it be alright then? no. it wouldn't.

now imagine that we take the blue pill. you go back to your normal life, and completely forget the encounter with morpheus. would you care about the fact that you had the chance to save the earth, but didn't? no, of course you wouldn't. you wouldn't even know that you had the chance. it's like telling someone something that they did yesterday, but they can't remember what happened. they get confused, and deny everything. after this, god knows what would happen, but it would send the person into a confusion status, which no-one likes.

but think about the possibilities of what would happen if you took the blue pill. if you were in neo's shoes. it would mean that the machines will almost always rule outside the matrix, and simply because of taking the blue pill, human beings will stay int he matrix, possibly forever. also, put in your mind this fact: maybe we're in the real world now supposedly in the matrix, and taking the red pill would mean us going into the true matrix?

for example, you take the red pill. you go through the gateway into the other realm, and end up in a bowl of pink liquid. but this is not the real world, this is the matrix. we were living in the real world all along. now would that be weird?

also, something to note. if you were sat in that chair, where neo is downloading all those programs into his head, after this has finished, wouldn't you want to go back into the matrix, just like you were before, but with all this information stored in your head? like, you learned al the different martial arts, learned everything aboutt he matrix, but forgot the fact that there is a matrix? now wouldn't that be cool?

another interesting point. what would have happened if neo walked out of the door when morpheus offered the pill? this would still have the same effect as taking the blue pill, but he would remember everything that happened that night.

and that's how i would want ti to be. i would want to knwo i'm in the matrix, but i'd like to stay there, because of the horrific sight i wouild see if i left the matrix and learned the real truth. also, if morpheus had told me about the stuff i could do in the matrix whilst i was plugged into it, then i would simply learn all the stuff i neede to know (there is no spoon, you think that's air you're breathing, etc.), and continue to live my life whilst in the matrix.

another alternative that i would like would be to get unplugged from the matrix, then get plugged in somewhere that the machines could not find me. then, i owuld be free from control of the machines, yet i owuld have the knowledge of the matrix and what it is, and learn about the ways i oculd manipulate the matrix without being caught by the machines. that would be perfect.

anywho, i respect the way cypher chose to go back into the matrix. i mean, you've been disconnected form your lovely world, and now you see this horrible place full of machines, with very little human civilisation left. what would you prefer?

there are so many different options open for this question, so i had to whittle it down to this. and i know every word from the film, i used to watch it like it was the bible. it was a revolutionary film, which i thought had a much deeper meaning than the general public knew.

thankyou andy and larry, for opening this up to me.
 
Originally posted by piesupreme
right. time for a "piesupreme meaningful post"™


lets say that you take the red pill. you wake up, and you see that your entire life would be just a dream. A DREAM. but this dream, it seemed to be so real, as though you could do anything you would in real life. would you really want to lose your entire life to a place where it's always cold, you learn the truth about your dream, and the fact that what once was the reigning species on earth has fallen to something that we created? i would.

the average human always wants to learn more about the world around him, whether it's real or not. if you had the chance to save the human race, would you? i mean, we created AI, they became more powerful than us, so why should we take over from the dominant species, if i can call it that. then, think about the prospect of us taking over another world. that's one less civilisation in thw universe that we took over. not one point would anyone think about how THEY felt. all they're trying to do is procreate, just like us. now think about if WE were the machines, and the machines were us. would it be alright then? no. it wouldn't.

now imagine that we take the blue pill. you go back to your normal life, and completely forget the encounter with morpheus. would you care about the fact that you had the chance to save the earth, but didn't? no, of course you wouldn't. you wouldn't even know that you had the chance. it's like telling someone something that they did yesterday, but they can't remember what happened. they get confused, and deny everything. after this, god knows what would happen, but it would send the person into a confusion status, which no-one likes.

but think about the possibilities of what would happen if you took the blue pill. if you were in neo's shoes. it would mean that the machines will almost always rule outside the matrix, and simply because of taking the blue pill, human beings will stay int he matrix, possibly forever. also, put in your mind this fact: maybe we're in the real world now supposedly in the matrix, and taking the red pill would mean us going into the true matrix?

for example, you take the red pill. you go through the gateway into the other realm, and end up in a bowl of pink liquid. but this is not the real world, this is the matrix. we were living in the real world all along. now would that be weird?

also, something to note. if you were sat in that chair, where neo is downloading all those programs into his head, after this has finished, wouldn't you want to go back into the matrix, just like you were before, but with all this information stored in your head? like, you learned al the different martial arts, learned everything aboutt he matrix, but forgot the fact that there is a matrix? now wouldn't that be cool?

another interesting point. what would have happened if neo walked out of the door when morpheus offered the pill? this would still have the same effect as taking the blue pill, but he would remember everything that happened that night.

and that's how i would want ti to be. i would want to knwo i'm in the matrix, but i'd like to stay there, because of the horrific sight i wouild see if i left the matrix and learned the real truth. also, if morpheus had told me about the stuff i could do in the matrix whilst i was plugged into it, then i would simply learn all the stuff i neede to know (there is no spoon, you think that's air you're breathing, etc.), and continue to live my life whilst in the matrix.

another alternative that i would like would be to get unplugged from the matrix, then get plugged in somewhere that the machines could not find me. then, i owuld be free from control of the machines, yet i owuld have the knowledge of the matrix and what it is, and learn about the ways i oculd manipulate the matrix without being caught by the machines. that would be perfect.

anywho, i respect the way cypher chose to go back into the matrix. i mean, you've been disconnected form your lovely world, and now you see this horrible place full of machines, with very little human civilisation left. what would you prefer?

there are so many different options open for this question, so i had to whittle it down to this. and i know every word from the film, i used to watch it like it was the bible. it was a revolutionary film, which i thought had a much deeper meaning than the general public knew.

thankyou andy and larry, for opening this up to me.
out of wind yet?
 
I've said it before, and I'll say it again, I hate the matrix because the basic idea behind the whole movie doesn't make sense. There is simply no reason for the robots to keep the humans alive and create this whole fake world thing.

If I were in the movie I would become a consultant for the robots and recommend to them that they kill all the humans, or at least ask them why the hell they are keeping them alive? justfor fun?

-retsmah
 
Originally posted by retsmah
I've said it before, and I'll say it again, I hate the matrix because the basic idea behind the whole movie doesn't make sense. There is simply no reason for the robots to keep the humans alive and create this whole fake world thing.

If I were in the movie I would become a consultant for the robots and recommend to them that they kill all the humans, or at least ask them why the hell they are keeping them alive? justfor fun?

-retsmah

Looks like someone didn't understand the movie! :P

See, the robots kept them alive because they were sucking the life energy from them. So, obviously, you need to have, well, life! So they would put you in a dream world to basically distract you while they slowly take your life energy.
 
Originally posted by retsmah
or at least ask them why the hell they are keeping them alive? justfor fun?

-retsmah



If they killed all of the humans, there would go their source of energy to stay alive down the drain. They harnessed the electricity produced from humans, and used it for themselves. If they killed everyone, then there would be millions of useless bodies laying around. Don't you remember, humans were like a giant battery?
 
Originally posted by retsmah
I've said it before, and I'll say it again, I hate the matrix because the basic idea behind the whole movie doesn't make sense. There is simply no reason for the robots to keep the humans alive and create this whole fake world thing.

If I were in the movie I would become a consultant for the robots and recommend to them that they kill all the humans, or at least ask them why the hell they are keeping them alive? justfor fun?

-retsmah

Since they nuked the planet, the earth was in nuclear winter, killing the sunlight. Since human beings create tons of energy in various forms, it was logical for them to use us as an alternate power source until the dust clears.
Electric eels might have worked in a pinch though ;)
 
I paid attention to the movie, but then I took that one step futher and actually thought about it.

Yeah, use humans as an energy source, that sounds resonable. But what are the humans using as an energy source? A human is NOT a giant battery, its a giant waste of energy. You have to put a lot of energy into a human just to keep it alive, and not much energy would come out of it. Its a basic physics thing, you cant create energy. A human does not create energy, it just takes in a lot, and then puts a little bit out as actual usable energy and the rest out as heat.

Basicly, if the sun is blocked out nothing can survive on earth (except maye for crazy geothermal bacteria). Not even robots. Their best bet would be to leave the planet. Without the sun there is no more energy going into the earth, and all the energy on earth eventually converts to heat energy, and everything stops.

-retsmah
 
retsmah, you evidently didn't look into it close enough.

when morpheus is telling neo about the world that they live in now (just before he flips the duracell out), there's a short scene where there's the baby in a tub, and it's filling up with pink liquid.

he described here how they liquify the dead to feed the living. most people get confused here, thinking that the liquify the dead and what is left of them becomes the pink liquid. but no, when they die, they liquify them and feed them to the living.

but i don't understand how they started the matrix. they must've had loads of dead people.

it's a neverending circle.

human produces power. mchines use power. machines liquify dead. dead get fed to humans. etcetera.
 
Originally posted by piesupreme
retsmah, you evidently didn't look into it close enough.

when morpheus is telling neo about the world that they live in now (just before he flips the duracell out), there's a short scene where there's the baby in a tub, and it's filling up with pink liquid.

he described here how they liquify the dead to feed the living. most people get confused here, thinking that the liquify the dead and what is left of them becomes the pink liquid. but no, when they die, they liquify them and feed them to the living.

but i don't understand how they started the matrix. they must've had loads of dead people.

it's a neverending circle.

human produces power. mchines use power. machines liquify dead. dead get fed to humans. etcetera.

Indeed. Improbably, implausible, but a clever concept...
 
Originally posted by piesupreme

human produces power. mchines use power. machines liquify dead. dead get fed to humans. etcetera.

it is also impossible. You try to keep a million humans alive only feeding the each other. you will run out of humans very quickly. one thing that this cycle doesnt address is that all machines, such as humans and these robots, waste energy. the matrix they are suggesting donig something similar to hooking up an electric generator to an electric motor, putting a little energy into it to get it started and then have it run forever.

The problem i have with the matrix is that most people say it is cool because it could really be happening. my question is why would it ever happen? it doesnt make sense :P.

-retsmah
 
Originally posted by retsmah


The problem i have with the matrix is that most people say it is cool because it could really be happening. my question is why would it ever happen? it doesnt make sense :P.

-retsmah

Obviously, you didnt pay attention to the movie :P :D :D
 
Retsmith is right ... the whole idea of taking energy from humans is just dumb. The only reason why they would, is to make a good plot for a story.

Ok, you're a very complex robot AI. You've just kicked the crap out of the second strongest power on the planet ... but your source of energy is being inhibited by a thick cloud of radioactive matter. What do you do?

Do you:

Excert all your saved energy (which there probably isn't much of, seeing as how you were dependant on the Sun in the first place and not a natural resource) to create a complex system that farms humans for their HEAT energy and power a very large simulator that creates an entire city?

Or:

Get the hell off the damn planet? Keeping in mind that there is no air in space, which is required to cool computers.

Or:

Do you start by putting a solar collector in orbit around the Earth that sends regular shipments of battery pods to Earth where they are used to power the process of ... taking what's left of the human race and create a cyborg race to rule the Universe with?

Ladies and gentlemen, I give you the Borg!



I have two points to make here.

  • Using humans for power is dumb. It takes more energy to 'fuel them' and power the complex system that takes care of them than the amount of power they output. I see no possible way to make it efficient enough for the cycle to support itself.
  • IT'S A FREAKING MOVIE!!! SCI-FI TO BOOT!!! DROP IT!!!


~LoudMusic
 
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