I'm new to Drifting, I need advice!

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BoomStick71
Hey guys thanks in advance to any and all who reply.

First off, I use a controller to drift.


Are there any tips you can give me to help me learn the basics. I have a 200 and change HP nearly stock Silvia I'm learning with.

Corner entry tips? Speeds, gears ect...?
How to prevent over correcting?

Anything else that may help me.

Thats it for now, I'll ask more when I get back home.

Thanks again.

- Boom
 
comfort hards,


Then drive around the track for a while. Forget about drifting. Just learn to control the car with those tires. Drifting will come naturally with those settings. Soon you'll feel the need for more power.
 
comfort hards,


Then drive around the track for a while. Forget about drifting. Just learn to control the car with those tires. Drifting will come naturally with those settings. Soon you'll feel the need for more power.

Thanks for the tip.
I installed the comfort hards. Now when I enter the corner, it breaks loose. One of two things happen.
1- I slide to a stop.
2- if I try and enter it faster to prevent stoping, I slide of the track.

Keep in mind. I'm just driving. I'm not trying to break loose. I'm letting the car do it, I'm just trying to keep it going when it does.
 
Oi! Greets from a fellow drift newbie. ;)

I've found some degree of success with a Silvia with the racing mod. The *only* thing I did was put the racing mod on it; haven't played with the suspension, camber, toe, gear ratios; nothing.

I'm practicing on Tsukuba; I'm initiating the drift with e-brake. Not nearly cool enough yet to initiate with other methods yet. Heh.

I've found that so far, it's a balancing act between moderating the throttle / moderating the counter-steer.

I find that for every two or three laps, I get one *really* beautiful, photo quality drift. Which I then take a picture of, of course. ;D

Keep at it, brotha. :)
 
I'll have to say that the Silvia (i'm assuming you're talking about the S13) is really not the most noob friendly drift car. It requires quite a bit of knowledge with weight shifting due to it's tendency to understeer. You really need to know how to force it to pitch sideways.

I would recommend buying a FD RX-7 and just drive it stock. Make sure to slap on comfort Hards. The car is really happy to go sideways and it's easy to control as well.

I spent 3 days with the Silvia... and while I did see some progress, all that progress was multiplied 3 Fold when I hopped in to the RX-7. Good luck
 
I'll have to say that the Silvia (i'm assuming you're talking about the S13) is really not the most noob friendly drift car. It requires quite a bit of knowledge with weight shifting due to it's tendency to understeer. You really need to know how to force it to pitch sideways.

I would recommend buying a FD RX-7 and just drive it stock. Make sure to slap on comfort Hards. The car is really happy to go sideways and it's easy to control as well.

I spent 3 days with the Silvia... and while I did see some progress, all that progress was multiplied 3 Fold when I hopped in to the RX-7. Good luck
I'll try this one too. The more cars I try, then most likely I'll find one that likes me.
 
hello mate, listen. i began learning to drift with a sylvia because i heard that it is one of the best drift cars. but unfortunatly i had a lot of trubles handling the car, then i switched to fully tuned rx-7 which made me think i will never learn drifting.

Few weeks ago, thanks to gtplanet, i read that the sprinter trueno is the best car to learn on. all you have to do is an oil change and comfort hard tires.

luckily i found it in my used car dealership the next day. and that was a turning point for me.

try the car and you will be good in few days.

then, you can shift to a little bit more power car, something like the toyota sport ft-86 and later you can jump to your sylvia.

if you don't have the car PM me and i will send you mine, becuase i currently drifting with a nissan 2seater and a sylvia s13

sorry for talking too much :sly: but i want to help you like someone helped me weeks ago and now i can't tell you how much i am having fun.

regards,
Rabih
 
Copying from another thread of mine, 1st thing I want to say is there is no 100% correct car to use its all about feel and learning the car.

Don't do 4wd 1st of all, I don't want to cause flame wars, but just don't things will be better off in the end if you avoid it. :S

I personally say get an FC rx7, with abouts..220hp, (I say this is a possible car since omeone I know whos not to much into drift enjoyed this car at my palce when sideways, but again there is no perfect car.) put an LSD in and its simply a matter of learning car control, drifting is about balance, largely between the throttle and steering input, I recommend sticking with 1 car and 1 track, since learning a bunch of different tracks and cars will just make it harder for you.

There is NO car that will just work and be a holy moment of drifting perfection. Think about this, You are trying to learn 3 things.
1) How to drift 2) How the car feels and behaves 3) the track. Now does it not make sense to lower your workload? Pick a single track..I personally say Tsukuba since most of the corners are similar but there are a couple to mix things up, and you can drift laps..rather then going back and forth on Suzuka. The car This part I cannot stress enough pick 1 car and 1 car only, so many people I see hopping from car to car and it does NOTHING to assist in learning, find a single car you like and stick with it, there are 2 main types of cars small nimble cars, easy to get sideways usually but easier to get to much angle or overcorrect and snapback, and larger more sluggish cars harder to get sideways but easier to maintain it sideways (providing it has appropriate power.) since the steering isn't so quick to react in these cars its generally harder to get snapback or get to much angle. So you get those 2 things..you learn the track layout and surface and you learn how your car behaves when cornering that leaves you with only 1 thing to focus on learning, drifting. See the logic?

As for the actually drifting its a matter of approach a corner at a speed you would normally go at it for gripping. (Or you can as I call it walk to the corner by going at a speed your comfortable at and let the car roll up.) At that point give the handbrake a tap..just for like...1/4 a second if that and turn in at the same time, (There are other techniques to get sideways but this is one of the most predictable.) at this point the tail will swing out and give it gas to throw it out more. At this point you do what I call "catching" the drift where you let the rear slide as much as your comfortable and then apply countersteer, I use the term catching the drift cause when you get the steering right the car will hold the angle suddenly if you get the countersteer correct. the last step is through the corner start feathering the gas gently, not to much to spin it. but enough to not get grip in the rear again.

That's basically it, but in the end no amount of reading can prep you, it just takes alot of practice to get it down correctly, don't give it and keep going at it, if you get frustrated take a break and come back in 10 or so min.

Some stuff that's more exact to your problems you states

Speed: I covered above
Gear: usually the same gear as you would take when gripping, if you notice RPM dropping downshift 1 gear. (this is what I call bogging down, the engine simply does not have the torque to keep the wheels spinning)
How to prevent overcorrecting: experience..there is really near no way you can get a fool proof way to do this, its just all in learning how it feels when you get it right.

For your 1st complaint about the comfort hards..do you have driver aids off? The only causes for the car coming to a stop are this. 1) you have driver aids on, 2) you are getting sideways and not giving it gas, you need to give throttle to drift. 3) you are getting to much angle. In the 3rd case I refer to it as a stall, there is just way to much angle and workload for the engine and again it will bog down.
 
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I would say get the lsd set all the settings to 60 , drive normally then when exiting a corner power over this is the easiest way then when you get more confident try pulling the handbrake of the entrance to corners , other than that practice is the best option.
 
Thanks for the tip.
I installed the comfort hards. Now when I enter the corner, it breaks loose. One of two things happen.
1- I slide to a stop.
2- if I try and enter it faster to prevent stoping, I slide of the track.

Keep in mind. I'm just driving. I'm not trying to break loose. I'm letting the car do it, I'm just trying to keep it going when it does.

Keep practicing man! I know it's frustrating but if you control the throttle you should be able to drive around the track. Eventually you'll be able to start to get the tail out a bit and recover without spinning.

I know it's tempting to switch to other tires, but when you get halfway decent and want to make that next step you'll have to switch to comfort hards anyway and re-learn everything. Trust me you're better off this way.
 
Good advice here it seems, thanks, I have a question though for drifters with Fanatec wheels, do you add any (DRI) , (DAM) or (SPR) when you drift? Currently my settnig are (DRI) +2 that I use for normal racing.
 
:( i am still using a controller :(
So am I. I'm still hammering away at this drifting thing.

I managed to find the Sprinter. Man its like driving in syrup. But like you guys said, its easy to handle. But I find it hard to keep its speed and momentum up when its sideways.
 
I started in GT5p. Actually did not get around to drifting in GT5.

I remember that my first drifts were 400 points and I found that great. Quite a few months later I ended up over 15000 points, which is no where near the end.

To advance the Ss on Eiger are interesting. Once you start to go through these without stopping to drift, you know your on the right way.

You need to practice a lot, so that you get the feeling right, that does take time.

Stick to a circuit for a while, you will learn the speed and steering points, always try to drift a bit and then expand it.

Stopping and going off the track are part of the learning process.

Stopping: a bit more entry speed, less of an angle to the line, more power
going off the track: a bit slower, less power, better steering

Good luck

P.S.: always drifted with a controller, got in trouble with the steering wheel, it is too noisy.
 
I would say get the lsd set all the settings to 60 , drive normally then when exiting a corner power over this is the easiest way then when you get more confident try pulling the handbrake of the entrance to corners , other than that practice is the best option.

Someone is using a controller......
 
The basics with drift are counter-steering, corner entrance and throttle control
There are no tricks for it, but rather lots of train

Try to enter a corner with low speed and unbalance the back of the car, either by turning and using the e-braking, or doing a "flick" (turn out and turn in). When the weight shifts and car is unbalanced, the throttle control + counter steering are the things to be worked. Dont fully press the throttle, but approach this technique by the opposite direction. Use just a bit to perform a powerslide, then some more etc etc.
 
im going to try turning my tuner Silvia S15 (full modsfrom the tune shop and aero kits without race mods.. i have a RM car as well.. also fully modded) into a drift car.. but ive never set one up before... any good tips? i would try tweaking it myself but i dont want to destroy the handling balance of the car
 
Anyone play around with the higher HP D1 cars?

I've been having some fun with the ER34 D1 Spec '04 from the UCD

Thing is crazy, it honestly gets sideways with 10% throttle
 
Damn right but its still helpful ;)
Thats what I thought...

I couldn't imaging playing Gt without a controller. Been doin it since GT 2. And I never even thought of trying to drift. Powerslide yes. Drift No...

And my drifting is still an issue...
Using the AE86 S.S I enter the turn, car slides, I control it to some degree. But it ALWAYS bogs, OR Wipes OUT, or Slides of the track Or I drive it into the inside wall...

Im having a hard time finding a happy place with the throttle.

(Note) I never try and E-Brake to get the car to slide, it does this by itself. Can be at the apex or just after... I can never finish the slide without disaster...
 
I personally suggest beginners avoid relying on the handbrake and primarily focus on the braking drift. If you figure out entries first it'll make learning the rest significantly easier.

I've typed up extensive explanations of the braking drift several times in the forums, if you can't find one of them I'll dig one up for you. Maybe we should start gathering info like this into a sticky?

Anyone play around with the higher HP D1 cars?

I've been having some fun with the ER34 D1 Spec '04 from the UCD

Thing is crazy, it honestly gets sideways with 10% throttle

The BP Falken was one of my favorites in GT4, haven't had it pop up for me yet in 5. Actually...I think it, the Amuse Street S2K, and maybe the Sil80 were the only cars I really had much luck at all drifting in GT4.
 
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